UNDER THE LAW!

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Titus 1:10-13
For there are many rebellious people, full of meaningless talk and deception, especially those of the circumcision group. 11 They must be silenced, because they are disrupting whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach—and that for the sake of dishonest gain. 12 One of Crete’s own prophets has said it: “Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons.” 13 This saying is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith 14 and will pay no attention to Jewish myths or to the merely human commands of those who reject the truth.
 
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Titus 1:10-13
For there are many rebellious people, full of meaningless talk and deception, especially those of the circumcision group. 11 They must be silenced, because they are disrupting whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach—and that for the sake of dishonest gain. 12 One of Crete’s own prophets has said it: “Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons.” 13 This saying is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith 14 and will pay no attention to Jewish myths or to the merely human commands of those who reject the truth.

This speaks of the Pharisaic law, the Talmud. How is this relevant to the OP?
 
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It’s your prerogative if you do not desire to grow in your understanding.
I understand you just fine. That's why I am here. You need to be stopped at all cost. - lol
 
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This speaks of the Pharisaic law, the Talmud. How is this relevant to the OP?
So you claim.

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So you claim.

We seem to be getting all the good ratings. You guys have... nothing.

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Sorry to burst your bubble, but likes and thumbs up don’t mean anything. I’m not here for likes and buttons - I’m
Here to discuss what the scriptures say.
 
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This speaks of the Pharisaic law, the Talmud. How is this relevant to the OP?
Nope Acts 15 all over again.

Acts 15:1, 5
Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: “Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved.” ...
5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, “The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses.”
 
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Acts 15:1, 5
Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: “Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved.” ...
5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, “The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses.”

(CLV) Ac 15:1
And some, coming down from Judea, taught the brethren that, "If you should not be circumcised after the custom of Moses, you can not be saved.

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saved."(CLV) Ac 15:5
Yet some from the sect of the Pharisees who have believed rise up, saying that they must be circumcised, besides charging them to keep the law of Moses.

Really?!? LOL!


Shortly thereafter Paul circumcises Timothy.
 
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(CLV) Ac 15:1
And some, coming down from Judea, taught the brethren that, "If you should not be circumcised after the custom of Moses, you can not be saved.

Talmud

saved."(CLV) Ac 15:5
Yet some from the sect of the Pharisees who have believed rise up, saying that they must be circumcised, besides charging them to keep the law of Moses.

Really?!? LOL!


Shortly thereafter Paul circumcises Timothy.
Verse 1 - Circumcision was from Abraham not the Talmud.
Verse 5 - Says "the law of Moses".
There was a reason to circumcise Timothy. He wasn't following Judaism.
 
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Verse 1 - Circumcision was from Abraham not the Talmud.

According to the Custom (Talmud), not the Torah.

Before you go into your knee jerk argument; when was Abraham circumcised?

The custom was not in line with Torah. Yahshua rebuked this.

Verse 5 - Says "the law of Moses".

That's right, an opinion of Pharisees. They were putting the cart before the horse. You really should read the Torah.

There was a reason to circumcise Timothy. He wasn't following Judaism.

Wrong.
 
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but likes and thumbs up don’t mean anything. I’m not here for likes and buttons - I’m
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You can’t stop the truth, no matter how hard you try.
The truth is, you have a law written in ink, the Christian is to have a law written in the mind and placed on the heart by the Spirit of the living God. The former is of the natural mind, the latter is not. Which is why you cannot understand the spiritual message of law and grace
 
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For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace.

Pauls core message on law and grace could be summed up in the above verse. It doesn't say if you do not commit sin you are not under law, it says sin will not be your master because you are not under law but under grace. So the question is, why would sin not be your master if you are not under righteousness of obeying the law. And it does not matter how many concordances you read, or how much you read the bible in Greek, Aramaic, or Hebrew you will never understand that verse through doing so. It is understood through by another route
 
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The truth is, you have a law written in ink, the Christian is to have a law written in the mind and placed on the heart by the Spirit of the living God. The former is of the natural mind, the latter is not. Which is why you cannot understand the spiritual message of law and grace
Nobody in the NT taught this.
 
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Nobody in the NT taught this.
You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts. 2cor3:3
 
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