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So, are you 'accurately' worshipping God through the correct Hebrew-Aramaic OT and the Greek NT?

Believers should try to align all their beliefs with the Bible.
Currently there are two positions set before us.

Position #1. Believe God preserves His Word, and He speaks to us in a language without any major training or

Position #2. God speaks to us in an old dead language that nobody can understand whatsoever without a Lexicon or special books.​

The key is... which one is closest to what you see in Scripture?

I have yet to see the Modern Translation or God's Word does not perfectly exist or God's Word only exists in a dead language that nobody today cannot just pick up and read normally in any kind of way.
 
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I'm not here to argue with you.
But it just SEEMS like the whole O.P. was about a bible.

I love the Living Word.
And I wish God's blessings upon you.

Blessings to you, as well.
But I believe there is not just "a bible" but there is "THE bible."
There can be only one nailed down Word of God that exists in all its various forms of language throughout history.

I believe the Scriptures were preserved throughout time in:

  • Hebrew (OT Scriptures),
  • Aramaic (Some of Ezra, Daniel, etc.),
  • Greek (NT Scriptures),
  • Latin (The Holy Bible),
  • English (The Holy Bible).

I believe God is perfect in the way that He does things, and this means there can be only one Word for each of these languages throughout time.
 
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Believers should try to align all their beliefs with the Bible.
Currently there are two positions set before us.

Position #1. Believe God preserves His Word, and He speaks to us in a language without any major training or

Position #2. God speaks to us in an old dead language that nobody can understand whatsoever without a Lexicon or special books.​

The key is... which one is closest to what you see in Scripture?

I have yet to see the Modern Translation or God's Word does not perfectly exist or God's Word only exists in a dead language that nobody today cannot just pick up and read normally in any kind of way.

BH,

I agree there is no 'perfect' translation but we have so many linguistic scholars around the world who work constantly to get good translations in the CEV, ERV, ESV, NABRE, NJB, NASB, NIV, NKJV, NLT, NRSV, REB etc.

I haven't found any, without the Apocrapha, that affect any major doctrines.

Oz
 
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I believe God is perfect in the way that He does things, and this means there can be only one Word for each of these languages throughout time.

What leads you to conclude 'there can be only one Word' of God and that is the KJV?
 
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Every single word in the Bible is vitally important. Any attempt to add, delete or change a word
or text in the word of God, especially in the book of Revelation (Rev 22:19), will attract the wrath of God.

The Bible is the guide to the sanctification and salvation of our souls.
It is how we understand what God's will is. In it are the commandments and words that direct
us in the way in which we are to live to be found worthy of the kingdom of God.

Therefore we need to make sure we are reading from the uncorrupted word of God.
Which to me and many other English readers is found in the King James Bible.

The King James Bible was translated out of the original tongues with former
translations diligently compared and revised by the command of King James. 47 of the best scribes
in the Church of England worked from 1604 to 1611 to complete the work. Creating the original 1611 editon
of the King James Bible.
The following editions up to 1880 were mainly for standardizing the spelling and fixing printing mistakes.
From archaic English to modern English. Here's a few examples.

blinde ---> blind
sinne ---> sin
almightie ---> almighty
raigned ---> reigned
receiue ---> receive
certainetie --> certainty

The meaning of the words have never changed as they have in corrupted Bibles.

Many of us read from the 1762 or 1769 or later editions of the King James Bible.
The same words as the original 1611 edition, only the spelling of the words has been updated.
You can have full confidence in your Kings James Bible.

Beware alterations that attempt to exploit the King James name,
such as the New King James Version.

Most modern Bibles are translated from Westcott & Hort's Greek New Testament.
These two men were known heretics with much evidence proving they were deeply involved in the occult.
Even founding two secret societies. The Hermes Club and the Ghostly Guild.
There is plenty of webpages exposing Westcott & Hort so I won't go into much detail here.

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What I would like to examine here is what these corrupted Bibles do that is so bad.

If you compare the King James Bible with modern Bibles such as the NIV, NASV, NKJV, ESV, ASV,
RSV, JB, LB, TEV, NEB, NRSV, NAB, CEV, NBV and many others, you will notice there are thousands of
words and verses changed or omitted (removed). You will notice critical points completely altered.
You will begin to notice there are evil agendas in these corrupted Bibles.

