"HOT MESS" Starting now homeless crackdown in Austin Texas

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Austin Braces As Texas Officials Plan Crackdown On Homeless Encampments - The Appeal

In recent months, large encampments underneath overpasses and outside the Austin Resource Center for the Homeless, the city’s main downtown shelter, have become a flash point. Resident complaints and a from earlier this month—depicting a violent confrontation between a motorist and an allegedly aggressive panhandler—have sparked a backlash against the City Council’s decision to revise the ordinances. A newly formed PAC, Our Town Austin, has mentioned homelessness issues in its effort to recallthe mayor and some councilmembers. And Abbott has criticized the encampments as overcorrecting on homelessness at the expense of “public safety and common sense.”

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Seems like rather than worrying about all of the ones coming into the United States illegally we should start to take care of our own homeless population which has proven to be --
"one hot mess".

I've worked with the homeless for many years.
Taking on this issue is going to take a lot of resources.
M-Bob

 
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It's everywhere.

Our home church in Baltimore ( I'm not from Baltimore) has 1 pastor with an outreach to the homeless right down the road from the church actually ( it's out the brush there someplace).. He has a heart for it, some get saved and later die or live on that way for that matter, but actually some now and then end up at church and move on in life.

It's a special calling to be a pastor and then go walk and preach among the homeless with consistency, besides some regular work. He put together a little team who goes out with him.
 
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Coming soon to a town near you.

Tax payers get ready because, it is going to cost billions and billions and billions of dollars to take care of the homeless problem in the United States. These ones will require food, housing and a lot of money will be spent regarding their mental illness issues. We will be supporting most of these ones for the rest of their lives.

M-Bob
 
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It is a rough issue. Churches aren't going to solve it. Government is about the only hope for housing. People fall on hard times and sometimes need help. But there are others for whom this is a lifestyle. I don't know if they are able to be helped. And how legitimate is it to ruin the city for those who are working and trying to contribute to society and raise their families unmolested. Responsibility isn't just projected onto the homeless, but must be considered for all. Ruined lives just contribute to more ruin for everyone. Rescuing the homeless is a grand goal, but turning the cities over to them doesn't sound like much of an answer.
 
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Rescuing the homeless is a grand goal, but turning the cities over to them doesn't sound like much of an answer.

As also proven in Calif.
letting the homeless do their thing in public places is making our State dirty and dangerous.
And their encampments in canyons and back country are like living in another world.
A world straight from hell.

MB
 
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As also proven in Calif.
letting the homeless do their thing in public places is making our State dirty and dangerous.
And their encampments in canyons and back country are like living in another world.
A world straight from hell.

You sound like you would be quite happy if all the homeless decided to head for some nearby desert and commit suicide.

Very Christian attitude.
 
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You sound like you would be quite happy if all the homeless decided to head for some nearby desert and commit suicide.

Very Christian attitude.

Looks like you once again missed the message?
I've been working with the homeless for close to 50 years now. I have helped them with Bibles, food, employment, taken them to church and given them a lot of monies over the years.

And you?

And as I stated
our Fine Country now needs to dig up billions and billions of dollars to fight this plague.

Wish more paid attention.

M-Bob
 
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Coming soon to a town near you.

Tax payers get ready because, it is going to cost billions and billions and billions of dollars to take care of the homeless problem in the United States. These ones will require food, housing and a lot of money will be spent regarding their mental illness issues. We will be supporting most of these ones for the rest of their lives.

M-Bob


Billions and Billions of dollars are wasted in lack of efficiency / corruption in budget spending, particularly in the military.

Capitalizing on peoples fear of terrorists to justify unbelievably high cost of military projects. Would a $1,000 pencil make a difference over a 25c pencil?? I'm simply making an analogy of the incredibly wasteful practices in the military.

Same thing in the Healthcare industry....

That's A LOT of money going into the pockets of the far FEWER people who would probably spend their money abroad or save them in Swiss banks, Cayman islands...

America can probably eliminate poverty on their land and improve the economy at the same time. But they've decided not to or too blinded by greed to see it.


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Greetings,

I think the smoking gun in all of this is mental illness. There was a time I encountered depression every now and then. But the serious conditions were found in books and movies. I didn’t know a soul with them.

Being on this site has opened my eyes. The staggering numbers dealing with serious disorders blows my mind. I’ve been on the Internet over two decades. That wasn’t the norm. Something’s changed.

Mental illness is the elephant in the room. I don’t think its a huge concern for the government. And I’m uncertain if the church can handle it.

~Bella
 
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Billions and Billions of dollars are wasted in lack of efficiency / corruption in budget spending, particularly in the military.

