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Would you mind if the new neighbors came on your property, without you knowing why at first, walk on your lawn to remove fronds that had fallen from their side?
i wouldn't mind that. but i have a locked gate too. lol.
 
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When someone does something wrong towards us, we have a clear instruction:

27 “But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29 If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them.
Luke 6 NIV
i get beat to a pulp that way but i'll try.
 
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i wouldn't mind that. but i have a locked gate too. lol.
Interesting......so they couldnt even pick them up if they wanted to. So you believe that they purposely took them and threw them over the gate, right....similar to how you threw them back over?
 
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i have new neighbors i haven't met yet but today i noticed palm fronds in my yard after they mowed. i threw them back and put a 'no dumping' sign on fence. a friend said i should've called the police.
May I ask why your friend was of the opinion that calling the police was a good idea? What made you think that the palm fronds were dumped in your yard on purpose?
 
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i get beat to a pulp that way but i'll try.
Take your refuge in Christ, and really, I'd suggest do that first, such as by praying the prayer Christ gave us to pray each day (in Matthew chapter 6). Because we take refuge in Him, then things in the world don't have as much effect on us, or not for long. So, I'd pray that first, and more. Pray you be guided, and helped. Pray with faith, as Christ said we need in prayer in Mark chapter 11 -- believe that it will be given to you. You can believe when you realize you are praying for exactly what is God's stated will of us to do, to "love your neighbor as yourself". We can be confident when we pray for help to do what God has told us to do, that He will aid us in some good way. (and I'm speaking from experience on this)
 
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Interesting......so they couldnt even pick them up if they wanted to. So you believe that they purposely took them and threw them over the gate, right....similar to how you threw them back over?
that is correct. but it was windy. i could be wrong. but i don't think so. other windy days did not blow a frond to the middle of my front yard. it seemed to have been flung. but the more i think about it, it might be possible nature did it. but i accessed the situation and determined it was a deliberate act. that, coupled with the fact the man was mowing his yard, pointed in that direction.
 
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i would like to show a pic of the size of a fallen palm frond for those who don't know. somebody pointed it out here. i forget who. but here's a pic i found online that shows the size. note man holding it up.
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May I ask why your friend was of the opinion that calling the police was a good idea? What made you think that the palm fronds were dumped in your yard on purpose?
i don't know why my friend said it. she said it was her husband's advice. as far as your second question, i just put 2 and 2 together.
 
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Take your refuge in Christ, and really, I'd suggest do that first, such as by praying the prayer Christ gave us to pray each day (in Matthew chapter 6). Because we take refuge in Him, then things in the world don't have as much effect on us, or not for long. So, I'd pray that first, and more. Pray you be guided, and helped. Pray with faith, as Christ said we need in prayer in Mark chapter 11 -- believe that it will be given to you. You can believe when you realize you are praying for exactly what is God's stated will of us to do, to "love your neighbor as yourself". We can be confident when we pray for help to do what God has told us to do, that He will aid us in some good way. (and I'm speaking from experience on this)
i'll try.
 
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i would like to know why the Almighty would want us to be doormats.
Ah! I'm not a doormat when I forgive and am kind to someone that did a wrong towards me. I'm...doing what the Master, the one who is wiser than me, knows works best, for me and for them.

Another question that comes up: just because we forgive a wrong, doesn't mean we totally ignore it in all ways. Rather, we adjust so as to try to minimize the temptation that other person has, so that we don't tempt them again and again into that wrong. That's a part also. So, easy example: someone took my pencil and didn't give it back -- best response is to totally forgive them, but to keep my new pencil in a place not too easy to find and steal. So, I both remove the temptation and forgive them totally, fully. Both. And continue loving them, and relating to them. And my pencil is now safe.

So, if branches/fronds keep showing up in your yard, you'd eventually just let them know (because they may not even know), and perhaps you don't even care anymore because turns out you can make a compost pile, or the neighbor just said "please just throw it back over the fence" or such. Or, in my own house here, what I have to do is just drag the branches that seem to show up in my yard that don't look like it fell straight down, and just put it in my burn pile for our outdoor fire pit.
 