Here are some of the blasphemous attacks these wicked Bibles make on the word of God.

Attack on the deity of Jesus Christ by changing the word God to He, changing the word
Christ to One, changing Christ's own words when He says "my Father" to "the Father" and more.
References for you to compare between Bibles:
[Timothy 3:16 / Daniel 3:25 / Acts 3:13,26 / Philippians 2:6 / Acts 8:37 / John 6:69]
[John 9:35 / Matthew 20:20 / John 4:42 / Acts 15:11 / Acts 16:31 / Romans 1:3/ 1 Corinthians 5:4]
[Ephesians 3:14 / 1 Thessalonians 2:19 / 1 Thessalonians 3:11 / 2 Thessalonians 1:8]
[John 14:28 / Philippians 4:13 / Acts 7:59]

They completely remove verses about Christ coming in the flesh or about His flesh.
This is an attack on the incarnation of Christ.
[John 4:3 / Acts 2:30 / Ephesians 5:30]

They alter scripture concerning the virgin birth of Jesus. Changing verses to indicate
that He was born of an earthly father and altering verses to cast doubt upon the virginity
of Mary at Jesus' birth.
[Matthew 1:25 / Luke 2:33 / Luke 2:43]

They attack the atonement of Christ of which we are pardoned from our very sins through His blood.
[Colossians 1:14,24 / 1 Corinthians 11:24 / 1 Corinthians 5:7 / 1 Peter 4:1]
[Ephesians 1:14 / Hebrews 1:3]

They question almost every appearance of Jesus after His resurrection, causing doubts
concerning His bodily resurrection and deity.
[Mark 16:9-20 / Luke 9:31 / Acts 1:3 / Ephesians 5:30]
[Luke 13:12 / Luke 24:12,40]

They remove almost every mention of Christ's ascension into Heaven where He now is.
[John 16:16 / Luke 24:51 / Mark 16:19 / John 3:13]

They attack the Godhead. The manifestation of God to us through
the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
[1 John 5:7 / Isaiah 48:16 / Romans 1:20 / Acts 17:29 / Colossians 2:9]

They attack the justification of salvation through faith in Jesus Christ.
(let us not forget that we are only given faith when we strictly obey God)
[Acts 8:37 / Romans 11:6 / Romans 11:30-32 / Hebrews 3:18]
[Galatians 5:22 / John 6:47 / Hebrews 1:3 / Mark 10:24 / Matthew 6:22]

Alterations and omissions diminish the authority of Scripture and discourage
confidence in its divine inspiration and preservation.
[Luke 4:4 / Psalm 12:6,7 / 2 John 9 / 2 Corinthians 2:17]

Attack on the masculine deity of God. New versions frequently change masculine
words referring to God to the neuter "One". False religions of this world
often identify their god as "the One". The new "Politically Correct" bible calls
God, "Father-Mother", and Christ, "the human one".
[John 7:8 / Colossians 3:10 / John 6:69 / Revelation 1:18]
[John 12:45 / John 15:21 / Matthew 13:37]

In the only passage of Scripture which describes Lucifer's iniquity and
fall into hell, most new versions omit the name Lucifer
and confuse his identity with Jesus Christ.
[Isaiah 14:12 / Luke 4:8]

New versions exalt man to being "a little lower than God" and omit many references
to his fallen spiritual condition. Cults, the New Age and false religions also
raise mankind to the level of being divine or in the process of evolving into gods.
[Psalm 8:5 / Matthew 18:11 / Colossians 3:6 / Mark 15:28]

[New versions frequently delete words such as "righteousness", "holy", "perfect"
and other requirements of the sanctified life. As a result, the gospel is brought
into reproach by worldliness and corruption in the church.
[1 Thessalonians 5:27 / 2 Peter 1:21 / 1 Peter 1:22 / 1 Corinthians 2:6 / 2 Timothy 3:17]
[Proverbs 21:21 / 1 Peter 2:12 / Titus 1:8 / Jude 1:1 / Mark 10:21 / Matthew 20:16]
[Romans 8:1 / Matthew 5:44 / 2 Timothy 2:15 / 1 Timothy 4:15 / Revelation 22:14]

Attack on prayer. New versions remove 21 words from The Lord's Prayer in
Luke chapter 11 and words of instruction on prayer in other passages.
[Luke 11:2-4 / Matthew 6:13 / Mark 13:33]
[Luke 21:36 / Acts 1:14 / James 5:16 / Mark 9:29]

