The Master Locksmith, the unlimited Christ

[FineLinen]

"I am the Living One, I was dead, and now look I am alive for ever and ever! I hold the keys of death and hades."

Keys=

Keeper of keys has the power to open and shut.

Denotes power & authority.

Hades=

The realm of the dead.

Place of departed souls.

Questions? ? ?

1. Is the power and authority of Jesus Christ limited?

2. Is He limited to this present life?

3. Does the Holder of of the keys know how to operate the keys?

 

[Lazarus Short]

No, no and YES.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Jesus says those who are not for Him are against Him.

He tells those on Judgment Day "BE GONE from ME, I NEVER Knew you"...

Thus all the ones who promote repeatedly a false gospel like universalism....

 

[Lazarus Short]

Jesus says those who are not for Him are against Him.

He tells those on Judgment Day "BE GONE from ME, I NEVER Knew you"...

Thus all the ones who promote repeatedly a false gospel like universalism....

If you look at the context of the text you quoted, it is clear that those dismissed were guilty of following a WORKS program of salvation, not a program of universalism. The shorter the quote, the greater the chance of misapplication...

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

If you look at the context of the text you quoted, it is clear that those dismissed were guilty of following a WORKS program of salvation, not a program of universalism. The shorter the quote, the greater the chance of misapplication...

TORAH is LIGHT for our feet, direction from Yahuweh the Creator for all His children.
He denounces and rejects the so-called heresy of "a program of universalism"
in and through all of His Word , His Plan, His Purpose,
and the Words of Jesus to His sheep.

 

[Lazarus Short]

"...in and through all of His Word..."

Please tell me if you are restricting yourself to Torah, or if the entire Holy Bible, which version? Everything hinges on that.

 

[FineLinen]

"...in and through all of His Word..."

Please tell me if you are restricting yourself to Torah, or if the entire Holy Bible, which version? Everything hinges on that.

Dear Laz.: There is exactly one verse in all of our Father's utterances in Canon using the word "limited."

YOU have limited the Holy One of Israel.

The One who eats death by swallowing it down into His Zao Life is the Unlimited Christ who is not limited to this side of human despair in the slightest degree.

EVERY knee, every mouth, every dimension of the heavens, earth & underworld in harmonious vibrations of worship

 

[FineLinen]

“But here on this mountain, God-of-the-Angel-Armies
will throw a feast for all the people of the world,
A feast of the finest foods, a feast with vintage wines,
a feast of seven courses, a feast lavish with gourmet desserts.
And here on this mountain, God will banish
the pall of doom hanging over all peoples,
The shadow of doom darkening all nations.
Yes, he’ll banish death forever.
And God will wipe the tears from every face.
He’ll remove every sign of disgrace
From his people, wherever they are.
Yes! God says so!” -The Message-

Swallow= Bala=

To swallow down/ up.

To engulf.

To eat up.

To be ended.

Victory= neh’-tsakh=

Enduring victory.

Endurance in time/ continual.

Everlastingness.

Wipe away= Machah=

To wipe away/ to wipe out.

To obliterate/ blot out.

To exterminate.

Our God swallows up death in zao life!

 

[FineLinen]

“But here on this mountain, God-of-the-Angel-Armies will throw a feast for all the people of the world, A feast of the finest foods, a feast with vintage wines, a feast of seven courses, a feast lavish with gourmet desserts. And here on this mountain, God will banish the pall of doom hanging over all peoples, The shadow of doom darkening all nations. Yes, he’ll banish death forever. And God will wipe the tears from every face. He’ll remove every sign of disgrace From his people, wherever they are. Yes! God says so!” -The Message-

Please note the scope

All the people of the world>>>>doom hanging over all peoples>>>>doom darkening all nations>>>>tears from every face.

 

[1213]

...
1. Is the power and authority of Jesus Christ limited?
...

