“Me Too” comebacks????

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I'm going to say that - except for the most atrocious of crimes - I think a process of rehabilitation and restoration should be possible. That may not mean returning to exactly the situation one was in before the offence.

I thought this bit of the article was really telling:

"Employers are not quite prepared for how much work it takes to actually integrate someone safely, responsibly and with sensitivity and care,... Her team usually spends months meeting with all parties, including therapists who've assessed an offender's risk, and writing up an extensive plan for reintegration. And often, she says, when the clients read it, "They say, 'We don't have the capacity to deal with this,' or 'Well, we thought we wanted to do this but [...] never mind. It's too hard.'... the philosophical questions of who deserves redemption usually take a back seat to companies' more pragmatic concerns about their liability and reputation.

it's problematic, since those who are let go, obviously, don't just disappear. They're still among us — mostly not famous — and likely to land in a cubicle across town, next to someone else who has no idea."
 
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I'm going to say that - except for the most atrocious of crimes - I think a process of rehabilitation and restoration should be possible. That may not mean returning to exactly the situation one was in before the offence.

I thought this bit of the article was really telling:

"Employers are not quite prepared for how much work it takes to actually integrate someone safely, responsibly and with sensitivity and care,... Her team usually spends months meeting with all parties, including therapists who've assessed an offender's risk, and writing up an extensive plan for reintegration. And often, she says, when the clients read it, "They say, 'We don't have the capacity to deal with this,' or 'Well, we thought we wanted to do this but [...] never mind. It's too hard.'... the philosophical questions of who deserves redemption usually take a back seat to companies' more pragmatic concerns about their liability and reputation.

it's problematic, since those who are let go, obviously, don't just disappear. They're still among us — mostly not famous — and likely to land in a cubicle across town, next to someone else who has no idea."
Where are the quotes from Paidiski?
 
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It’s the most humourless thing to have to deal with when doing God’s work but it’s what He has put forth for us to deal with. And while I think that the “Me-Too” movement should keep doing what their doing, I agree that society and especially religious groups should focus on reconciliation for those inclined to do so. But the point remains ... to what terms are reconciliation set?

"We can't move to a culture that eliminates sexual violence if we're not dealing with how harm-doers become harm-doers and how they undo that," she says. "Leaving them in a heap on the side of the road is not the answer; allowing them to sneak back in through the back door [...] and acting like nothing happened [is not] the answer. There should be an expectation that there's real rehabilitation and that [offenders] have seen the light and want to make dramatic shifts in their behavior."
 
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And while I think that the “Me-Too” movement should keep doing what their doing,
Do you also support one of the movement's spokeswomen Alyssa Milano's cry for women to go on a sex strike should women not be given the full rights to sacrifice to Moloch.....I mean abort? :)
 
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Oh and I suppose that those who cheat on their husbands or wives should be given the death penalty as well?That is also categorized as "adultery" isn't it?
Indeed. That would be axiomatic.
Sex before marriage also carries the death sentence doesn't it since it is also "adultery".
No it is not. It is inappropriate contentia/fornication. Adultery is specifically a violation of marriage vows. No such vows exist to be broken in premarital sex.
 
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Indeed. That would be axiomatic.
Maniacal and psychopathic doctrine that Jesus wanted to do away with.
No it is not. It is inappropriate contentia/fornication. Adultery is specifically a violation of marriage vows. No such vows exist to be broken in premarital sex.
Here is a story asking if it is possible to make a comeback after someone is accused of sexual misconduct or assault.
In the OT adultery carried the death penalty

Why bother bringing up adultery then?It's not even sexual assault.
 
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Why bother bringing up adultery then?It's not even sexual assault.
Yes it is if the person being attacked is already married to someone else.
 
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Yes it is if the person being attacked is already married to someone else.

Really beside the point, there, though. The problem with rape isn't that the victim is married!
 
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Do you also support one of the movement's spokeswomen Alyssa Milano's cry for women to go on a sex strike should women not be given the full rights to sacrifice to Moloch.....I mean abort? :)
That is an offering to Molech to sacrifice children ... the same way that pride/usurption is expressed in Baal and serving two gods is expressed in Mammon.
In marriages and sex strikes I think the bible covers that except the part about taking turns sleeping in the wet spot. But that may be about equal submission too.
 
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That is an offering to Molech to sacrifice children ... the same way that pride/usurption is expressed in Baal and serving two gods is expressed in Mammon.
It's the same as abortion as the baby ends up dead.
In marriages and sex strikes I think the bible covers that except the part about taking turns sleeping in the wet spot. But that may be about equal submission too.
But do you support Alyssa Milano's nonsense?
(If you want to discuss further, you can use the PM option as this is getting off topic and I or you may get a penalty for it)
 
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It's the same as abortion as the baby ends up dead.

But do you support Alyssa Milano's nonsense?
(If you want to discuss further, you can use the PM option as this is getting off topic and I or you may get a penalty for it)
I don’t know who she is.
 
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Really beside the point, there, though. The problem with rape isn't that the victim is married!
My point is the bible draws a clean distinction between the married and the unmarried.
 
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My point is the bible draws a clean distinction between the married and the unmarried.

Not relevant in rape. Rape is equally bad whether the victim is married or unmarried. An unmarried person is not less violated by it.
 
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