Important references to the Second Coming of Jesus Christ to establish His
reign upon earth are often omitted in the new versions. The New Age Movement,
cults and apostate religions believe that "the Christ" is already on the
earth and will soon be revealed. Sadly they will get the Antichrist
who cometh first to deceive the world.
[Matthew 6:13 / Matthew 25:13 / Revelation 11:15,17 / Titus 2:13 / John 18:36]

New versions change "sin" to "guilt", thus relieving man of his accountability
and placing the blame on God. Rewording of 1 John 5:19 blames the devil
for sin, as did Eve. Modern psychology in the church reflects this
propensity to transfer responsibility for sin rather than to repent. New versions
alter many verses pertaining to sin in order to present it in less relevant,
personal and severe terms.
[Luke 7:30 / 1 Corinthians 5:1-6,13 / Ephesians 5:5 / Galatians 5:19]
[Deuteronomy 23:17 / 1 Timothy 1:10 / Galatians 5:21 / Romans 13:9]
[1 Thessalonians 2:3 / Mark 10:24 / 1 Timothy 6:10 / Mark 11:26 / Matthew 5:22]
[John 7:53 / John 8:11 / Isaiah 53:10 / 1 John 5:19 / Revelation 2:15]
[2 Timothy 3:2,3 / Titus 2:5 / Revelation 22:11 / 2 Corinthians 4:2 / Matthew 23:14]

References to a final Day of Judgment are often missing in new versions.
New Age prophets teach that, since God is love, He does not judge anyone &
belief in a literal hell and fear of God's judgment are both foolishness and
and offence to modern man.
[Daniel 7:10 / Matthew 5:21 / Mark 6:11 / Luke 17:36 / 2 Corinthians 5:11]
[Revelation 6:17 / Revelation 12:12 / Revelation 15:3,4]
[Revelation 21:24 / Revelation 22:19]

And I have no doubt there are many other blasphemous and corrupt things
do they to the word of God.

I believe there is none of that in the King James Bible and that it is the purest translation of original manuscripts for all English readers.

BC,

Why have you broken one of the 10 commandments by making this copy and paste post?

Why have you plagiarized (stolen) this material from this or a similar website? Corrupted Bibles

You want us to believe the KJV is the best Bible but you have disobeyed the command, 'Thou shalt not steal' (7th commandment, Ex 20:15 KJV; Matt 19:18 KJV) with your plagiarism.

I suggest you get your house in order before you engage in this kind of exercise.

Oz
 
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That is my website @OzSpen
gffg stands for GoodFruitForGod, I have a youtube channel with the same name

Also we are not under the 10 commandments or the law. As we are told directly we are not under the law and indirectly that we are not under the 10 commandments through Colossians 2:16.

Not to say we aren't under moral obligation of 9/10 (all but the Sabbath) of the commandments.
 
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GodsGrace101,



So, are you 'accurately' worshipping God through the correct Hebrew-Aramaic OT and the Greek NT?
Hi Oz,

Of course I'm accurately whorshipping God !
But this is my point....I believe we should worship God
and not the bible.

Some love the KJV so much that it makes me wonder if they don't worship that version of the bible too.

I also stated that I believe the KJV is not very accurate due to its old age....the NKJV might be better-- I'm not knowledgeable enough to know this.

Newer versions are much more accurate due to the reason I had stated previously; older manuscripts have been found from which to translate and check different sources.

Also, I don't believe any manuscript has been found that would change any of the tenets of the Christian faith.
 
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Blessings to you, as well.
But I believe there is not just "a bible" but there is "THE bible."
There can be only one nailed down Word of God that exists in all its various forms of language throughout history.

I believe the Scriptures were preserved throughout time in:

  • Hebrew (OT Scriptures),
  • Aramaic (Some of Ezra, Daniel, etc.),
  • Greek (NT Scriptures),
  • Latin (The Holy Bible),
  • English (The Holy Bible).

I believe God is perfect in the way that He does things, and this means there can be only one Word for each of these languages throughout time.
I'll have to disagree.
I'm on another thread right now discussing
John 6.44. What does the word DRAW mean in that verse?

"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day."
 
