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Sure, it was just a coinkydink that it's on her birthday.
It's no wonder his parents sent him away to boarding school.

What's wrong with honoring her on her birthday?
 
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Why do you think I would have a better plan? Please answer with quotes and all the information surrounding why you ask, and in doing so you may find, you have no reason to ask me that.

What is “better” about the plan to remove fruit and vegetable standards for American children? How is his ‘plan’ better for them?
 
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You like "pre-exisiting conditions" and "lifetime coverage caps"?

Yes. It keep insurance rates down. If insurance is required to cover a condition that already exists, then it's no different than requiring an insurance company to give home owners insurance to someone after their house has already burned down; also a "pre-existing condition". Insurance companies then have to raise rates for everyone, causing it to be unaffordable for those with the lowest incomes, and a losing proposition for insurance companies, driving them out of business and decreasing competition between them.
 
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Great parenting advice there. So if kids don’t want to eat healthy food they should just be handed junk instead. Gosh I wonder what started the US obesity crisis. Must have been all that kale..

As for nutrition, if you really think eating healthy food doesn’t provide energy, then you should probably let the professional sports guys know that they should be feeding their stars burgers and pizza instead of lean meats and veg. I’m sure they’ll be surprised to hear it.

Parental advice? We're talking about school lunches here. I know of the push to get the government to take over the role of the parents these days, but the school cafeteria chef hasn't become our kid's parents just yet. Michelle Obama hasn't either.
 
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The Obamas will get the last laugh. They're 56 and follow healthy lifestyles. Trump is 74, thinks riding in a golf cart is exercise, and eats cheeseburgers in bed.

The truth has been seeping out despite Trump's best efforts to put his fingers in the dike. In fifteen years time, he will be dead. Any airports and roads named after him will revert back to their previous names (after all, part of I70 was renamed Mark McGwire Highway till they found out about the steroids...) The history books will have crowned him worst president in history, as future students read about him and wonder how their grandparents could have been so misled. The name "Trump" will have become synonymous with evil and corruption.

President and Mrs. Obama will direct a philanthropic foundation that helps people around the world and in our own country---and it will never get shut down for misuse of funds as Trump's was. The Obama girls will make a positive difference in the world.

They have much to look forward to when Trump is no longer president---and lucky them--they will live to see their vindication.
 
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Yes. It keep insurance rates down. If insurance is required to cover a condition that already exists, then it's no different than requiring an insurance company to give home owners insurance to someone after their house has already burned down; also a "pre-existing condition". Insurance companies then have to raise rates for everyone, causing it to be unaffordable for those with the lowest incomes, and a losing proposition for insurance companies, driving them out of business and decreasing competition between them.
What do you say to people who have an existing condition that was covered by their employee insurance then they lose their job, for whatever reason, and now they can't get affordable coverage from another insurance company because the condition occurred under their previous insurance?

That's exactly what many coal miners will go through if the ACH is repealed or coverage for pre-existing conditions is eliminated.
 
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The Obamas will get the last laugh. They're 56 and follow healthy lifestyles. Trump is 74, thinks riding in a golf cart is exercise, and eats cheeseburgers in bed.

The truth has been seeping out despite Trump's best efforts to put his fingers in the dike. In fifteen years time, he will be dead. Any airports and roads named after him will revert back to their previous names (after all, part of I70 was renamed Mark McGwire Highway till they found out about the steroids...) The history books will have crowned him worst president in history, as future students read about him and wonder how their grandparents could have been so misled. The name "Trump" will have become synonymous with evil and corruption.

President and Mrs. Obama will direct a philanthropic foundation that helps people around the world and in our own country---and it will never get shut down for misuse of funds as Trump's was. The Obama girls will make a positive difference in the world.

They have much to look forward to when Trump is no longer president---and lucky them--they will live to see their vindication.

So many predictions! How much do you charge for a reading?
 
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What do you say to people who have an existing condition that was covered by their employee insurance then they lose their job, for whatever reason, and now they can't get affordable coverage from another insurance company because the condition occurred under their previous insurance?

That's exactly what many coal miners will going through if the ACH is repealed or coverage for pre-existing conditions is elimenated.

If they already qualified for health insurance prior to their condition, then the qualification should carry over to their new plan.
 
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So many predictions! How much do you charge for a reading?
I have faith in the goodness and common sense of mankind. I have faith that our democracy will right itself after this tragic period of history.
 
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If they already qualified for health insurance prior to their condition, then the qualification should carry over to their new plan.
Only if they can return to work and then only if it's an employer-provided plan.

My sister-in-law got breast cancer and her husband's employer group plan covered it. A few years later he had a tumor and when the surgeon removed it he had a stroke that left him without speech and completely paralyzed on his left side.
Now they had no insurance. We tried every insurance company operating in our state to get her coverage. Every one of them said she had to be at least 10 yrs. clean of all cancer before they would cover her and even then it would be too expensive for them.
 
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I have faith in the goodness and common sense of mankind.

