Why do Christians support Donald Trump?

[Mattin91]

If there are legitimate grounds for impeachment, and I believe there are, he should be impeached. He is incompetent and Wall Street has had record highs at different times. Unemployment numbers are mixed and Wall Street drops every time there is even vaguely bad news from China about the trade agreement.

I have no bias toward Democrats or Republicans.

 

[GodLovesCats]

The above -- Well said.

On another note: Just look at these impeachment hearing so far. Yes, yet another reason to support President Trump.

The impeachment inquiry is the most obvious sign yet that Trump does not deserve anyone's support.

 

[GodLovesCats]

The current President is not in charge. He is a figurehead.

Wrong. He is in charge. That is his job. He just sucks at doing it and does not want to be a decent man.

 

[Hazelelponi]

I had not heard this before.

It would make sense , of course, for a lot of globalist issues/ supporters/ to cry wolf to try to change the scales in their favor, without ever revealing their true motives, eh?

Yes. Between the TPA, the TPP and the TAA we would have lost American sovereignty over things such as immigration, power and water usage, emissions and more. They were literally about to stick us into an EU style agreement where we would have forfeited our sovereignty as a nation. These agreements would be being overseen and ruled by a handful of people that could have literally overruled our congress and our laws.

that was all bad... and the one man who opposed it all got voted into office.

They have worked tirelessly to unseat him and overturn the election ever since. It's truly frightening...

We aren't fighting in a fair fight - we are embroiled in an all out war for the sovereignty of our nation and most Americans seem absolutely blind to what's actually happening in point of fact, instead of acknowledging what this is actually about.

But people like Cruz who are dominionists, the Catholics who are like-minded desiring a one world government, the socialists and communists who feel they would likewise like to rule the world are all fighting against those who want nation centered governments under self rule with self determination..

It's the battle of the ages.. and most everyone's eyes are happily closed and care more about how things make them feeeeel.. as if feelings mean anything right now, with what battles we face.

 

[GodLovesCats]

Yes, so it appears - why? I asked if anything had gotten worse for her, or better, and she didn't say anything got worse, apparently just a motive of feelings? I don't know.

It appears the same in all the news - though nothing per se "got worse" than with any other president, and though things could have (likely) been a lot worse with another one this time round, it looks like just emotions and feelings, without basis.

My response was my feelings about the President do not depend on whether my life gets better or worse. There are millions of other Americans who can't get jobs - or at least not living wage jobs - so I would not change my stance on that issue even if finding work was not a problem for me personally.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Being led by feelings is a fail from the start. nuf said.

 

[GodLovesCats]

What are you talking about Hazel? No trade deal has ever made America less sovereign. The only way for a nation to not be sovereign anymore is to give up its government, territory, and military entirely.

 

[GodLovesCats]

Being led by feelings is a fail from the start. Enough said.

Apparently you ignore the facts my feelings are based on. We have feelings about facts.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

No. Emotions and feelings are unreliable and should not be followed.

 

[Hazelelponi]

What are you talking about Hazel? No trade deal has ever made America less sovereign. The only way for a nation to not be sovereign anymore is to give up its government, territory, and military entirely.

Read up about the TPA, the TPP, and the TAA...

Sessions spoke out openly against it, point of fact.

Trump promised to scrap it on day 1 of his presidency - fact.

Look at who the never Trumpers in government are, (Kerry, McCain etc) and who approved of the TPP, TPA, and TAA..

it's important you read all there is to read. It's why we've had nothing but battles since Trump took office.

If Clinton had been voted into office we'd be under these trade partnerships (an EU style agreement) right now.

 

[GodLovesCats]

None of that changes the definition of a nation as territory, sovereign government, and military.

There have been battles since Trump took office because he does not know how to work with Democrats.

 

[Hazelelponi]

None of that changes the definition of a nation as territory, sovereign government, and military.

