Brexit will cost the UK up to 30 times more than it will gain back from striking a Trump trade deal

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Man...there are a LOT of claims on this website and very, very little secondary sources to back almost any of them.

I would LOVE to be able to believe anecdotal evidence, but I never do. Folks, I'd appreciate, once you talk past your own experience, to see data that support your claim.

I mean, take from that what you will but....
 
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You talking about my family?

I voted Remain, but I don't mind the idea of leaving, especially if the EU continues to slide right to stave off the right.(because that works so well...)

I don't even think the media will grill the Tories much if things do go down the drain.

As long as they look patriotic, good with money, and to be doing something about immigrants, they'll be golden in elections. Can't imagine the media doing otherwise.
I voted remain, and hate the idea of leaving with the Tories dictating the terms. Say hello to little to no regulation, cuts to employee protections and a chainsaw taken to what remains of the welfare state.
 
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Man...there are a LOT of claims on this website and very, very little secondary sources to back almost any of them.

I would LOVE to be able to believe anecdotal evidence, but I never do. Folks, I'd appreciate, once you talk past your own experience, to see data that support your claim.

I mean, take from that what you will but....
Hey we live on the age of Donald, evidence is for other people, didnt you get the memo!
 
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Man...there are a LOT of claims on this website and very, very little secondary sources to back almost any of them.

I would LOVE to be able to believe anecdotal evidence, but I never do. Folks, I'd appreciate, once you talk past your own experience, to see data that support your claim.

I mean, take from that what you will but....
Sorry. First time posting on this site for years.
I guess I feel more like ranting and venting than putting forward an argument.:p
 
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ummm who was it that shut down the goverment for months so that they couldn't get anything through on making a deal or dealing with the decision?
The idea they shut down the government for months is a fairy tale. It was party conference season and parliament is usually shut down at that time every year. Johnson just added a few days to it.
The country voted to leave, but Parliament was filled with treacherous Remainers who wanted to reverse that decision and was doing its best to stop Brexit altogether.

It was parliament which was stopping a deal being made.
 
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except all those shackles still remain, you just have no say in them any more.
EU shackles are only there because we are still in the transition period till the end of the year when it ends.
Your still going to have to obey all those EU regulations you guys hated if you ever want tio trade with them or do anything with the EU.
You are spouting silly nonsense without paying attention to facts. You don't need trade deals to export. One of our biggest trade partners is the USA and we have no mutual trade deal there.

Any goods exported to any country anywhere in the world will always have to comply with the recipient country's regulations.
That's why cars exported from the USA or France to the UK have to have the steering wheel on the right. This is true whether there is a trade agreement or not.
Likewise British cars exported to Canada, USA, France, Sweden etc, need steering wheels on the left etc. Again nothing to do with trade deals.

The issue with the EU is the demand that the UK internally binds herself to EU regulations. This is shear arrogance on their part and is meant solely to make it easy for EU companies to sell over here. Plus to make it more difficult for UK companies to ditch stupid regulations that are designed to help French or German companies at the expense of Britain.

That is never going to happen. Not only has Johnson repeatedly rejected such nonsense, but we have a hard line negotiator, David Frost who again has made it clear that it will never happen.

The EU are in cuckoo land at the moment. They cannot see that the majority of Brits would walk away tomorrow given half a chance.
 
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I voted remain, and hate the idea of leaving with the Tories dictating the terms. Say hello to little to no regulation, cuts to employee protections and a chainsaw taken to what remains of the welfare state.
Oh wow, wonderful ideas Goonie:clap:
 
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