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That is my website @OzSpen
gffg stands for GoodFruitForGod, I have a youtube channel with the same name

Also we are not under the 10 commandments or the law. As we are told directly we are not under the law and indirectly that we are not under the 10 commandments through Colossians 2:16.

Not to say we aren't under moral obligation of 9/10 (all but the Sabbath) of the commandments.
What is the difference between being under the law
and being under obligation to the moral law?

I don't see any difference.

We are either to follow the commandments or we are not. Which is it?
 
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I'll have to disagree.
I'm on another thread right now discussing
John 6.44. What does the word DRAW mean in that verse?

"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day."

Imagine if you were discussing 1 John 5:7. You would be discussing whether or not this verse should even should be in your Bible or not. 1 John 5:7 talks about the Trinity in the KJV, and yet this verse is absent in most of your Modern Translations. Why? The devil hates God's Word and will seek to water down and attack it by any means. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing the Word of God (Romans 10:17), but if the foundations be destroyed, what shall the righteous do? (Psalms 11:3).
 
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Also we are not under the 10 commandments or the law. As we are told directly we are not under the law and indirectly that we are not under the 10 commandments through Colossians 2:16.

Not to say we aren't under moral obligation of 9/10 (all but the Sabbath) of the commandments.

Well said brother. I 100% agree. Check out my signature at the bottom of each of my posts. It is rare these days that Christians get this one.

Blessings to you in the Lord today, brother;
And thank you for preaching the Word.
 
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I believe the Scriptures were preserved throughout time in:

  • Hebrew (OT Scriptures),
  • Aramaic (Some of Ezra, Daniel, etc.),
  • Greek (NT Scriptures),
  • Latin (The Holy Bible),
  • English (The Holy Bible).

Thanks, I'm good then as I know at least one of my Bibles says The Holy Bible and it happens to be a NIV.
 
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Thanks, I'm good then as I know at least one of my Bibles says The Holy Bible and it happens to be a NIV.
The early NIV was quite good actually, the later iterations had some alterations done. Basically some deletions to fit someones agenda at that time.
 
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The early NIV was quite good actually, the later iterations had some alterations done. Basically some deletions to fit someones agenda at that time.

I have the 1984 version, was the first Bible I ever owned and was given to me by my now ex-wife. I also just picked up the NIV Life Application Bible 3rd Edition. It was published on my Birthday in 2019. I like them both.
 
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The only incorruptible Word of God is the risen Christ. Jesus Christ and the bible are not identical. There cannot be two incorruptible Words of God, lest Christ be divided. So, either we worship one and use the other, or we run the risk of idolatry.
 
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I looked at your website. I agree that we need to have obedience as a part of salvation, too. Most do not seem to understand this and yet many will slander us as Catholics, even though we are not.

Anyways, back on topic to the KJV:

Have you ever seen the DVD called
"KJB The Book That Changed The World"?


In my opinion it is really informative.
 
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The only incorruptible Word of God is the risen Christ. Jesus Christ and the bible are not identical. There cannot be two incorruptible Words of God, lest Christ be divided. So, either we worship one and use the other, or we run the risk of idolatry.

Please, clarify.

Are you saying you do not read the Bible?
 
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Imagine if you were discussing 1 John 5:7. You would be discussing whether or not this verse should even should be in your Bible or not. 1 John 5:7 talks about the Trinity in the KJV, and yet this verse is absent in most of your Modern Translations.
Many reduced that 1 John 5:7 verse to three witnesses vs naming them in full. But several versions include the whole statement including my NKJV. I haven't ( yet anyway) seen it totally omitted in any translation I've run into.
 
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Therefore we need to make sure we are reading from the uncorrupted word of God.
Which to me and many other English readers is found in the King James Bible.
If that is true, WHY could the KJV translators NOT even correctly translate the name of the 20th book of the NT?

Ἰάκωβος > Iakōbos = Jacob, NOT James.
 
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Please, clarify.

Are you saying you do not read the Bible?

That's an odd inference. No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying Christians equivocate over the phrase "Word/word of God" and that some approaches to the scriptures verge on idolatry. I would say expecting the bible to be perfect, and treating it as perfect, runs just such a risk.

The scriptures are a means to an end. That end being faith in Christ. To treat the scriptures as an end in themselves is a misuse. The scriptures could never be perfect, lest they be confused with the One who is perfect.
 
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