You did not chose Me, I chose you.

[BNR32FAN]

My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. John 10:27&28

Yes those who presently follow will receive eternal life.

 

[renniks]

This issue has already been addressed by another poster in my recent post here.
Sarah was Abraham's half sister. So he technically was not lying.

They also both laughed when God told them they would have a son.

 

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The Pharisee was seeking self righteousness and exalting himself that was the message brother.

The prodigal son repented if his sin which is different from confession.

Yes, self righteousness without God's grace is the issue, but the Tax Collector cried out to God over his sinfulness by saying, "God have mercy on me a sinner." (Implying he is seeking forgiveness of his sins). The tax collector is not mindlessly referring to how he is a sinner in general. We are broken up by our sins before God in order to seek forgiveness over them with the Lord. That is what is clearly happening here.

 

[BNR32FAN]

The word "may" is not a guarantee.

"And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day." (John 6:40).​

The word "should" is not a guarantee.

"And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing,..." (John 6:39).​

The words may and should are not in the Greek text brother.

 

[bobsmename]

The word "may" is not a guarantee.

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My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. John 10:27&28

 

[renniks]

But none of these say that sin will not be forgiven if it is not confessed. I believe we have more sins than we can ever realize.

It's almost impossible for me to fathom that someone thinks they are sinless. Just the pride of believing that is a sin.

 

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The Pharisee was seeking self righteousness and exalting himself that was the message brother.

The prodigal son repented if his sin which is different from confession.

Sometimes we do not have to actually voice the actual name of the sin in order to be forgiven of that sin when we seek forgiveness with God by way of prayer. We could be thinking of that sin mentally and say, "God have mercy on me a sinner" as we seek forgiveness over our sin or sins. How so? Because God knows our thoughts, and our heart.

 

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It's almost impossible for me to fathom that someone thinks they are sinless. Just the pride of believing that is a sin.

Isaiah 26:10 says,
"Let grace be shown to the wicked, Yet he will not learn righteousness;..."

"Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous." (1 John 3:7).

 

[renniks]

I mean, a man can say he loves his wife, but if he does nothing to please her in any way, then he really does not love her. Action shows forth whether one's faith is the genuine and the real article vs. it being fake.

But no man ever showed love for his wife perfectly. We have all sinned and continue to sin.

 

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But no man ever showed love for his wife perfectly. We have all sinned and continue to sin.

But this kind of statement is not consistent with what Scripture says. See: Titus 2:11-12, 2 Corinthians 7:1, Galatians 5:24, Romans 8:13, 1 Peter 4:1-2, Matthew 5:8, and Hebrews 12:14, etc.

 

[bobsmename]

Yes those who presently follow will receive eternal life.

Its quite plainly written

 

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My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. John 10:27&28

I highlighted the part of the verse that sets forth the conditions of the kind of sheep that will never perish and not be snatched out His hand.

In fact, I am actually kind of surprised you included verse 27. This is verse is usually avoided in being quoted by Eternal Security or Belief Alone Proponents.

 

[renniks]

But this kind of statement is not consistent with what Scripture says. See: Titus 2:11-12, 2 Corinthians 7:1, Galatians 5:24, Romans 8:13, 1 Peter 4:1-2, Matthew 5:8, and Hebrews 12:14, etc.

Those are instructions to help us get better. Still doesn't make us perfect this side of heaven and even if they did, that would not save us, Christ's blood does.
If we kept every other commandment perfectly, (which no one ever did, even under the old law) we would still be sinful because sins are not just actions. We would still need righteousness imparted to us.

 

[bobsmename]

I highlighted the part of the verse that sets forth the conditions of the kind of sheep that will never perish and not be snatched out His hand.

In fact, I am actually kind of surprised you included verse 27. This is verse is usually avoided in being quoted by Eternal Security or Belief Alone Proponents.

Don't be surprised, Jesus is quite clear on the issue

 

[bobsmename]

The words may and should are not in the Greek text brother.

Does the Greek help? Can the Holy Spirit not work through English translations to show us what He wants us to see in scripture?

 

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The words may and should are not in the Greek text brother.

I believe God's Word is preserved for this generation today (Psalms 12:7) and it will stand forever (Isaiah 40:8) (1 Peter 1:25). For God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. Biblical Hebrew and Biblical Greek are dead languages. While I do not mind Hebrew and Greek studies, I do not believe they conflict with the English because the English was translated out of these languages. GOD perfectly knew how to translate the languages at Pentecost. God does not change.

 

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Don't be surprised, Jesus is quite clear on the issue

Jesus is describing sheep that FOLLOW Him (verse 27), and he is not talking about lazy, rebellious, and sinful sheep.

 

[bobsmename]

Jesus is describing sheep that FOLLOW Him (verse 27), and he is not talking about lazy, rebellious, and sinful sheep.

I doubt he is talking about those who do not practice what they preach either

 

[bobsmename]

Its kinda impossible to give God all the glory if you want to take some of the credit for attaining to Heaven, through whatever way that is

 

[Bible Highlighter]

I doubt he is talking about those who do not practice what they preach either

Agreed. But that does not mean your view of "sin and salvation" is not a contradiction. For you said that no saved believer will rape or commit child abuse or deny Christ, and yet you also say that believers can break other aspects of the Moral Law and still be saved. This is troublesome because God does condemn those who break the Moral Law within His Word (Matthew 5:22) (Matthew 5:28-30) (Matthew 6:15) (Matthew 12:37) (Matthew 25:31-46) (Luke 9:62) (1 John 3:15) (Galatians 5:19-21) (1 Corinthians 6:9-11) (Revelation 21:8). You want to hold to some aspect of Morality so as not to appear to be so bad, but then in other aspects of the Moral law, it is okay to break them (While under God's grace). Good luck with that. Personally, I would not want to be in your shoes come judgment day (if this is what you believe).