"HOT MESS" Starting now homeless crackdown in Austin Texas

[Mountainmanbob]

Mankind will be filled with every kind of greed, depravity and wickedness. No understanding, love, mercy or fidelity.

God bless
In Christ, ted

Hi Ted

Will be or always has been?
M

 

[miamited]

Hi Ted

Will be or always has been?
M

Hi MM,

Both, but the forecast is that it will get worse as we march inexorably to the day of God's judgment. I believe that's what Paul and the account of the Revelation teach us.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

 

[98cwitr]

Coming soon to a town near you.

Tax payers get ready because, it is going to cost billions and billions and billions of dollars to take care of the homeless problem in the United States. These ones will require food, housing and a lot of money will be spent regarding their mental illness issues. We will be supporting most of these ones for the rest of their lives.

M-Bob

 

[Maria Billingsley]

It's everywhere.

Our home church in Baltimore ( I'm not from Baltimore) has 1 pastor with an outreach to the homeless right down the road from the church actually ( it's out the brush there someplace).. He has a heart for it, some get saved and later die or live on that way for that matter, but actually some now and then end up at church and move on in life.

It's a special calling to be a pastor and then go walk and preach among the homeless with consistency, besides some regular work. He put together a little team who goes out with him.

This is a program waiting for a leader. Please pass on to your Pastor.

 

[bèlla]

Look at Iceland. The rich does not complain of their higher tax rates. They don't immigrate to USA to have low tax. They appreciate the low crime rates, peace, safety, and friendliness of a culture that doesn't put too much value on money.

America is the destination most are seeking. They aren’t flocking to Iceland with all its merits. They want to come to the US.

Is Iceland in your future?

~Bella

 

[Dave G.]

This is a program waiting for a leader. Please pass on to your Pastor.

Thanks Maria, I'll see if I can get a link to the Baltimore church and send it off.

 

[Endeavourer]

No understanding, love, mercy or fidelity.

Enabling is not understanding, love, mercy or fidelity either.

Many of the "socialist" policies proposed provide money that is simply consumed without incentivizing changes; it's important to require some progression on a solution to their problem as part of the funding.

It has been my experience with helping the homeless that people who get to that situation are short on long term thinking/planning skills or are mentally ill. The cases where someone ends up homeless due to factors entirely outside of their control are the small minority of the cases.

When I became involved in a ministry that has contact with the homeless, I used to give funds to those who appeared to be victims of circumstances until I realized that they were simply consuming my funds while continuing to make very poor short term decisions that were keeping them in their same situation. Now my investments include personal intervention in helping them change. If they do not want my help with the intervention, then I save my monetary assistance for someone who does. Otherwise my funds have been used up with enabling rather than helping.

There are some really fabulous Christian shelters that provide an array of services to help the homeless climb out of their situation. I've learned that it's better to give to the shelters and let the professionals put the homeless on a path towards functionality than for me to fund their housing. Otherwise all I did was buy them a few months of housing but at the end they were no better off.

In my city it can take up to a week to get into a shelter. If a person leaves any of the several Christian shelters I'm familiar with for the streets again after getting in, then it's likely that her exit was a result of poor behaviors or poor decisions rather then there not being any help there for her.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Seems like rather than worrying about all of the ones coming into the United States illegally we should start to take care of our own homeless population which has proven to be --
"one hot mess".

I've worked with the homeless for many years.
Taking on this issue is going to take a lot of resources.

I'd say, in line with all Scripture says clearly, (including about helping the homeless, God's Way), that
the multitudinous ones bringing idolatry into the nation, without objection at all, are a much more severe and serious damaging the usa for a century, than all the homeless all together.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Who does the president answer to? Obey with shaking fear?

Presidents who try to be good often end up dead.

?? Jesus was perfectly good. How did He end up ?
(didn't He Say, Himself, that His followers would end up likewise, treated as He was treated? )

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

We are going to be more and more self-centered. Mankind will be filled with every kind of greed, depravity and wickedness. No understanding, love, mercy or fidelity.

Hopefully, that is actually, Scripture shows a total difference between the results of those who do what is right, living righteously, vs those who do wickedness, unrighteously...
So there is a gigantic difference between "We" (who are they), with nounderstanding, etc, vs the righteous we, who are ekklesia, born again ones, by the Father in heaven, set apart by Himself to Himself for His Own Purpose, righteously as He Says.