Do you understand that a group in Brussels can declare for EU nations how many immigrants the various EU nations MUST by edict accept? How they can declare by edict how much electricity a given vacuum or tea pot can use in the private homes of EU partner nations?

These trade partnerships that the Obama Administration was setting up had the exact same wording as the EU agreement.. and that trade partnership, had we signed onto it all, wpuld have likewise dictated those same types of things by edict to us? Regardless of our laws or our own regulations .

It's VERY important.. the most important thing in a century to know about. I spent YEARS learning enough about it to know what it was all about. I didn't read a small article that can be debunked - I spent YEARS studying this one thing.

It would behoove you to do the same. Read all you can read, read the first draft partnerships themselves, read what all the various members of congress said on it, what proponents and opponents alike think and read until you actually understand it all..

and then, you can understand the gravity of the situation.

 

[GodLovesCats]

That still does not change the definition of a sovereign nation. We still are the sole owners of our territory in North America and the Pacific Ocean. Nothing will change that.

 

[Hazelelponi]

That still does not change the definition of a sovereign nation. We still are the sole owners of our territory in North America and the Pacific Ocean. Nothing will change that.

Our sovereignty extends to us being ruled by us..

Do you think it's great if a small group of people (a dozen or so) a half a world away decides for you what vacuum you must use?

Do you think a group of people who don't even live within our borders should decide how many immigrants we are mandated to accept as citizens this year? (subject to change at a moments notice - always - regardless of whether we can afford to accept them, or have the facilities to house them and help them, or not)

Or to decide for you what car you should drive - without anyone there to represent what's in your best interest?

Or do you believe, like the founders did, in government of the people, by the people and for the people?

If your not likeminded with our founding fathers, then I'm your enemy and say welcome to your new communist overlords... they wait only for your invitation - they'll never have mine.

 

[GodLovesCats]

No. Emotions and feelings are unreliable and should not be followed.

Wisdom is combining knowledge and feelings to make a decision. If you only use knowledge without your feelings, you are a fool. I learned this from a psychologist, so you can't tell me I am wrong.

 

[GodLovesCats]

Haxel, you are telling me territory is not part of the definition of a nation. Obviously, a nation begins with the territory. Learn the meaning of nation before you try to even imply it possible for our laws to come in from other parts of the world.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Haxel, you are telling me territory is not part of the definition of a nation. Obviously, a nation begins with the territory. Learn the meaning of nation before you try to even imply it possible for our laws to come in from other parts of the world.

Territory is part of what makes a nation a nation. Having clearly defined borders is definitely part of what it takes to be called a nation.

It's not the entirety of the meaning , however. And when you sign onto trade agreements that hand over control of aspects of government your indeed signing away your national sovereignty.

When we first became a nation the question was whether we were going to continue to be ruled by England, or whether we were going to self govern.

We chose self government - which was at the time an act of treason since we were a collection of English colonies under English rule.

Self government is a huge part of what makes us a sovereign nation, instead of being ruled by a government half a world away. The founding father's waged a war against their own government, and their own people for the right of self rule.

It's not time to sign it all away now, in the name of globalism, under the auspices of trade agreements that benefit only the power brokers.

Two paths are before us, and we must chose which path we will take.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

The impeachment inquiry is the most obvious sign yet that Trump does not deserve anyone's support.

2020 will prove how much support he has.

Heard today that due to these smoky impeachment hearings many independents are switching over to Trump.
They see through what's going on.
And it ain't pretty.
M-Bob

 

[GodLovesCats]

I have no reason to worry about any old Democrat signing bad trade deals. Hillary Clinton disagreed with the Democatic Party's official platform on the TPP. So we have to wait and see who wins the nomination in the spring before worrying about globalization.

Back to the topic: What has Donald Trump done that is worth having him lead the country when he is not able to behave like a patriotic adult and has very deficient leadership skills?

 

[GodLovesCats]

There is no smoke to see through. It is all due diligence to collect the facts and obey the Constitution.