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This is a huge topic with many branches, I don't expect to cover all of it right now, but this came up in another thread and I thought we should talk about it further:
Slaves for example got freedom at the expense of plantation owners freedom to have free labor. That freedom was fought for and the majority deemed it necessary to support the freedom of the slave over the corporate slaveship. Some view minimum wage as slavery. Slavery for most of history was a moral thing at first anyway. For instance instead of killing someone in war you could make them slaves. In the Bible Israel did this with one of their enemies, but it was disobedience, God wanted them dead not in servitude. They became a stumbling block later to Israel. Some poorer nations you can hire a slave to clean and cook in someones house in exchange for room and board, food, and medical coverage or whatever. So slavery is not always bad and many forms of slavery still exist today in most of the world. It was simply the slavery of African americans and the mistreatment of those slaves that give it a bad name. I don't think slaves should be property and I don't think they should be sold, or mistreated as in the hebrew slaves of egypt. But again when conquering a country if you ask them....do you want to be killed or do you want to build this pyramid for me free of charge? They will choose of course to build the pyramid. So again I will edit this OP in time as I get my resources together on this, but lets start here. Slavery is bad in the sense of owning someone else, or not allowing them to vote, or not paying them in some form, or in the sense of treating them harshly. But would be unusual for people not to think they are not a slave in some form or another, being employed is a form of slavery. Paying taxes is tribute to a government, you are in servitude for the exchange of military protection, police, firefighters, and roads. So you see my point, many people say the Bible is in error because it has slaves mentioned there, but they don't understand slaves still exist today, even in america. What do you think a nanny who happens to be hispanic is? (working for minimum wage or under the table), that is servitude.
Slaves for example got freedom at the expense of plantation owners freedom to have free labor. That freedom was fought for and the majority deemed it necessary to support the freedom of the slave over the corporate slaveship. Some view minimum wage as slavery. Slavery for most of history was a moral thing at first anyway. For instance instead of killing someone in war you could make them slaves. In the Bible Israel did this with one of their enemies, but it was disobedience, God wanted them dead not in servitude. They became a stumbling block later to Israel. Some poorer nations you can hire a slave to clean and cook in someones house in exchange for room and board, food, and medical coverage or whatever. So slavery is not always bad and many forms of slavery still exist today in most of the world. It was simply the slavery of African americans and the mistreatment of those slaves that give it a bad name. I don't think slaves should be property and I don't think they should be sold, or mistreated as in the hebrew slaves of egypt. But again when conquering a country if you ask them....do you want to be killed or do you want to build this pyramid for me free of charge? They will choose of course to build the pyramid. So again I will edit this OP in time as I get my resources together on this, but lets start here. Slavery is bad in the sense of owning someone else, or not allowing them to vote, or not paying them in some form, or in the sense of treating them harshly. But would be unusual for people not to think they are not a slave in some form or another, being employed is a form of slavery. Paying taxes is tribute to a government, you are in servitude for the exchange of military protection, police, firefighters, and roads. So you see my point, many people say the Bible is in error because it has slaves mentioned there, but they don't understand slaves still exist today, even in america. What do you think a nanny who happens to be hispanic is? (working for minimum wage or under the table), that is servitude.