This much:

For, "He put all things in subjection under his feet." But when he says, "All things are put in subjection," it is evident that he is excepted who subjected all things to him. When all things have been subjected to him, then the Son will also himself be subjected to him who subjected all things to him, that God may be all in all.
1 Cor. 15:27-28

 

[FineLinen]

This much:

For, "He put all things in subjection under his feet." But when he says, "All things are put in subjection," it is evident that he is excepted who subjected all things to him. When all things have been subjected to him, then the Son will also himself be subjected to him who subjected all things to him, that God may be all in all.
1 Cor. 15:27-28

"Let me tell you something wonderful, a mystery I’ll probably never fully understand. We’re not all going to die—but we are all going to be changed. You hear a blast to end all blasts from a trumpet, and in the time that you look up and blink your eyes—it’s over. On signal from that trumpet from heaven, the dead will be up and out of their graves, beyond the reach of death, never to die again. At the same moment and in the same way, we’ll all be changed. In the resurrection scheme of things, this has to happen: everything perishable taken off the shelves and replaced by the imperishable, this mortal replaced by the immortal. Then the saying will come true:

Death swallowed by triumphant Life!
Who got the last word, oh, Death?
Oh, Death, who’s afraid of you now?

It was sin that made death so frightening and law-code guilt that gave sin its leverage, its destructive power. But now in a single victorious stroke of Life, all three—sin, guilt, death—are gone, the gift of our Master, Jesus Christ. Thank God!" -The Message-

 

[FineLinen]

This much:

For, "He put all things in subjection under his feet." But when he says, "All things are put in subjection," it is evident that he is excepted who subjected all things to him. When all things have been subjected to him, then the Son will also himself be subjected to him who subjected all things to him, that God may be all in all.
1 Cor. 15:27-28

Dear 1213: This much indeed!

ALL things in subjection.

EVERYTHING under His feet.

God ALL and ALL.

Jesus the Christ katargeos pas thanatos: every last element

 

[Saint Steven]

“But here on this mountain, God-of-the-Angel-Armies
will throw a feast for all the people of the world,
A feast of the finest foods, a feast with vintage wines,
a feast of seven courses, a feast lavish with gourmet desserts.
And here on this mountain, God will banish
the pall of doom hanging over all peoples,
The shadow of doom darkening all nations.
Yes, he’ll banish death forever.
And God will wipe the tears from every face.
He’ll remove every sign of disgrace
From his people, wherever they are.
Yes! God says so!” -The Message-

Swallow= Bala=

To swallow down/ up.

To engulf.

To eat up.

To be ended.

Victory= neh’-tsakh=

Enduring victory.

Endurance in time/ continual.

Everlastingness.

Wipe away= Machah=

To wipe away/ to wipe out.

To obliterate/ blot out.

To exterminate.

Our God swallows up death in zao life!

There's a picture of God's justice.
When we all get our just desserts. (gourmet desserts) Yum!
More wine!

 

[Saint Steven]

"If the popular theory of future endless torment were true, what sublime mockery would there be in placing poor wretches first upon earth, where are heard the merry shouts of careless children, the joyous song of birds, where above our heads "with constant kindly smile, the sleepless stars keep everlasting watch," where beneath our feet the delicate beauty of flowers of every tint gladdens the eye. What would have been thought of the propriety of placing a hundred bright and cheerful objects, suggestive of peace and happiness, in the anteroom to the torture chamber of the inquisition? It deserves, too, to be noted that man, the only animal that laughs, has of all animals, according to the popular theory, least cause to laugh." - Errors and Terrors of Blind Guides.

Christ Triumphant by Thomas Allin chapter three

 

[FineLinen]

"I am the Living One, I was dead, and now look I am alive for ever and ever! I hold the keys of death & hell."

All death! All hell!

Jesus the Christ holds the keys of them all, the radical all of thanantos & hell's.

 

[FineLinen]

"I am the Living One, I was dead, and now look I am alive for ever and ever! I hold the keys of death & hell."