Capitalizing on peoples fear of terrorists to justify unbelievably high cost of military projects. Would a $1,000 pencil make a difference over a 25c pencil?? I'm simply making an analogy of the incredibly wasteful practices in the military.

Same thing in the Healthcare industry....

That's A LOT of money going into the pockets of the far FEWER people who would probably spend their money abroad or save them in Swiss banks, Cayman islands...

America can probably eliminate poverty on their land and improve the economy at the same time. But they've decided not to or too blinded by greed to see it.


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Yes and a lot of waste and stealing also goes on in private enterprise.

Listed in the Bible
as good old sinful man.
Leave out the good.
Nothing New Under The Sun.
M-Bob
 
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Support for those in trouble - mental illness, etc isn't high on the government's priority list. We had a mental hospital near our old home, and I had a customer that worked with a very large association for these people. His heart would break everytime the government would cut the funding to these places, and when they had no place to go (Patients)? They would walk them up to the front gates and cut them loose. The government placed 'don't pick up hijackers' sign in front the hospital, and when the homeless would wander into the nearby city? The gangs would torment them, and most would end up in jail for criminal offenses. They were not capable of the life skills needed, and the hospital knew it. Yet, you had no funding to keep them, and so they were the prison's responsibility.

We worked with the local Homeless shelter for years, and most that came in were ordinary people down on their luck. You had young adults escaping irresponsible home lives. There were plenty of stories. We had a number of area churches that took turns housing people, because we didn't have enough funding to a permanent location until YEARS later. Sadly, it's never enough when society and the government don't see it as a priority.

I remember when the government took in some Temporary families after Katrina, and placed them in the housing units they had kicked the homeless out of in the mental hospital. That was the last time they allowed anyone to use them.

It is a hot mess that everyone likes to ignore, and complain about when they see it on the news.
 
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It is a hot mess that everyone likes to ignore, and complain about when they see it on the news.
Actually we know it's a "hot mess"
when it (finally) makes it to the news
day after day after day after day
in cities and cities and cities and cities.

Some will turn a blind eye
if I don't see it -- it's not true.

M-Bob
 
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Looks like you once again missed the message?
I've been working with the homeless for close to 50 years now. I have helped them with Bibles, food, employment, taken them to church and given them a lot of monies over the years.

And you?

And as I stated
our Fine Country now needs to dig up billions and billions of dollars to fight this plague.

Wish more paid attention.

M-Bob

Hi MM,

I have to agree with JW. While I applaud your work, whatever it was, to help the homeless, you'd honestly never understand that you're that kind and compassionate person by your posts. I also had a pretty similar understanding pop into my head when I read how tough and expensive and burdensome the problem of dealing with the homeless was going to be, according to your treatise, I couldn't help thinking about the movie 'Soylent Green'.

God bless,
In Christ, ted
 
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America can probably eliminate poverty on their land and improve the economy at the same time. But they've decided not to or too blinded by greed to see it.

There have been many officials with good intentions, and tried to help. The system is so big and bloated it's hard to get any job done effectively. Even some of the smallest aspects had so much red tape attached to them it's almost impossible to get it completed.

The problem is much bigger than people being blind or greedy. They started the War on Poverty back in 1964 with Johnson (LBJ), and problem has got worse instead of better in to many aspects. People rely on government to much with has a one size fits all mentality, and has no tools to tweek it a bit. It is sad.
 
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Yes and a lot of waste and stealing also goes on in private enterprise.

Listed in the Bible
as good old sinful man.
Leave out the good.
Nothing New Under The Sun.
M-Bob

America has gone way past the road of no return.

In a culture where nobody loves money, poverty does not exist. Look at Iceland. The rich does not complain of their higher tax rates. They don't immigrate to USA to have low tax. They appreciate the low crime rates, peace, safety, and friendliness of a culture that doesn't put too much value on money.
 
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you'd honestly never understand that you're that kind and compassionate person by your posts.


I also had a pretty similar understanding pop into my head when I read how tough and expensive and burdensome the problem of dealing with the homeless was going to be, according to your treatise, I couldn't help thinking about the movie 'Soylent Green'.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

As the Bible reminds me -- the one puffed up in themself said,
sure glad I'm not like those other people.

M
 
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Support for those in trouble - mental illness, etc isn't high on the government's priority list. We had a mental hospital near our old home, and I had a customer that worked with a very large association for these people.

The largest part of the problem is that taking care of others is always seen by some as 'socialist' policies. It's what Paul foretells in his opening words to the Roman believers. We are going to be more and more self-centered. Mankind will be filled with every kind of greed, depravity and wickedness. No understanding, love, mercy or fidelity.

God bless
In Christ, ted
 
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