The Israeli Ethnic Cleansing of Palestinian Christians that nobody is talking about

[ArmenianJohn]

The Israeli Ethnic Cleansing of Palestinian Christians that nobody is talking about

So do we Christians care about this or are we content to let politics override the well-being of our Christian brethren?

 

[Phronema]

Thank you for posting this article. So many Americans don't know that this is going on, and blindly support Israel.

I'd also like to mention I'm certainly not antisemitic, but the treatment of the Palestinians could certainly be better.

 

[thecolorsblend]

The Israeli Ethnic Cleansing of Palestinian Christians that nobody is talking about

So do we Christians care about this or are we content to let politics override the well-being of our Christian brethren?

There's a type of Christian who would rather swallow glass than criticize Israel.

Sad, really.

 

[usexpat97]

That nobody's talking about?

I talk about it all the time. I alienate people over it.

 

[Mathetes66]

There's a type of Christian who would rather swallow glass than criticize Israel.

You lost all credibility with that one. Sad really.

 

[JackRT]

The Israeli Ethnic Cleansing of Palestinian Christians that nobody is talking about

So do we Christians care about this or are we content to let politics override the well-being of our Christian brethren?

So are we willing to overlook the ethnic cleansing of Palestinian Muslims? That has been going on for about 70 years.

 

[usexpat97]

You lost all credibility with that one. Sad really.

For making a true statement?

 

[usexpat97]

So are we willing to overlook the ethnic cleansing of Palestinian Muslims? That has been going on for about 70 years.

In a way...yes.

We cannot achieve world peace, solve world hunger in a day. This is a Christian forum. It's like speaking out against racism against black people. Just because you do, that in no way is intended to minimize the discrimination against Hispanics. You just choose to focus on one cause.

 

[Charlie24]

I certainly do feel sorry for the Christians.

But Palestine is also inhabited by Muslims that have sworn the annihilation of the Jews. They work toward that promise everyday.

The case for Israel is just as compelling as this article you presented.

Thank you for posting this article. So many Americans don't know that this is going on, and blindly support Israel.

I'd also like to mention I'm certainly not antisemitic, but the treatment of the Palestinians could certainly be better.

This is heartbreaking indeed. But this article is one of the results of a much larger picture.

Israel receives all the blame in the view of many, and this ought not be.

 

[Not David]

Thank you for posting this article. So many Americans don't know that this is going on, and blindly support Israel.

I'd also like to mention I'm certainly not antisemitic, but the treatment of the Palestinians could certainly be better.

According to Zionists not wanting an ethnostate for Israelites is antisemitic and suggesting "another Holocaust"

 

[dqhall]

The Israeli Ethnic Cleansing of Palestinian Christians that nobody is talking about

So do we Christians care about this or are we content to let politics override the well-being of our Christian brethren?

I have toured Israel and stayed in Nazareth before. Christians suffered hatred from both Muslims and Jews. In 1999 the Muslims of Nazareth rioted and smashed Christian car windshields. The Christians had crosses suspended from their rear view mirrors.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...azareth/e0edb7c6-34a3-45e1-98a0-2362d1499618/

Some Jews vandalized Christian property including church arson at Tabgha.

I met someone in Nazareth who told me many Christians left to go to the west. While they once had a Christian mayor, they have now have a Muslim mayor. Some Christians sold their shops and homes and left. I also met an Arab Christian who has an Israeli government job.

What ISIS did to Christians in Iraq and Syria is much worse than the anti-Christian hatred in Israel.

 

[Not David]

We should seek the return of Byzantine Palestine!

 

[JackRT]

Since the formation of the modern secular state of Israel there has been an "ethnic cleansing" of the Palestinians, both Muslim and Christian, that has grown in intensity over the decades. Actually in the early days of Israel I had huge admiration for the Jews but that has largely evaporated in the interim. I am reminded strongly of:

