Ex-staffer accuses #MeToo supporter Joe Biden of sexual assault

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I have no time for the onslaught of compassion and concern, "neener, neenering" indignant republicans or Trump supporters are about to fake.

I feel like the upcoming election is going to be Trump supporters feeling self righteous because...surprise all this bunk is going to come out of the woodwork about Biden.


Dems choosing Biden will seriously Trumps election in my mind.
 
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Notice the article title. Joe Biden came out in support of the #METOO. Meaning he believes in principle his own accuser is truthful until proven false.

This particular accuser has accused on two separate occasions and changed her story. So, it's hard to take at face value.

Last year at this time her story was inappropriate advances and some unwanted touching and having her leave because Biden wanted her to serve drinks at a function.

This year what happened was that she was sexually assaulted.

I'm quite willing to believe that Biden wronged this woman, it makes perfect sense, but to suddenly change your story to a full sexual assault?
 
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While Biden may have agreed to the principle of guilty until proven innocent - to garner more votes I'm sure - I'm against the concept 100%, even in Biden's case where it might seem plausible since he is creepy around women...
To this point. I've seen a lot of pics of him clearly not getting the physical diaywnce thing and doing weird stuff

But ..got me thinking...

Who's creepier Trump or Biden?
In my mind it's uncomfortably close but I'd still say Trump is creepier. I feel like this answer would just go along party lines anyways.

Not sure why though since scoping out, and then talking about walking in on teenaged females dressing, as a 65 year old man feels waaaaaay more creepy to me than leaning on too close for a picture
 
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To this point. I've seen a lot of pics of him clearly not getting the physical diaywnce thing and doing weird stuff

But ..got me thinking...

Who's creepier Trump or Biden?
In my mind it's uncomfortably close but I'd still say Trump is creepier. I feel like this answer would just go along party lines anyways.

Not sure why though since scoping out, and then talking about walking in on teenaged females dressing, as a 65 year old man feels waaaaaay more creepy to me than leaning on too close for a picture

Trump seems more normal to me. He obviously likes women but nothing jumps out at you and screams molester... Joe's behavior is just weird, like, there's something wrong with it..

Joe reminds me of the guy at work who touched the sleeve of my silk shirt and said "ohhh that's soft", I took it as weird but dropped the issue, but then he did it again and so that time when he touched my shirt, closer to my chest, I told him if he touched me again I was going to hit him...

He touched me again later that day... I slapped him. that was just, creepy weird and abnormal.... the type who would freak you out alone in a dark alley.

Trumps more the guy who might hit on you if he finds attraction there, but will happily take no for an answer... he's a "theres more fish in the sea" type.... that kind doesn't bother me.
 
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This particular accuser has accused on two separate occasions and changed her story. So, it's hard to take at face value.

If a woman accuses a powerful man of sexual assault don't you have to assume she is telling the truth? She was probably so nervous each time that she just got a little confused.
 
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If a woman accuses a powerful man of sexual assault don't you have to assume she is telling the truth? She was probably so nervous each time that she just got a little confused.

Which time was she telling the truth?

I'd like to know but it's hard to assume conflicting accounts are true.
 
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Biden has a long well-known history of repeatedly violating the personal boundaries of others, including skinny-dipping in the presence of female SS. I don't find these charges implausible.

There’s a big chasm between Biden’s usual flavor of odd-yet-disappoingly-naive boundary violations and the sort of deliberate assault this woman described. I’m not saying he’s incapable of it, just that I wouldn’t necessarily draw the line from one to the other.

To this point. I've seen a lot of pics of him clearly not getting the physical diaywnce thing and doing weird stuff

But ..got me thinking...

Who's creepier Trump or Biden?
In my mind it's uncomfortably close but I'd still say Trump is creepier. I feel like this answer would just go along party lines anyways.

Not sure why though since scoping out, and then talking about walking in on teenaged females dressing, as a 65 year old man feels waaaaaay more creepy to me than leaning on too close for a picture

Trump is definitely creepier. Biden strikes me as the sort of guy who’s a bit weird but ultimately harmless, whereas Trump has articulated his salacious thoughts and motivations on a number of occasions.
 
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Is anyone surprised that creepy Joe wouldn't get these sort of accusations?

The big problem for progressives is that they have been the ones pushing the believe all women narrative. Will they casually dismiss her claims and thus reveal their hypocrisy?
 
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Biden actually did what Trump bragged about.

Is it your point Biden gets a pass allegedly violating a woman who worked for him?
My point is, if you're going to hold Biden to a standard yet give Trump a pass on that same standard, you're a hypocrite.
 
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Our new Supreme Court Justice was accused of worse. The defining word is Accused but without evidence, we can't know if it's true or not.
And of course, the word of the victim cannot be considered evidence
 
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???

When did he do that?

How is Joe a better choice?

Man, Barack is looking more and more legit all the time. Not a good President but at least he didn't assault women.
You don't remember Trump bragging about how he walked up to women and grabbed their crotches? Doesn't surprise me in this age of 30 second attention spans.

And no Biden is not a better choice. Look at my avatar. I don't support EITHER group of cheats and liars.

My point is, if you give Trump a pass on it, you have to do the same for Biden or you're a - c'mon now, in unison - hypocrite.
 
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Trump seems more normal to me. He obviously likes women but nothing jumps out at you and screams molester... Joe's behavior is just weird, like, there's something wrong with it..

Joe reminds me of the guy at work who touched the sleeve of my silk shirt and said "ohhh that's soft", I took it as weird but dropped the issue, but then he did it again and so that time when he touched my shirt, closer to my chest, I told him if he touched me again I was going to hit him...

He touched me again later that day... I slapped him. that was just, creepy weird and abnormal.... the type who would freak you out alone in a dark alley.

Trumps more the guy who might hit on you if he finds attraction there, but will happily take no for an answer... he's a "theres more fish in the sea" type.... that kind doesn't bother me.
Trump taking 'no' for an answer ... thanks for this morning's belly laugh!
 
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My point is, if you're going to hold Biden to a standard yet give Trump a pass on that same standard, you're a hypocrite.
I think Biden should be held to the position he adopted. In #MeToo the woman is presumed truthful until proven otherwise. That is how Biden should be addressing the allegations.
 
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And Trump shouldn't?
Did Trump make stump speeches in support of #MeToo?

No he didn’t. He believes in due process and one is innocent until proven guilty.

Joe Biden embraced the MeToo policy of an accused is guilty until proven innocent.

Biden chose his poison now he needs to drink it.
 
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Trumps more the guy who might hit on you if he finds attraction there, but will happily take no for an answer... he's a "theres more fish in the sea" type.... that kind doesn't bother me.
Tell that to Salma Hayek, he kept calling her despite rejection.
 
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Did Trump make stump speeches in support of #MeToo?

No he didn’t. He believes in due process and one is innocent until proven guilty.

Joe Biden embraced the MeToo policy of an accused is guilty until proven innocent.

Biden chose his poison now he needs to drink it.
This is such poor logic, but is par for course when seeking to accuse someone of sexual assault in contrast to a person that has been accused multiple times and has bragged about sexual assault.
 
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