How do you feel about climate change? Is it affecting our world negatively?

[ilovejcsog]

Some of you are going to get booted, cut it out.

 

[Cimorene]

its not the internet . There’s been a dumbing down of what students are expected to know by a certain age. I was actually shocked to my core when I realized that a lot of people have trouble reading the New York Times . And that was supposed to written at an 8th grade level . Most modern kids can’t even read a Victorian novel like from dickens or Thackeray or one of those classics . That also surprised me as I was reading those at around age 11 or earlier. (And I’ll fess up now. it was reading Gulliver’s Travels by Jonathan Swift at age ten that caused me to think very hard about what I believed about religion and why )

The internet has absolutely been a major factor in misinformation being disseminated & consumed! I do think my generation is learning to filter out sources & not just accept what we read without any evaluation or examination.

There's been a dumbing down in culture; it's certainly not specific to youth. I've been shocked to the core at the number of older people who refuse to read any newspaper bc they believe anything critical of their political tribe or in discordance with their beliefs is therefore "fake news." I've definitely seen much more falsities about science from older people than from ones my own age.

I've been reading the NYT regularly for years along with other papers from around the world. For students the subscription is either super cheap or totally free. I've written about several my favourite classic books in the thread about books on this thread. I joined here when I was in grade 9. I write in text on here a lot as do a lot of people but we do know how to properly spell words, whereas you frequently see adults misspell them.

On this topic specifically I do think there's been more effort in modern times to educate about climate change & its ramifications. Obv the level and quality of education varies by school but I've never met anybody young IRL who was flippant about it or thought it was a "hoax." It has been extensively covered for yrs in my science classes. There's a whole thread on here where ppl most over 40 are giggling about how they think it's dumb that Democrats have discussed how meat consumption impacts the environment. When that's literally on HS level science exams....

 

[miggles]

i'd like to elaborate on what has been said. the mission of the globalists is to scare us into depending on them for "solutions." that makes us slaves. the dumber we are, the more easily scared we will get. that's why they need to dumb down the new generation.

 

[Cimorene]

You are right you're not. I believe very little of what I read in the news as I read very little news. I make my own decisions by what I see around me and smell and deduce. I am not blind to all the damage we have done to the air and water and that is just the tip of the iceberg. Just living 60 years ago and on has proven what society has done. No more clean air or water in comparison. The roads now, asphalt have increased temps beyond the country life I used to see. You underestimate the elders. They are smarter than you think. In a nutshell, I lived the difference between then and now.

I don't underestimate elders anymore than elders underestimate youth. In all serious, I don't underestimate their intelligence at all. I do think every generation has its own challenges. Where do you get your information on climate change and on current events? There's much that isn't visible or perceptible to the naked human eye or senses but still very much real. You could live to be as old as Methuselah & still have much you've never personally experienced or witnessed. In some instances it's fine to just shape your understanding of things based on what you personally fee and feel, in others it's not.

 

[klutedavid]

i'd like to elaborate on what has been said. the mission of the globalists is to scare us into depending on them for "solutions." that makes us slaves. the dumber we are, the more easily scared we will get. that's why they need to dumb down the new generation.

That may be true but the temperature is still rising regardless of what they want you to think.

 

[Cimorene]

if you could just list the countries who are shaking their heads, please. not links. thx.

Why couldn't you just click on his link? I'll copy and paste for you.

Parties
As of May 2019, 194 states and the European Union have signed the Agreement. 185 states and the EU, representing more than 88% of global greenhouse gas emissions, have ratified or acceded to the Agreement, including China, the United States (who is intent on leaving) and India, the countries with three of the four largest greenhouse gas emissions of the UNFCC members total (about 42% together).[12][13][14] All 197 UNFCCC members have either signed or acceded to the Paris Agreement.