I have faith too. But it's not in the "goodness and common sense of mankind." Too many abortions labeled as a "woman's right", too much justification for human trafficking over our southern border, and too much hatred for the political Left (the party of unity, equality, love and tolerance) to have faith in that.

I have faith that our democracy will right itself after this tragic period of history.

Booming economy, improving border security, record-high stock market, record-low unemployment (even for minorities), and fewer abortions of the country's most vulnerable. Yeah, how tragic!
 
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Yes. It keep insurance rates down. If insurance is required to cover a condition that already exists, then it's no different than requiring an insurance company to give home owners insurance to someone after their house has already burned down; also a "pre-existing condition". Insurance companies then have to raise rates for everyone, causing it to be unaffordable for those with the lowest incomes, and a losing proposition for insurance companies, driving them out of business and decreasing competition between them.

You live a blessed life. I am so happy for you! I wish you could pass along your blessings to say the families of little children who exhaust their "lifetime coverage" caps for insurance (should the ACA be scrapped and lifetime caps and pre-existing conditions come roaring back into effect).

And the fact that you have a job that can NEVER BE TAKEN AWAY from you must be a balm to the soul! I am envious!

Congrats. Seriously...I'm impressed. And very jealous.
 
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You live a blessed life. I am so happy for you! I wish you could pass along your blessings to say the families of little children who exhaust their "lifetime coverage" caps for insurance (should the ACA be scrapped and lifetime caps and pre-existing conditions come roaring back into effect).

And the fact that you have a job that can NEVER BE TAKEN AWAY from you must be a balm to the soul! I am envious!

Congrats. Seriously...I'm impressed. And very jealous.

Accept the gift Jesus Christ has given you (eternal life) and you will blessed as well!
 
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I have faith too. But it's not in the "goodness and common sense of mankind." Too many abortions labeled as a "woman's right"

How do you control YOUR woman's body? I mean I assume you have a woman in your life, when she has body things, does she come to you for permission?

, too much justification for human trafficking over our southern border, and too much hatred for the political Left (the party of unity, equality, love and tolerance) to have faith in that.

I have to say I love this block of text. It makes it sound like you think the Left wants to eliminate control on the southern border so that there can be MORE human trafficking. That's sweet.

Booming economy

Which started after we got out of the 2007-8 Great Recession (thanks Obama! And a little to W who started the process).
 
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Accept the gift Jesus Christ has given you (eternal life) and you will blessed as well!

Eternal life and eternal employment? Will accepting Jesus cure cancer in children? Once the ACA is scrapped and we go back to lifetime caps and pre-existing conditions will we then require more people to be born again to survive childhood cancer?
 
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Eternal life and eternal employment? Will accepting Jesus cure cancer in children? Once the ACA is scrapped and we go back to lifetime caps and pre-existing conditions will we then require more people to be born again to survive childhood cancer?

We're required to be born again if we want to spend eternity in Heaven with God rather than suffering in Hell. As for the economic side of it, it's still true that when insurance companies are required to insure people regardless of their status, everyone's rates rise dramatically. Think about it from an insurer's point of view. If you were an insurer, you take people who are healthy and live healthy lives. You're betting that the person is going to stay that way for a long time in order to make it profitable to insure them. It also means you can be competitive by keeping their rates low.

The same reasoning goes for home insurers. That's why they make sure your home is in good condition without safety violations before insuring your house. Can you imagine how high your house insurance rate would be if the insurer was required to insure run-down houses, houses with serious flaws in the electrical wiring, and even houses that have already burned down? They couldn't possibly stay in business that way! So how can health insurers stay in business while charging reasonable rates? They can't. It makes no economic sense.
 
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Some of us still speak and write in ENGLISH...you know, the language that you folk used to speak...?


Are you saying there is something wrong with the English in the post you replied to, and if so, what?

Or are you now making accusations out of thin air that apply to nothing?
 
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What is “better” about the plan to remove fruit and vegetable standards for American children? How is his ‘plan’ better for them?

You quoted two random words and are trying to create a claim I made out of them. LOL!. You really cannot see what you are doing can you? Now go back and read the post again, and read what I asked for carefully. If your next reply doesn't show me why you are asking me that/why you think I would know that, I'm going to have to assume it's simply not going to happen, even after my asking what, 3 or 4 times now? :)

Very funny stuff here.
 
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As for the economic side of it, it's still true that when insurance companies are required to insure people regardless of their status, everyone's rates rise dramatically. Think about it from an insurer's point of view. If you were an insurer, you take people who are healthy and live healthy lives. You're betting that the person is going to stay that way for a long time in order to make it profitable to insure them. It also means you can be competitive by keeping their rates low.

Meanwhile, the cancer patients die because of their pre-existing conditions -- but the insurers don't lose money...

Don't you love it when everyone (who matters) wins?
 
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Meanwhile, the cancer patients die because of their pre-existing conditions -- but the insurers don't lose money...

Don't you love it when everyone (who matters) wins?

I take it you're not an insurer. But what if you in your profession were forced by the government to render whatever services you render, and to do it at whatever cost they tell you to do it, even if it means taking losses all the way toward being out of business? Would that benefit anyone in the long run?
 
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