Trump Hails “Good Bloodlines” of Henry Ford, Whose Anti-Semitism Inspired Hitler

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Trump Hails “Good Bloodlines” of Henry Ford, Whose Anti-Semitism Inspired Hitler
DONALD TRUMP’S CAMPAIGN to change the subject from the coronavirus pandemic took a bizarre turn on Thursday, as the president paused during a speech at a Ford Motor Company plant in Michigan to praise the “good bloodlines” of the family descended from the firm’s founder, Henry Ford, a notorious anti-Semite and favorite of Adolf Hitler.
In an apparent ad-lib, Trump looked up from his prepared remarks — which praised the firm for teaming up with General Electric to produce ventilators and face shields for medical workers — to observe that Henry Ford’s descendants, like the current chairman, Bill Ford, who had introduced the president, have “good blood.”
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"Henry Ford, a notorious anti-Semite and favorite of Adolf Hitler." <---did TRUMP say this or was this ADDED by others? :) theintercept of which this report came from.. lean left. This is by more then one bias checker. I find that interesting. If I have offended please forgive me.
 
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"Henry Ford, a notorious anti-Semite and favorite of Adolf Hitler." <---did TRUMP say this or was this ADDED by others? :) theintercept of which this report came from.. lean left. This is by more then one bias checker. I find that interesting. If I have offended please forgive me.
Did you follow the link provided in the OP? :scratch:
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Henry Ford was a genius at industrial management, his opinions on Jews notwithstanding.
Perhaps but he laid the foundation for the loss in manufacturing jobs in the US. No one wanted to work on the assembly line because it was mind numbingly boring, so he paid them much, much more than they could get at any other job. Eventually Mexico and Asia want to get in on the act, they can work for a fraction of what the US worker gets. Now someone who spent 20 years tightening a bolt on an assembly line has no qualifications and can only make a fifth of what they were getting paid. They feel like they had been cheated. That is why we lost our manufacturing jobs. Good news is a robot can do it even cheaper than someone from Asia or Mexico and with less risk of a contagion. We might have 40 million unemployed in the US but soon every one of our robots will be gainfully employed.
 
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We lost our manufacturing jobs because of trade deals implemented much later. In Ford's day the US had tariffs in place to make sure that the more backward countries didn't get on the act.

Look up "Hawley Smoot" to learn how tariffs affected jobs.
 
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Albert Speer remarked that Hitler had considerable ability as an industrial designer. In a different world, Hitler might have designed a very good motorcar himself.

The article names Ferdinand Porsche as the designer of the VW Beetle.

Look up "Hawley Smoot" to learn how tariffs affected jobs.

I'm familiar with Smoot-Hawley. Some people claim it aggravated the Great Depression. I don't need to argue about how recent free trade agreements impacted the auto industry, since ZNP has adequately described that. (Note when the American people were presented with a President opposed to those agreements, they didn't let it pass.) I was simply pointing out that those agreements were implemented well after Henry Ford was gone.
 
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The article names Ferdinand Porsche as the designer of the VW Beetle.

Hitler gave him the specs. And there is some disagreement as to who actually drew up the plans as Hitler specified them.

The need for a people's car (Volkswagen in German, and in the English-speaking world in the early 20th century as "folk's wagon"), its concept and its functional objectives were formulated by the leader of Nazi Germany, Adolf Hitler, who wanted a cheap, simple car to be mass-produced for his country's new road network...In fact, Béla Barényi was able to prove in court in 1953 that Porsche's patents were Barényi's ideas, and therefore Barényi has since been credited with first conceiving the original design for this car in 1925,[16] – notably by Mercedes-Benz, on their website, including his original technical drawing,[18] – five years before Ferdinand Porsche claimed to have made his initial version.[28] Barényi also successfully sued Volkswagen for copyright infringement in 1955, whereby his contribution to the creation of the VW Type 1 was legally acknowledged.
Volkswagen Beetle - Wikipedia

I'm familiar with Smoot-Hawley. Some people claim it aggravated the Great Depression.

No question about it.

I don't need to argue about how recent free trade agreements impacted the auto industry,

Protection of an industry is not necessarily a good thing for the nation. Consider Japan. They decided to protect rice farmers, so they put a huge tariff on American rice, which due to technology and land factors, Americans can produce much more efficiently than the Japanese can.

People began to see American rice as a luxury good, and somehow better than Japanese rice. The net effect was to take money out of the pockets of Japanese citizens and give it to rice farmers who continued the economic inefficiency.