All death! All hell!

Jesus the Christ holds the keys of them all, the radical all of thanantos & hell's.

Questions

Therefore, let me ask, on what authority is the common doctrine taught, unknown to antiquity, unknown to Scripture?

Who commissioned any to teach, that to die is to pass into a state beyond the reach of Christ's grace?

If so, why are we told, so significantly, the story of Christ's evangelizing the spirits in prison?

Why are those especially selected for evangelisation who had been in life disobedient, and had so died?

Why does the Apostle tell us that the Gospel was preached even to the dead ? (1 Peter 4:6) a fact obscured in the authorized version.

Why these repeated and exultant questions, "O grave where is your victory?" "O death where is your sting?"

Why has the New Testament, with such varied illustrations, pressed on us this fact (as of special moment) that Christ has destroyed death, if death is ever to put a stop to His power to save?

How could Christ be the Conqueror of death, if death can in any case reduce Him to impotence? Can death disarm its victor?

Who shall limit this truth in its operation? -Christ Triumphant-

 

[Der Alte]

Greek has always been the language of the Eastern Orthodox Greek church. They know more than any unknown UR writer the meaning of "aionios" and "Kolasis."

THE EASTERN / GREEK ORTHODOX BIBI.E EOB) — NEW TESTAMENT 96
Matthew 25:46 Then he will answer them. saying ‘Amen. I tell you: a much as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.' “These [ones on the left] will go away into eternal punishment.[κολασιν αιωνιον/kolasin aionion] but the righteous into eternal 1ife.

Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world, his invisible things are clearly seen. They perceived through created things, even his everlasting [τε αιδιος/te aidios] power and divinity.

1 Timothy 1:17 Now, to the eternal [των αιωνων/ton aionon] King. immortal. invisible, to God who alone is wise, be honor and glory unto ages of ages. Amen.

https://azbyka.ru/otechnik/books/original/18204/18204-New-Testament-(The-Eastern-Greek-Orthodox-Bible).pdf​

 

[Saint Steven]

Some time ago the following questions were presented to me. "Why preach and teach the Gospel if all are to be saved ultimately? There is no need to witness for they will be saved someday, someway, somewhere - right?" W-R-O-N-G! First, the Christian life is so rich and beautiful and worthwhile that it would be the only life to live, even if there were no hereafter. Ask those who have truly known and experienced Christ over a period of years. Was it not Dr. A. J. Gordon who met an old crippled man on the street, and asked him why, with all his handicap, his face was nevertheless so bright and shining? And the old man answered, "The devil has no happy old men!"

Furthermore, God will never save your loved ones, your neighbors, or any other person who has ever lived or who ever shall live apart from a MEANS, an INSTRUMENT THROUGH WHICH TO REACH THEM. And WE are that instrument! God declares to His elect in Isa. 49:6, "I will also GIVE YOU for a light to the nations, that YOU may BE MY SALVATION unto the end of the earth." The method by which God causes men to believe is revealed in Rom. 10:14-15. "How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not BELIEVED? and how shall they BELIEVE in Him of whom they have not HEARD? and how shall they HEAR without a PREACHER? and how shall they PREACH except they be SENT?" Does the salvation of all men negate this procedure? NO WAY! It only intensifies it! The simple truth is that God purposes to save all men. The means by which He shall accomplish this is A PEOPLE, a ROYAL PRIESTHOOD, the SONS OF GOD, who are made ONE with the PRIESTLY MINISTRY OF JESUS the great HIGH PRIEST, to intercede, witness, speak, exhort, warn, entreat, preach, and proclaim the redemptive power of the Christ until this ministry conquers all men for God.

Source: The Savior of the World, by J. Preston Eby
Kindgdom Bible Studies Savior of the World Series Part 1

 

[Der Alte]

...