"Whoever fights monsters, should see to it that in the process he does not himself become a monster."
~~~ Friedrich Nietzsche

 

[dzheremi]

The fight for Palestinian freedom is not even a sectarian thing, and I don't appreciate that anyone in this thread or anywhere should try to make it one, either to excuse the continued horrific treatment on the part of Israel or to take the focus off of Palestinian Christians in particular when they're the entire point of the story in the OP. Dr. George Habash (not a Muslim) founded the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, for instance, and the residents of Beit Sahour (80% Christian) were among the first to pioneer tax resistance to the Israeli regime as means of non-violent resistance during the first Intifada. The Israeli government responded by jailing leaders and placing the entire town under a curfew for 42 days, during which international monitors (and food shipments, etc.) were blocked from entering the city, and the Israeli military simply went from house to house taking millions of dollars worth of property and money belonging to 350 families.

It almost recalls Fairuz's famous song on the matter (one of several by this Christian singer):

Once upon a time, here was a land and there were hands that built it up
they were building under the sun and under the wind
then there were houses and blossoming windows;
there were children with books in their hands.

Suddenly, one dark night,
hatred flooded the shadow of the houses,
the black hands stripped the doors
and the houses became without their owners
there became an obstacle
between the owners and their houses
an obstacle of thorns, fire and black hands.

+++

Israel gets all the blame because it's the Israeli army that is occupying Palestine, not the other way around. Palestine does not have a regular army that can occupy anywhere, because it's not a country, and it's not a country because Israel gets to be a country instead, and Israel gets to be a country instead because in Germany -- not Palestine -- Jews were killed en masse by a genocidal psychopath, and Europe (and the USA, to the extent that they have always backed Israel) would rather outsource the problems they created than actually do anything about them where they'd have to give up any of their territory for the Jews to have a state there (even in Russia, where the Jews do have their own oblast, it is inconveniently located, to put it very mildly), and wouldn't y'know it, there just so happened to be a preexisting political (not religious) philosophy founded by a Hungarian (not Palestinian) Jew that gave the western powers the idea that the Jews ought to be given a state in Palestine. And so they were.

 

[Phronema]

I certainly do feel sorry for the Christians.

But Palestine is also inhabited by Muslims that have sworn the annihilation of the Jews. They work toward that promise everyday.

The case for Israel is just as compelling as this article you presented.

This is heartbreaking indeed. But this article is one of the results of a much larger picture.

Israel receives all the blame in the view of many, and this ought not be.

I'd acknowledge the issue that the Muslims in Palestine have with the Jews, and I am even sympathetic toward the Jews in some situations regarding their security. On the other hand I don't think it's so much to ask that the Palestinians, both Christians and Muslims are treated better by the Israelis. One could also posit that the Israeli security issue is at least partly derived from the lack of a Palestinian state. It's a touchy subject, but I'm only asking that people are treated better as God has taught us all in the Scriptures, to include the Jews.

 

[Charlie24]

I'd acknowledge the issue that the Muslims in Palestine have with the Jews, and I am even sympathetic toward the Jews in some situations regarding their security. On the other hand I don't think it's so much to ask that the Palestinians, both Christians and Muslims are treated better by the Israelis. One could also posit that the Israeli security issue is at least partly derived from the lack of a Palestinian state. It's a touchy subject, but I'm only asking that people are treated better as God has taught us all in the Scriptures, to include the Jews.

But how do you treat someone who has sworn to kill you, and sets off car bombs, and suicide bombs, all with the intent to kill you?

How can you show favor to the Christians when they are mixed with the sworn killers?

I know it's a complicated situation, but all they can do is leave.

 

[Phronema]

According to Zionists not wanting an ethnostate for Israelites is antisemitic and suggesting "another Holocaust"

While I understand there are people who have that mindset I've never said anything about the dissolution of Israel.

 

[Phronema]

But how do you treat someone who has sworn to kill you, and sets off car bombs, and suicide bombs, all with the intent to kill you?

How can you show favor to the Christians when they are mixed with the sworn killers?

I know it's a complicated situation, but all they can do is leave.

The creation of a Palestinian state would be a move in the right direction I think.

The indiscriminate destruction of the people, and their cities certainly isn't the answer as it will only cause continued worsening anger, and higher tensions.

Leave? I'd never leave my home, and I wouldn't expect them to either.

 

[dzheremi]

But how do you treat someone who has sworn to kill you, and sets off car bombs, and suicide bombs, all with the intent to kill you?

How did Christ treat those who killed Him? That should be our model. And it's not like non-Muslims are only mistreated in Palestine. Look at Egypt, look at Iran, look at Turkey, look at Pakistan...lots of Muslim-majority nations mistreat their Christian minorities, to varying degrees depending on certain factors (e.g., I bet it is easier to be an Armenian Apostolic Christian in Iran than it is to be a former Muslim who has joined one of the house churches there).

Yet for some reason only in the case of Israel does this reality get trotted out as an excuse for the state to be a festering pile of garbage. Nobody says of Pakistan "It's justifiable that they treat Christians like crap because PM Modi of India introduced that law recently that angered Muslims by privileging non-Muslim minorities from Muslim-majority countries in applications for citizenship!"

How can you show favor to the Christians when they are mixed with the sworn killers?

Reasoned like a Young Turk on the eve of the genocides.

I know it's a complicated situation, but all they can do is leave.

For someone who recognizes it as a complicated situation, you sure are proposing an easy -- some might say intellectually lazy -- answer to it.

 

[Charlie24]

The creation of a Palestinian state would be a move in the right direction I think.

The indiscriminate destruction of the people, and their cities certainly isn't the answer as it will only cause continued worsening anger, and higher tensions.

Leave? I'd never leave my home, and I wouldn't expect them to either.

Palestine allowing Hamas to come in and fire missiles into Israel on a regular basis is not the answer either.