If there was no death (of animals) before the Fall, then why would animals need to eat?

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Animals eat for the purpose of providing nutrients for the replenishment of energy stores, cellular rejuvenation, and so on. If an animal stops eating, metabolic processes no longer have the 'fuel' required to function and the animal eventually dies.

According to creationists there was no death before the Fall. If animals were no longer in danger of starving to death then why would there be a need to eat?
 

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Animals eat for the purpose of providing nutrients for the replenishment of energy stores, cellular rejuvenation, and so on. If an animal stops eating, metabolic processes no longer have the 'fuel' required to function and the animal eventually dies.

According to creationists there was no death before the Fall. If animals were no longer in danger of starving to death then why would there be a need to eat?
There are many logical fallacies in literal creationism.

For example, consider common accidents. If some man or animal would have body and head separated, it would have to stay alive, somehow. Even without hearts, brains, without breath. Bodies and all organs as such would be redundant completely.
 
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That applied ONLY to humans.

According to some creationists on this forum, it applies to animals too. There are creationists insisting there were no carnivores because there was no animals death.
 
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According to some creationists on this forum, it applies to animals too. There are creationists insisting there were no carnivores because there was no animals death.
That is ludicrous. Where does the text say there were no animal deaths? Nowhere.

If, as Rabbinic Judaism teaches, the fall happened just before sundown on the 6th day, there would not have been a lot of time to document what animals were all doing anyway.
 
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That is ludicrous. Where does the text say there were no animal deaths? Nowhere.

If, as Rabbinic Judaism teaches, the fall happened just before sundown on the 6th day, there would not have been a lot of time to document what animals were all doing anyway.
Rabbinic Judaism is a desperate attempt to keep judaism working after the temple was destroyed by the Messiah who ended judaism.

I would ignore their opinions as much as possible.
 
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Rabbinic Judaism is a desperate attempt to keep judaism working after the temple was destroyed by the Messiah who ended judaism.

I would ignore their opinions as much as possible.
And after a bizarre assertion like that, why should we pay any attention to yours?
 
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Got some creationist against creationist action in here.;)
 
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And after a bizarre assertion like that, why should we pay any attention to yours?
What is bizarre about it?

Jesus foretold it many times and in 70 AD Jerusalem and the temple was destroyed. It was the end Jesus was talking about in gospels.

Unbelieving Jews invented how to deny it: they created so called "rabbinic" judaism to compensate for the temple God destroyed and to compensate for the silence of God - the end of Jewish prophets.
 
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Animals eat for the purpose of providing nutrients for the replenishment of energy stores, cellular rejuvenation, and so on. If an animal stops eating, metabolic processes no longer have the 'fuel' required to function and the animal eventually dies.

According to creationists there was no death before the Fall. If animals were no longer in danger of starving to death then why would there be a need to eat?
While there are interesting questions, for this particular one, even the unusual organisms today on Earth that don't seem to have much of an age limit still have to of course take in food energy to...function, like making new leaves or moving around, etc.

If all organisms had no age limits (for instance if telomere loss didn't cause a limit, etc.), they would be still needing to eat nutrients.
 
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While there are interesting questions, for this particular one, even the unusual organisms today on Earth that don't seem to have much of an age limit still have to of course take in food energy to...function, like making new leaves or moving around, etc.

If all organisms had no age limits (for instance if telomere loss didn't cause a limit, etc.), they would be still needing to eat nutrients.
... and they would be still needing to keep their bodies intact and without injuries
 
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It does not say their were animal deaths nor does it say there weren’t animal death. The wage of sin is death but sin had not entered the world until the fall. Ge. 1:29-31 indicates man and all living things were going to be vegans. If that is correct no one would need to kill for food.
 
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It does not say their were animal deaths nor does it say there weren’t animal death. The wage of sin is death but sin had not entered the world until the fall. Ge. 1:29-31 indicates man and all living things were going to be vegans. If that is correct no one would need to kill for food.
The wage of sin is spiritual death.
 
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