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maybe that neighbor intentionally made life miserable for you at the behest of the local gov. to get you to move. maybe they do that all the time. i think it's horrible. sounds like a wonderful geographic spot. you should move to florida. like weeki wachee, fla., or celebration fla. lots of nice waterfront living and WARM. lol.
I grew up in Orlando 6yrs of my child hood. I had migraine headaches every afternoon from the tropical rain storms turning into steam baths emanating from the streets and roofs; besides my wife and I cannot tolerate temps over 75 or so outside and I am an outside person and on the ground a LOT so prefer a climate which chiggers, sand fleas, many very toxic spiders and snakes, and all kinds of gross insects including fire ants do not thrive not to mention all of the extra viruses ad bacteria. FLA may be nice place to visit but .... My wife's parents here in MI are both still alive and have to be close to departing so.... And we absolutely love the significant change in seasons including the snow, ... I would love to increase my net spending worth thousands of dollars, but.... I have invested most of my adult contributions to society including risking my life multiple times in MI but on the other hand, I am not getting the message from our govt that they appreciated it. AL would be our optimal choice due to no taxation targeted at Sr. Cit. and their RE Taxes VERY tolerable but the climate where we would go-northern border area due to best friends there- is still very hot and the winters VERY cold-in winter-foot hills of Appalachian MTs- and I have never seen so many HUGE black widows, fire ants, and wasps and the terrain is so DULL and void of ANY good sailing lakes. If they lived in S AL I might consider Gulf Shores or the FLA pan handle but that seems to be Hurricane alley and I am NOT at all one fond of the ocean shore line with all of its stinky rotten kelp, Portugeese MOWs, jelly fish, sea urchins, and sharp sea shells. The salt seems to "enhance" the aroma oh, yeah, and make you sticky all over. We are looking at a state a bit farther north, IF we ever move again after this forced move! We are just getting too old to move and we are rotten sick of it but with both of her parents alive it won't be out of state soon. And I need a wide open larger lake w/o steep shoreline, NOT a dangerous river or dammed valley, around for a good sailing breeze.
 
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i would like to know why the Almighty would want us to be doormats.
Do you think the Almighty wants us jumping to conclusions about something like a palm frond ending up in our yard from our neighbor? Do you think the Almighty wants us going on to others property and posting snooty signs before actually talking to our neighbors?

I hear about stuff like this and am so thankful we don't have an HOA in our neighborhood.
 
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in my own house here, what I have to do is just drag the branches that seem to show up in my yard that don't look like it fell straight down, and just put it in my burn pile for our outdoor fire pit.
i can do that. i burn my branches too.
 
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I grew up in Orlando 6yrs of my child hood. I had migraine headaches every afternoon from the tropical rain storms turning into steam baths emanating from the streets and roofs; besides my wife and I cannot tolerate temps over 75 or so outside and I am an outside person and on the ground a LOT so prefer a climate which chiggers, sand fleas, many very toxic spiders and snakes, and all kinds of gross insects including fire ants do not thrive not to mention all of the extra viruses ad bacteria. FLA may be nice place to visit but .... My wife's parents here in MI are both still alive and have to be close to departing so.... And we absolutely love the significant change in seasons including the snow, ... I would love to increase my net spending worth thousands of dollars, but.... I have invested most of my adult contributions to society including risking my life multiple times in MI but on the other hand, I am not getting the message from our govt that they appreciated it. AL would be our optimal choice due to no taxation targeted at Sr. Cit. and their RE Taxes VERY tolerable but the climate where we would go-northern border area due to best friends there- is still very hot and the winters VERY cold-in winter-foot hills of Appalachian MTs- and I have never seen so many HUGE black widows, fire ants, and wasps and the terrain is so DULL and void of ANY good sailing lakes. If they lived in S AL I might consider Gulf Shores or the FLA pan handle but that seems to be Hurricane alley and I am NOT at all one fond of the ocean shore line with all of its stinky rotten kelp, Portugeese MOWs, jelly fish, sea urchins, and sharp sea shells. The salt seems to "enhance" the aroma oh, yeah, and make you sticky all over. We are looking at a state a bit farther north, IF we ever move again after this forced move! We are just getting too old to move and we are rotten sick of it but with both of her parents alive it won't be out of state soon. And I need a wide open larger lake w/o steep shoreline, NOT a dangerous river or dammed valley, around for a good sailing breeze.
i must be lucky then. never had those problems and i've lived in florida since i was 4. i'm in my 60s now. i lived in the panhandle of florida near destin for 30 years and never saw anything like what you described. wow. not even in miami. lol. but i have heard that up where you are people live longer. i don't know where i read that.
 
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Do you think the Almighty wants us jumping to conclusions about something like a palm frond ending up in our yard from our neighbor? Do you think the Almighty wants us going on to others property and posting snooty signs before actually talking to our neighbors?

I hear about stuff like this and am so thankful we don't have an HOA in our neighborhood.
i didn't go in their yard. i put a sign on their fence from my yard. i waved at them and tried to talk to them first but they didn't see me or ignored me and just went inside. that's when i put the sign up. they may have seen me put the fronds back over tho.

btw, i think you have been picking on me since the devil's horns thread. please stop.
 
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Ummm... only in weather that's too bad to be mowing the lawn in. They're not like maple leaves, it takes a lot of wind to get those things to go anywhere other than straight down.

I beg to differ grossly with you about those Maple leaves. NOT AT ALL the case here. You must have no wind there or a BIG privacy fence or natural wind blocker. Becaue they are RARELY ever flat but in a curled or spiraled form the wind grabs them and blows them ALL over the place; even picks them up in bunches and blows them OVER fences!
 
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i would like to know why the Almighty would want us to be doormats.
Remember, when considering what would Jesus do, breaking out the whips and trashing the place are on the list.

But we must be aware of time and place for that. And this isn't that time or place.
 
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Ummm... only in weather that's too bad to be mowing the lawn in. They're not like maple leaves, it takes a lot of wind to get those things to go anywhere other than straight down.
The op did say it was windy. And I was a firefighter in an area with lots of palm trees. I inspected them. I know how it works.
 
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