I found the land of Havilah in Genesis (looking for geologists)

[createdtoworship]

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Genesis 2:11-12
"Now a river went out of Eden to water the garden, and from there it parted and became four riverheads. The name of the first is Pishon; it is the one which skirts the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold. And the gold of that land is good. Bdellium and the onyx stone are there."

Well I believe I have found it. I am not the first, but the last person to mention this place was 50 years ago and no mines have been started in the area. I need geologists. And prayer warriors to pray for some finances to fund this dig. This is important for Biblical reasons, this will reveal the REAL GARDEN OF EDEN LOCATION! I can't post it publicly my findings. But I have been fasting and I was reading in my devotions about the land of havilah in genesis, how there was lots of Gold, onyx and other precious stones. It just happens that I am a gold investor so it stuck out to me. I also realized that rockerfeller read the Bible about tar pits and invested in the first oil companies in the middle east. It just happens that because of sanctions most of the middle east is way behind on mining. They are sitting on the worlds best natural resources. But most people are not even looking in the right countries. Don't ask me how I found out, it was all God. I guess partly because I am in a fast right now, praying for victory spiritually and for other victories. So I realized people have been looking for this place for thousands of years literally, even companies have named themselves havilah. So I used alternative methods for finding the place, but several external witnesses made cross hairs right on a spot in the middle east. X marks the spot. But if you are interested, message me. (I won't partner with skeptics, I want it to be all christian, and only for christians). To help His body. Just so you know this is about charity, not me or you. If you are simply desiring money for a new house and car, this is not it. This is about funding ministries.

 

[blackribbon]

How are you going to get permits to dig or mine in a politically turbulent country right now? Do you have the credentials to do this, even if the area was to suddenly become safe and peaceful?

 

[dad]

Genesis 2:11-12
"Now a river went out of Eden to water the garden, and from there it parted and became four riverheads. The name of the first is Pishon; it is the one which skirts the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold. And the gold of that land is good. Bdellium and the onyx stone are there."

Well I believe I have found it. I am not the first, but the last person to mention this place was 50 years ago and no mines have been started in the area. I need geologists. And prayer warriors to pray for some finances to fund this dig. This is important for Biblical reasons, this will reveal the REAL GARDEN OF EDEN LOCATION! I can't post it publicly my findings. But I have been fasting and I was reading in my devotions about the land of havilah in genesis, how there was lots of Gold, onyx and other precious stones. It just happens that I am a gold investor so it stuck out to me. I also realized that rockerfeller read the Bible about tar pits and invested in the first oil companies in the middle east. It just happens that because of sanctions most of the middle east is way behind on mining. They are sitting on the worlds best natural resources. But most people are not even looking in the right countries. Don't ask me how I found out, it was all God. I guess partly because I am in a fast right now, praying for victory spiritually and for other victories. So I realized people have been looking for this place for thousands of years literally, even companies have named themselves havilah. So I used alternative methods for finding the place, but several external witnesses made cross hairs right on a spot in the middle east. X marks the spot. But if you are interested, message me. (I won't partner with skeptics, I want it to be all christian, and only for christians). To help His body.

I suspect that the continents separated so that we would not be looking for what you may have thought where you may think.

 

[Jonathan Walkerin]

This is important for Biblical reasons, this will reveal the REAL GARDEN OF EDEN LOCATION! I can't post it publicly my findings. But I have been fasting and I was reading in my devotions about the land of havilah in genesis, how there was lots of Gold, onyx and other precious stones.

Can`t go public, information gained by fasting and divine reasoning, support request of prayer warriors and money while alternative methods crown everything with X marking the spot. I fail to see how this worthy project would not get serious attention from industry giants.

If not, perhaps take a huge loan (if needed, I am sure people on these forums will support this generously) and start your own mining company. There should be plenty of unemployed coal workers...you can almost see the God`s hand guiding this.....

Then get rich, validate Bible teachings and donate much of the profits for the poor and church. Go for it.

 

[Jonathan Walkerin]

How are you going to get permits to dig or mine in a politically turbulent country right now? Do you have the credentials to do this, even if the area was to suddenly become safe and peaceful?

God will surely provide if people have faith.

 

[blackribbon]

God will surely provide if people have faith.

Assuming that this is God's desire. However, I suspect that God knew what he was doing when He hid Eden from man...a reason that still exists today.

Genesis 3:24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.

Christians are not called to find the Garden of Eden...or hidden physical treasures. We are called to tell others about Jesus and the salvation He offers to all.

 

[blackribbon]

nvm

 

[Jonathan Walkerin]

Assuming that this is God's desire. However, I suspect that God knew what he was doing when He hid Eden from man...a reason that still exists today.

Shocking. So you do not believe that OP is led by God in this issue ?

 

[blackribbon]

Shocking. So you do not believe that OP is led by God in this issue ?

No. I don't see finding Eden or physical treasures to be a Biblical based calling.

 

[Jonathan Walkerin]

No. I don't see finding Eden or physical treasures to be a Biblical based calling.

Shame. We might have another Ron Wyatt starting right here if he got a little support.

 

[Tolworth John]

Well I believe I have found it. I a

Only if the Bible lied about a global flood.

If it told the truth then the whole earth's surface was rearranged, as seen by over a mile in depth of water Bourne sedimentary rock.

 

[createdtoworship]

How are you going to get permits to dig or mine in a politically turbulent country right now? Do you have the credentials to do this, even if the area was to suddenly become safe and peaceful?

without letting the cat out of the bag I can simply say, God took care of this issue, quite nicely.

 

[createdtoworship]

Only if the Bible lied about a global flood.

If it told the truth then the whole earth's surface was rearranged, as seen by over a mile in depth of water Bourne sedimentary rock.

yes that is a factor I took very well into consideration and a factor of why most are missing what I believe to be the true area of havilah.

