Difference between hearts of stone and flesh

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Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. Moreover, I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; and I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.
— Ezekiel 36:25-26

Why is this necessary? What can the heart of flesh do that the heart of stone cannot?
 
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I think here he may be referring to the insensitivity/inhumanity of stone in contrast to that of real flesh/humanity: inconsiderate and/or indifferent in contrast to empathetic and/or compassionate.
 
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Pumping blood was my first thought, which is probably why I shouldn't respond.
If that’s what you think the passage is about, then you’re right. You shouldn’t.
 
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I’ve always taken it as your heart being a metaphor for a garden. A heart of flesh would be more pliable to the will of God.

Hosea 10:12
Sow righteousness for yourselves, reap the fruit of unfailing love, and break up your unplowed ground; for it is time to seek the LORD, until he comes and showers his righteousness on you.
 
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Are you saying that those who aren’t saved can’t love?
You asked for the difference of a stoney and a fleshly heart and I answered from the perspective of their distinctive function. If you want to define the difference using salvation as the point of view, then I would say those who don't love (have a stoney heart), aren't saved (Matthew 25:41-43).
 
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I think here he may be referring to the insensitivity/inhumanity of stone in contrast to that of real flesh/humanity: inconsiderate and/or indifferent in contrast to empathetic and/or compassionate.

Why is this necessary? What can the heart of flesh do that the heart of stone cannot?
 
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You asked for the difference of a stoney and a fleshly heart and I answered from the perspective of their distinctive function. If you want to define the difference using salvation as the point of view, then I would say those who don't love (have a stoney heart), aren't saved (Matthew 25:41-43).
Maybe I assumed too much with your reply, but I’m going off the premise that the heart of stone belongs to the unsaved while the heart of flesh belongs to the saved.

Is your view different?
 
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Why is this necessary? What can the heart of flesh do that the heart of stone cannot?

The heart of flesh (as the seat of spiritual intellect) can perceive the 'godawful truth' of things that the stoney heart cannot.
 
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I’ve always taken it as your heart being a metaphor for a garden. A heart of flesh would be more pliable to the will of God.


Sow righteousness for yourselves, reap the fruit of unfailing love, and break up your unplowed ground; for it is time to seek the LORD, until he comes and showers his righteousness on you.
Based on your response, why would someone with a heart of stone do any of that, especially being not pliable to the will of God?
 
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Maybe I assumed too much with your reply, but I’m going off the premise that the heart of stone belongs to the unsaved while the heart of flesh belongs to the saved.

Is your view different?
Maybe. I maintain that the condition of our heart changes based on the things we think, say and do (Matthew 15:19-20) and that reflects/affects our 'saved' status.
 
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Maybe. I maintain that the condition of our heart changes based on the things we think, say and do (Matthew 15:19-20) and that reflects/affects our 'saved' status.
How does that fit with the quoted verses?
 
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How does that fit with the quoted verses?
You will find the appropriate coupling that fits the two together in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 and Galatians 5:20-21.
 
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The heart of flesh (as the seat of spiritual intellect) can perceive the 'godawful truth' of things that the stoney heart cannot.
I think it’s the other way around. A wooden heart is just rubble but a heart of stone can endure, and a heart of flesh would be a relief in understanding.
 
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You’ll have to explain.
The list of things that come out of the heart and defile it, are the same things that Saint Paul says cause one not to inherit the Kingdom of God (not to be saved). And if one is not saved (in the end), he must have hardened his heart (Hebrews 3:12-15).
 
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