Party[12] Percentage of greenhouse
gases for ratification[5] Date of signature Date of ratification, acceptance, approval, or accession Date of entry into force
Afghanistan 0.05% 22 April 2016 15 February 2017 17 March 2017
Albania 0.02% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Algeria 0.30% 22 April 2016 20 October 2016 19 November 2016
Andorra 0.00% 22 April 2016 24 March 2017 23 April 2017
Antigua and Barbuda 0.00% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Argentina 0.89% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Armenia 0.02% 20 September 2016 23 March 2017 22 April 2017
Australia 1.46% 22 April 2016 9 November 2016 9 December 2016
Austria[a] 0.21% 22 April 2016 5 October 2016 4 November 2016
Azerbaijan 0.13% 22 April 2016 9 January 2017 8 February 2017
Bahamas, The 0.00% 22 April 2016 22 August 2016 4 November 2016
Bahrain 0.06% 22 April 2016 23 December 2016 22 January 2017
Bangladesh 0.27% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Barbados 0.01% 22 April 2016 22 April 2016 4 November 2016
Belarus 0.24% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Belgium[a] 0.32% 22 April 2016 6 April 2017 6 May 2017
Belize 0.00% 22 April 2016 22 April 2016 4 November 2016
Benin 0.02% 22 April 2016 31 October 2016 30 November 2016
Bhutan 0.00% 22 April 2016 19 September 2017 19 October 2017
Bolivia 0.12% 22 April 2016 5 October 2016 4 November 2016
Bosnia and Herzegovina 0.08% 22 April 2016 16 March 2017 15 April 2017
Botswana 0.02% 22 April 2016 11 November 2016 11 December 2016
Brazil 2.48% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Brunei N/A 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Bulgaria[a] 0.15% 22 April 2016 29 November 2016 29 December 2016
Burkina Faso 0.06% 22 April 2016 11 November 2016 11 December 2016
Burundi 0.07% 22 April 2016 17 January 2018 16 February 2018
Cambodia 0.03% 22 April 2016 6 February 2017 8 March 2017
Cameroon 0.45% 22 April 2016 29 July 2016 4 November 2016
Canada 1.95% 22 April 2016 5 October 2016 4 November 2016
Cape Verde 0.00% 22 April 2016 21 September 2017 21 October 2017
Central African Republic 0.01% 22 April 2016 11 October 2016 10 November 2016
Chad 0.06% 22 April 2016 12 January 2017 11 February 2017
Chile[15] 0.25% 20 September 2016 10 February 2017 12 March 2017
China[c] 20.09% 22 April 2016 3 September 2016[13] 4 November 2016
Colombia 0.41% 22 April 2016 12 July 2018 11 August 2018
Comoros 0.00% 22 April 2016 23 November 2016 23 December 2016
Congo, Democratic Republic of the 0.06% 22 April 2016 13 December 2017 12 January 2018
Congo, Republic of the 0.01% 22 April 2016 21 April 2017 21 May 2017
Cook Islands 0.00% 24 June 2016 1 September 2016 4 November 2016
Costa Rica 0.03% 22 April 2016 13 October 2016 12 November 2016
Côte d'Ivoire 0.73% 22 April 2016 25 October 2016 24 November 2016
Croatia[a] 0.07% 22 April 2016 24 May 2017 23 June 2017
Cuba 0.10% 22 April 2016 28 December 2016 27 January 2017
Cyprus[a] 0.02% 22 April 2016 4 January 2017 3 February 2017
Czech Republic[a] 0.34% 22 April 2016 5 October 2017 4 November 2017
Denmark[d][a] 0.15% 22 April 2016 1 November 2016 1 December 2016
Djibouti 0.00% 22 April 2016 11 November 2016 11 December 2016
Dominica 0.00% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Dominican Republic 0.07% 22 April 2016 21 September 2017 21 October 2017
East Timor 0.00% 22 April 2016 16 August 2017 15 September 2017
Ecuador 0.67% 26 July 2016 20 September 2017 20 October 2017
Egypt 0.52% 22 April 2016 29 June 2017 29 July 2017
El Salvador 0.03% 22 April 2016 27 March 2017 26 April 2017
Equatorial Guinea N/A 22 April 2016 30 October 2018 29 November 2018
Estonia[a] 0.06% 22 April 2016 4 November 2016 4 December 2016
Ethiopia 0.13% 22 April 2016 9 March 2017 8 April 2017
European Union N/A[e] 22 April 2016 5 October 2016 4 November 2016
Fiji 0.01% 22 April 2016 22 April 2016 4 November 2016
Finland[a] 0.17% 22 April 2016 14 November 2016 14 December 2016
France[a] 1.34% 22 April 2016 5 October 2016 4 November 2016
Gabon 0.02% 22 April 2016 2 November 2016 2 December 2016
Gambia, The 0.05% 26 April 2016 7 November 2016 7 December 2016
Georgia 0.03% 22 April 2016 8 May 2017 7 June 2017
Germany[a] 2.56% 22 April 2016 5 October 2016 4 November 2016
Ghana 0.09% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Greece[a] 0.28% 22 April 2016 14 October 2016 13 November 2016