 

[createdtoworship]

I suspect that the continents separated so that we would not be looking for what you may have thought where you may think.

Yes! very true.

 

[createdtoworship]

Shame. We might have another Ron Wyatt starting right here if he got a little support.

not worried about it. I don't have a gold bug or anything. God is providing for all of our needs, and in another year I think we will be almost entirely debt free, including mortgage. So it's not a find that I need. I am an investor so the passage stuck out to me. So if it takes the rest of my life to develop, I am ok with that. I have lots of visions, this is not the only one, I don't have all my eggs in one basket. But imagine if you could be part of the process to find the original garden of eden. It's not about money, it's about apologetics. I read a wikipedia page on havilah, and it literally cited it was on 5 different countries. With that kind of detail, no one will ever find it. But as far as ron wyatt, he is on my list to contact regarding this, if no one steps in. I don't know who God want's involved. But I like ron wyatt. He get's a lot of criticism, but I like his heart. You can have famous archaologists help you and they will just take the find and run with it, all for the fame and glory.

 

[createdtoworship]

No. I don't see finding Eden or physical treasures to be a Biblical based calling.

so finding archeaological sites that confirm the Bible true is not a valuable calling? Again we are talking about the original garden of eden. I think historians would like to know, I know I would like to know. And I found it. I just can't say where. At least (I think) I found it. It was confirmed by three separate factors.

 

[createdtoworship]

anyone involved, I have questionaires (extensive religious questionaires), including questions like....what is the gospel, how are your finances, do you have any debt. Is this something that you need to get out of debt, how are you going to be beneficial to the expedition. I just watched a financial channel of a man who reopenned silver mines after they all closed, and founded 4 or 5 companies. He attributed all his success to "luck." But God is the one who raises people up and who humbles people. So while this is a financial thing, that is not the primary motive, the motive is to use the resources for ministry only, not to be a name it and claim it preacher who walks around in 200$ dollar shoes, and rolls royces. I originally thought of this as a financial thing, because that is my ministry. But I got rebuked by the Lord this week on that. I happened to be fasting for the new year right now, and I had a spiritual breakthrough regarding how God views finances. I started to believe the word faith teachers that said....if you follow God, if you have faith and obedience then the natural result of those things is God's blessing on your life, which naturally involves health and wealth. I was sold a lie. And I believed it. I was wrong. It is not God's primary purpose to bless us with things. Blessings in many ways are curses. You take a humble Godly man, give him a few million and you can literally see the godliness and humility flee from him in a matter of days and weeks. Riches are a curse. So anyway, I am not in a hurry. I realize that if I don't do it, I can relay the information to my kids who can take it from there. I am just taking a sample of the online community to see who wants in. I can take it to a news media and have this find done in a week. But I want to do it God's way. And Jesus as far as I know, was never in a hurry.

 

[createdtoworship]

by the way, I am not that smart. Anyone can find it. With God fear of the Lord is wisdom. Pray, and God will reveal. I am putting together my thesis with all the quotes from online that I found. And you can do it to, I encourage you to do your own research. We are in this together family. We can all enjoy of the fruits of the labor. If you think you found it, message me and I will tell you if it matches what I found.

 

[createdtoworship]

Assuming that this is God's desire. However, I suspect that God knew what he was doing when He hid Eden from man...a reason that still exists today.

Genesis 3:24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.

Christians are not called to find the Garden of Eden...or hidden physical treasures. We are called to tell others about Jesus and the salvation He offers to all.

why would God hide a garden? The tree of life is not there any more. Revelation says the trees of life will line the river flowing from the throne of God. I am not sure the tree of life is even on earth anymore. That was the only reason for banning them from the garden. Besides after the flood there would be no garden left. We would just know the strata etc of where it was. You can escavate the area, maybe find tools or bones of pre deluvian man. That would be awesome. During these days there were giants too. That would be cool to find a 15 foot human skeleton to confirm all these texts. From my research from a 16 century document, noah and his entire family were giants, which meant that all modern humans were larger at one point, and we evolved into smaller frames due to natural selection, we also evolved different skin tones, and varying degrees of melanin in the skin pigments. This is all micro evolution, and no, we did not evolve (macro evolution ) from apes. God created us man and women. fully formed the Bible says.

 

[createdtoworship]

There are actually three nations in the old testament that were rich in Gold. If someone was to follow my vein of thought, they could find all three. Again I know it's tempting to get a Gold bug. If that is the case don't bother. You will curse yourself. I know. I have been there. Thinking about wealth all day, will literally become your God. The love of money is the root of all evil. So this has to be bigger than yourself. You have to desire to use this stuff as a blessing not a personal curse. I am not talking about tithing ten percent I am thinking donating the majority of it. I have various projects theological projects I would like to fund, including some new translation projects that would be great. So this is not about "lets see how much money we can get." It's about the bigger picture of Christ's body. I saw a church that took all the medical bills of the congregation and offered lump sum payments to the insurance and debt collectors, settling on pennies on the dollar. That is honorable. What if this was a large enough find to start a company like that, that could get christians out of debt? I would also like to use the best scholars in the world, ten or twenty of them and translation a modern King james Bible based on majority text. There are dozens of projects out, but they are using modern language. I would simply like to redo the King James, using less wordage and more accuracy to the greek. The reason why the KJV was popular for thousands of years we because of the quality of the text. They had I think 60 scholars (best in the world). It's a beautiful text indeed. But unfortunately we now know many of the errors in the text, which the NKJV in the 80's corrected. But we need an update. This would be the most accurate word for word translation, based on majority texts to date. So I have lots of visions. All this takes resources. So that is why I got into investing to begin with. My and my family are making it ok, but I would like to fund some external projects.