Free markets don't know anything, but they still know more than protectionists know.
 
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The primacy of bloodline is frequently lauded by the aristocracy and prominent families. That's the reason he reiterates 'bloodline' and 'genes' in the piece. Its a philosophy unto itself for selective mating.

The irony is that "bloodlines" don't work. Inbreeding destroys fitness unless you rigorously destroy any individual in the bloodline with any defect at all. Do a search on "Hapsburgs genetic" to see what inbreeding can do to a dynasty. And without inbreeding,there is no bloodline. Queen Elizabeth is a direct descendant of William the Conqueror, but it's highly unlikely that she has even one of his genes.
 
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The irony is that "bloodlines" don't work. Inbreeding destroys fitness unless you rigorously destroy any individual in the bloodline with any defect at all. Do a search on "Hapsburgs genetic" to see what inbreeding can do to a dynasty. And without inbreeding,there is no bloodline. Queen Elizabeth is a direct descendant of William the Conqueror, but it's highly unlikely that she has even one of his genes.

I'm familiar with the Hapsburgs and the problems of inbreeding (the Amish have similar issues). Most who adhere to the philosophy work within a pool and add outsiders to bring beneficial genes to the fold. As our genetic knowledge increased we're aware of the role it plays in many areas. Some exploit the information to enhance their families and legacy.

~Bella
 
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Intelligence is a heritable trait. Trump was just saying Ford's childrens intelligence came from "good" genetics...

Turns out most of your intelligence is due to experience.

It's scientific... anywhere between 40-80% of our intelligence is heritable and genetic..

Closer to 40% than 80%, I think. My wife and I both have advanced degrees, and all my kids have college degrees and have jobs that require much intelligence. It would be flattering for me to think our genes are superior, but it's much more likely that the culture of our family was more responsible.

British Journal of Educational Psychology
INTERACTION OF HEREDITY AND ENVIRONMENT IN REGARD TO ‘MEASURED INTELLIGENCE’

D. H. STOTT

First published: June 1960
Summary . Recent work in experimental biology suggests interaction in the form of the facilitation of genetic pre‐disposition by adverse conditions of gestation. This may explain not only how certain environmental factors may produce mental defect and physical malformation in human beings, but also certain more general findings of the Scottish Mental Survey.


The greater resemblance in ‘measured intelligence’ of monozygotic twins can no longer confidently be attributed to ‘heredity.’


Interaction of this type presupposes a very great number of alternative modes of development. Congenital variations in temperament and motivation, by affecting the acquisition of mental skills, add further alternatives.


The ‘contributions’ of heredity and environment can, consequently, be the subject only of retrospective estimate in individual cases; general quantitative estimates for a population are meaningless.

The best evidence for inherited intelligence is in the case of Ashkenazi Jews, for which there was documented very high selective pressure for intelligence during the Middle Ages. Higher intelligence in some cases of such people is associated with some genetically-based neurological disorders, suggesting mutations and incomplete adaptation over time.


I don't think racism is informed by genetics but by environment, although I'm unsure if that's been studied much.

Xenophobia seems to be genetic; likely there was a survival value in avoiding strangers, who might carry disease organisms to which one's own group has little resistance. But it's clear enough that kids of different races, raised among other races, don't automatically form racist ideas.
 
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"Henry Ford, a notorious anti-Semite and favorite of Adolf Hitler." <---did TRUMP say this or was this ADDED by others? :) theintercept of which this report came from.. lean left. This is by more then one bias checker. I find that interesting. If I have offended please forgive me.
I suggest you read The Accusation: Blood Libel in an American Town by Edward Berenson. It just came out in 2019 and spends time discussing the anti-semitism of Henry Ford. You local public library should have it or should be able to inter library loan it for you.
 
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I suggest you read The Accusation: Blood Libel in an American Town by Edward Berenson. It just came out in 2019 and spends time discussing the anti-semitism of Henry Ford. You local public library should have it or should be able to inter library loan it for you.

Or he could just read The International Jew and get it straight from the horse’s mouth. Primary sources, if you can get them, are preferable to secondary ones.
 
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Or he could just read The International Jew and get it straight from the horse’s mouth. Primary sources, if you can get them, are preferable to secondary ones.
Agreed. I suggested the newer book only because it will probably be easier to get at a public library or to borrow on ILL.
 
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