 

[Redwingfan9]

Austin Braces As Texas Officials Plan Crackdown On Homeless Encampments - The Appeal

In recent months, large encampments underneath overpasses and outside the Austin Resource Center for the Homeless, the city’s main downtown shelter, have become a flash point. Resident complaints and a from earlier this month—depicting a violent confrontation between a motorist and an allegedly aggressive panhandler—have sparked a backlash against the City Council’s decision to revise the ordinances. A newly formed PAC, Our Town Austin, has mentioned homelessness issues in its effort to recallthe mayor and some councilmembers. And Abbott has criticized the encampments as overcorrecting on homelessness at the expense of “public safety and common sense.”

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Seems like rather than worrying about all of the ones coming into the United States illegally we should start to take care of our own homeless population which has proven to be --
"one hot mess".

I've worked with the homeless for many years.
Taking on this issue is going to take a lot of resources.
M-Bob

If the state would start enforcing the law, the homeless problem would go away quickly. Instead, they let these people squat on land that isn't theirs and allow the problem to get worse and worse.

Beyond that, it seems the media only cares about the homeless when a Republican is President. The minute a Democrat becomes President the problem disappears from media coverage for 4-8 years.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

If the state would start enforcing the law, the homeless problem would go away quickly.

That is (or looks) so wrong at so many levels. (Contrary to God's Instructions, how to treat the homeless, etc)

 

[98cwitr]

That is (or looks) so wrong at so many levels. (Contrary to God's Instructions, how to treat the homeless, etc)

Not really. The State isn't the Church and the Church isn't the State. Therefore, the homeless problem is the Church's to address, assist, and fix.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Not really. The State isn't the Church and the Church isn't the State. Therefore, the homeless problem is the Church's to address, assist, and fix.

I'm pretty sure (or certain) it was/is someone(s) IN THE CHURCH who posted that the <State> Law should be enforced and that that would eliminate homelessness. (which is not possible all the time, and often results in worse conditions for those in power, as well as for the poor/// more oppression) ....

 

[Redwingfan9]

That is (or looks) so wrong at so many levels. (Contrary to God's Instructions, how to treat the homeless, etc)

God doesn't give the government the power to steal from citizens to pay for the homeless. At best he gives that charge to the church, to care for poor believers first.

 

[Endeavourer]

Hopefully, that is actually, Scripture shows a total difference between the results of those who do what is right, living righteously, vs those who do wickedness, unrighteously...
So there is a gigantic difference between "We" (who are they), with nounderstanding, etc, vs the righteous we, who are ekklesia, born again ones, by the Father in heaven, set apart by Himself to Himself for His Own Purpose, righteously as He Says.

I don't understand the policy you are advocating.

In your experience, what has helped guide the homeless towards a functional life?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I don't understand the policy you are advocating.

In your experience, what has helped guide the homeless towards a functional life?

What?
Instead,
In the Bible, what does it say to do for the homeless ?
(not in a social or other gospel, nor man's way as if better than God's Way, just in case -- God's Word is the Standard for Instruction/ Life)

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

God doesn't give the government the power to steal from citizens to pay for the homeless. At best he gives that charge to the church, to care for poor believers first.

Again,

That is (or looks) so wrong at so many levels. (Contrary to God's Instructions, how to treat the homeless, etc)

for everyone.

To claim or imply or state that the government needs the power to steal, is non-sequitur(does not apply in the current topic).
(notwithstanding the fact that the government does what it does, but for itself, not "to pay for the homeless" NOR to care for anyone but itself)

 

[Endeavourer]

Hopefully, that is actually, Scripture shows a total difference between the results of those who do what is right, living righteously, vs those who do wickedness, unrighteously...
So there is a gigantic difference between "We" (who are they), with nounderstanding, etc, vs the righteous we, who are ekklesia, born again ones, by the Father in heaven, set apart by Himself to Himself for His Own Purpose, righteously as He Says.

I don't understand the policy you are advocating.

In your experience, what has helped guide the homeless towards a functional life?

What?
Instead,
In the Bible, what does it say to do for the homeless ?
(not in a social or other gospel, nor man's way as if better than God's Way, just in case -- God's Word is the Standard for Instruction/ Life)

I still don't understand your answer to my question. What have you found to be the most effective method to help the homeless?

What do you feel the Bible says to do, have you put it to practice, and how has it worked out?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I still don't understand your answer to my question. What have you found to be the most effective method to help the homeless?

What do you feel the Bible says to do, have you put it to practice, and how has it worked out?

Don't "feel" what the Bible says to do.

We , as Jesus Says , are to hear His Voice, and follow Him (obey Him).

What they did in ACTS is still truth. Not common, but then Jesus is not commonly accepted, is He ? !

How does Jesus Say it works out ? (This is frequently revealed in the NT)