Some time ago the following questions were presented to me. "Why preach and teach the Gospel if all are to be saved ultimately? There is no need to witness for they will be saved someday, someway, somewhere - right?" W-R-O-N-G! First, the Christian life is so rich and beautiful and worthwhile that it would be the only life to live, even if there were no hereafter. Ask those who have truly known and experienced Christ over a period of years. Was it not Dr. A. J. Gordon who met an old crippled man on the street, and asked him why, with all his handicap, his face was nevertheless so bright and shining? And the old man answered, "The devil has no happy old men!"
Furthermore, God will never save your loved ones, your neighbors, or any other person who has ever lived or who ever shall live apart from a MEANS, an INSTRUMENT THROUGH WHICH TO REACH THEM. And WE are that instrument! God declares to His elect in Isa. 49:6, "I will also GIVE YOU for a light to the nations, that YOU may BE MY SALVATION unto the end of the earth." The method by which God causes men to believe is revealed in Rom. 10:14-15. "How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not BELIEVED? and how shall they BELIEVE in Him of whom they have not HEARD? and how shall they HEAR without a PREACHER? and how shall they PREACH except they be SENT?" Does the salvation of all men negate this procedure? NO WAY! It only intensifies it! The simple truth is that God purposes to save all men. The means by which He shall accomplish this is A PEOPLE, a ROYAL PRIESTHOOD, the SONS OF GOD, who are made ONE with the PRIESTLY MINISTRY OF JESUS the great HIGH PRIEST, to intercede, witness, speak, exhort, warn, entreat, preach, and proclaim the redemptive power of the Christ until this ministry conquers all men for God.
Source: The Savior of the World, by J. Preston Eby...

Most unfortunate that most UR-ites cannot bring their own thoughts and understanding to the discussion. It seems that all most of them can do is copy paste canned arguments from their UR writers.
At his website, the guy quoted above, J. Preston Eby, neither states nor demonstrates any scholarly knowledge of Hebrew or koine Greek. Everything quoted is Eby's unsupported opinion.

 

[FineLinen]

Some time ago the following questions were presented to me. "Why preach and teach the Gospel if all are to be saved ultimately? There is no need to witness for they will be saved someday, someway, somewhere - right?" W-R-O-N-G! First, the Christian life is so rich and beautiful and worthwhile that it would be the only life to live, even if there were no hereafter. Ask those who have truly known and experienced Christ over a period of years. Was it not Dr. A. J. Gordon who met an old crippled man on the street, and asked him why, with all his handicap, his face was nevertheless so bright and shining? And the old man answered, "The devil has no happy old men!"

Furthermore, God will never save your loved ones, your neighbors, or any other person who has ever lived or who ever shall live apart from a MEANS, an INSTRUMENT THROUGH WHICH TO REACH THEM. And WE are that instrument! God declares to His elect in Isa. 49:6, "I will also GIVE YOU for a light to the nations, that YOU may BE MY SALVATION unto the end of the earth." The method by which God causes men to believe is revealed in Rom. 10:14-15. "How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not BELIEVED? and how shall they BELIEVE in Him of whom they have not HEARD? and how shall they HEAR without a PREACHER? and how shall they PREACH except they be SENT?" Does the salvation of all men negate this procedure? NO WAY! It only intensifies it! The simple truth is that God purposes to save all men. The means by which He shall accomplish this is A PEOPLE, a ROYAL PRIESTHOOD, the SONS OF GOD, who are made ONE with the PRIESTLY MINISTRY OF JESUS the great HIGH PRIEST, to intercede, witness, speak, exhort, warn, entreat, preach, and proclaim the redemptive power of the Christ until this ministry conquers all men for God.

Source: The Savior of the World, by J. Preston Eby
Kindgdom Bible Studies Savior of the World Series Part 1

Dear Steve with Saint in the title.

No matter how much we know, or think we know, being made by at-one-ment a priest of Him, is the ultimate expression of the Saviour of all mankind to a broken and bruised world of hurt.

We proclaim a triumphant Lord of all !