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Detroit Baptist Theological Seminary - author Bob McCabe
Example 1
Ex 3:1-2 Now Moses was pasturing the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian; and he led the flock to the west side of the wilderness and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. 2
The angel of the Lord appeared to him in a blazing fire from the midst of a bush; and he looked, and behold, the bush was burning with fire, yet the bush was not consumed.
"The first passage is found in
Exodus 3:1–14. While tending the flock of his father-in-law at Horeb, Moses saw that a burning bush was not being consumed by the fire. As he approached the bush, v. 2 clearly states that the angel of the LORD appeared to him in the flames of the bush. It is stated in v. 4 that the LORD spoke to him from within the bush. In v. 6 the Being in the bush further identifies that He was the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. As the conversation continues between these two, the Being in the bush announces His name, “I AM WHO I AM” (v. 14). Thus, this passage indicates that the angel of the LORD mentioned in v.
2 is clearly identified by Himself and
accepted by Moses as the infinite God.
Example 2
Zechariah 3:1–10... the antecedent of “he” is the interpreting angel (he is referred to in 1:9, 14, 19; 2:3; 4:1, 3, 5; etc.; in light of 1:9 the interpreting angel was apparently present to explain some of the details of these visions to Zechariah), the antecedent of “me” is Zechariah,
the angel of the LORD, and Satan. In this verse Joshua is described as
standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan is pictured as standing at the right hand of the angel of the LORD to resist him. With this introduction to the vision we should note that the angel of the LORD is the focal point around which the following context revolves.
"The first half of v. 2 reads like this: “
The LORD said to Satan, ‘
The LORD rebuke you, Satan!’” In light of the participants mentioned in v. 1, we could read this verse in this fashion: “And the LORD, that is the angel of the LORD, said unto Satan, ‘The LORD rebuke you, Satan.’” Therefore, v. 2 identifies the angel of the LORD as the LORD and indicates that there is a distinction between the angel of the LORD and the LORD. This identification is further substantiated in v. 4. If we follow the context of vv. 2–4 carefully, we should notice that it is the angel of the LORD who forgives sin in v. 4.
Since God is the only one who forgives sin, it is readily apparent that the angel of the LORD is God. Consequently,
this passage provides solid support for both the deity of the angel of the LORD and his distinctiveness from the LORD.
Who is both deity and yet a distinct person from the LORD? Since no one has ever seen God the Father (
John 1:18; 1 Tim 6:16) and since the
Holy Spirit never takes on bodily form, this suggests that the supernatural Being to which this expression refers
is the second member of the Trinity (also compare Exod 3:14 with
John 8:58).
Therefore, the angel of the LORD was a temporary manifestation of the LORD Jesus Christ in a preincarnate form
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Your response above did not deal with the texts that point to the fact.
As for the scholarship agreeing with
Detroit Baptist Theological Seminary - author Bob McCabe
Some examples:
Friday at 10:53 PM #19
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Adam Clarke Commentary
Exodus 3 Verse 2
The angel of the Lord - Not a created angel certainly; for he is called יהוה Jehovah, Exodus 3:4, etc., and has the most expressive attributes of the Godhead applied to him, Exodus 3:14, etc. Yet he is an angel, מלאך malach, a messenger, in whom was the name of God, Exodus 23:21; and in whom dwelt all the fullness of the Godhead bodily, Colossians 2:9; and who, in all these primitive times, was the Messenger of the covenant, Malachi 3:1. And who was this but Jesus, the Leader, Redeemer, and Savior of mankind? See Clarke's note on Genesis 16:7.
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James Burton Coffman
Ex 3 Verse 2-3
"And the angel of Jehovah appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed. And Moses said, I will turn aside now, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt."
"The angel of Jehovah ..." As the context proves, "The Angel of Jehovah is not a created angel but Jehovah himself in his act of self-revelation."[10] This is merely another name for God, of which there are many in the Bible. Although this verse does not indicate it, there is reason to believe that the Angel of Jehovah should be identified with our Lord Jesus Christ, the Second Person of the Godhead; he is also called the Angel of the Covenant.[11]
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Jamieson Fausset Brown
Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible
Verse 2-3
the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a flame of fire — It is common in Scripture to represent the elements and operations of nature, as winds, fires, earthquakes, pestilence, everything enlisted in executing the divine will, as the “angels” or messengers of God. But in such cases God Himself is considered as really, though invisibly, present. Here the preternatural fire may be primarily meant by the expression “angel of the Lord”; but it is clear that under this symbol, the Divine Being was present, whose name is given (Exodus 3:4, Exodus 3:6), and elsewhere called the angel of the covenant, Jehovah-Jesus.
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I think we can all agree that none of those Bible scholars were following Ellen White to make their statements or take their positions on this subject. So we cannot blame her for positions they take.
Nor can we "blame me" for positions those scholars take.
Albert Barnes Commentary
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So then two opinions --
here is one -
Albert Barnes Commentary
Exodus 3
Ex 3:1-2 Now Moses was pasturing the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian; and he led the flock to the west side of the wilderness and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. 2
The angel of the Lord appeared to him in a blazing fire from the midst of a bush; and he looked, and behold, the bush was burning with fire, yet the bush was not consumed.
vs 2
What Moses saw was the flame of fire in the bush; what he recognized therein was an intimation of the presence of God, who maketh a flame of fire His angel. Compare Psalm 104:4. The words which Moses heard were those of God Himself,
as all ancient and most modern divines have held, manifested in the Person of the Son
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I ran out of time quoting so many of them that do not share your view after I got to
Albert Barnes
James Burton Coffman
Adam Clarke Commentary
Detroit Baptist Theological Seminary
Bob McCabe
R.C.Sproul
The Angel of the LORD
Verse 7 tells us “the angel of the Lord” found Hagar at the spring. This angel is no mere messenger of God, even though royal messengers in those days were treated with the same respect as the sender. When the angel of the Lord appears elsewhere in Scripture, people fall down in worship (see Judg. 6:22–24). After seeing the angel, Hagar addresses him as God (Gen. 16:13). This angel appeared mainly during the period recounted in Genesis and Judges, and, while the New Testament does not explicitly identify the angel with the Son of God, many in church history have identified this messenger as the pre-incarnate Christ.
"The point" is that these folks are not saying this "because Ellen White told them to say it" -- as I am sure we all agree.
And I think Albert Barnes' statement above is correct as even your own scenarios include one where the Angel of the Lord is in fact God - speaking to Moses.
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And your incorrect accusation in the OP is not only a false accusation - but the "Angel of the Lord" topic in general is one where even you can see you do not agree with well known Bible scholarship not at all connected to your topic "Ellen White".