Grenada 0.00% 22 April 2016 22 April 2016 4 November 2016
Guatemala 0.04% 22 April 2016 25 January 2017 24 February 2017
Guinea 0.01% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Guinea-Bissau 0.02% 22 April 2016 22 October 2018 21 November 2018
Guyana 0.01% 22 April 2016 20 May 2016 4 November 2016
Haiti 0.02% 22 April 2016 31 July 2017 30 August 2017
Honduras 0.03% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Hungary[a] 0.15% 22 April 2016 5 October 2016 4 November 2016
Iceland 0.01% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
India 4.10% 22 April 2016 2 October 2016 4 November 2016
Indonesia 1.49% 22 April 2016 31 October 2016 30 November 2016
Ireland[a] 0.16% 22 April 2016 4 November 2016 4 December 2016
Israel 0.20% 22 April 2016 22 November 2016 22 December 2016
Italy[a] 1.18% 22 April 2016 11 November 2016 11 December 2016
Jamaica 0.04% 22 April 2016 10 April 2017 10 May 2017
Japan 3.79% 22 April 2016 8 November 2016 8 December 2016
Jordan 0.07% 22 April 2016 4 November 2016 4 December 2016
Kazakhstan 0.84% 2 August 2016 6 December 2016 5 January 2017
Kenya 0.06% 22 April 2016 28 December 2016 27 January 2017
Kiribati 0.00% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
North Korea 0.23% 22 April 2016 1 August 2016 4 November 2016
South Korea 1.85% 22 April 2016 3 November 2016 3 December 2016
Kuwait 0.09% 22 April 2016 23 April 2018 23 May 2018
Laos 0.02% 22 April 2016 7 September 2016 4 November 2016
Latvia[a] 0.03% 22 April 2016 16 March 2017 15 April 2017
Lesotho 0.01% 22 April 2016 20 January 2017 19 February 2017
Liberia 0.02% 22 April 2016 27 August 2018 26 September 2018
Liechtenstein 0.00% 22 April 2016 20 September 2017 20 October 2017
Lithuania[a] 0.05% 22 April 2016 2 February 2017 4 March 2017
Luxembourg[a] 0.03% 22 April 2016 4 November 2016 4 December 2016
Macedonia, Republic of 0.03% 22 April 2016 9 January 2018 8 February 2018
Madagascar 0.08% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Malawi 0.07% 20 September 2016 29 June 2017 29 July 2017
Malaysia 0.52% 22 April 2016 16 November 2016 16 December 2016
Maldives 0.00% 22 April 2016 22 April 2016 4 November 2016
Mali 0.03% 22 April 2016 23 September 2016 4 November 2016
Malta[a] 0.01% 22 April 2016 5 October 2016 4 November 2016
Marshall Islands 0.00% 22 April 2016 22 April 2016 4 November 2016
Mauritania 0.02% 22 April 2016 27 February 2017 29 March 2017
Mauritius 0.01% 22 April 2016 22 April 2016 4 November 2016
Mexico 1.70% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Micronesia 0.00% 22 April 2016 15 September 2016 4 November 2016
Moldova 0.04% 21 September 2016 20 June 2017 20 July 2017
Monaco 0.00% 22 April 2016 24 October 2016 23 November 2016
Mongolia 0.05% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Montenegro 0.01% 22 April 2016 20 December 2017 19 January 2018
Morocco 0.16% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Mozambique 0.02% 22 April 2016 4 June 2018 4 July 2018
Myanmar 0.10% 22 April 2016 19 September 2017 19 October 2017
Namibia 0.01% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Nauru 0.00% 22 April 2016 22 April 2016 4 November 2016
Nepal 0.07% 22 April 2016 5 October 2016 4 November 2016
Netherlands[f][a] 0.53% 22 April 2016 28 July 2017 27 August 2017
New Zealand[g] 0.22% 22 April 2016 4 October 2016 4 November 2016
Nicaragua 0.03% 23 October 2017 22 November 2017
Niger 0.04% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Nigeria 0.57% 22 September 2016 16 May 2017 15 June 2017
Niue 0.01% 28 October 2016 28 October 2016 27 November 2016
Norway 0.14% 22 April 2016 20 June 2016 4 November 2016
Oman 0.06% 22 April 2016 22 May 2019 21 June 2019
Pakistan 0.43% 22 April 2016 10 November 2016 10 December 2016
Palau 0.00% 22 April 2016 22 April 2016 4 November 2016
Palestine N/A[h] 22 April 2016 22 April 2016 4 November 2016
Panama 0.03% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Papua New Guinea 0.01% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Paraguay 0.06% 22 April 2016 14 October 2016 13 November 2016
Peru 0.22% 22 April 2016 25 July 2016 4 November 2016
Philippines 0.34% 22 April 2016 23 March 2017 22 April 2017
Poland[a] 1.06% 22 April 2016 7 October 2016 6 November 2016
Portugal[a] 0.18% 22 April 2016 5 October 2016 4 November 2016
Qatar 0.17% 22 April 2016 23 June 2017 23 July 2017
Romania[a] 0.30% 22 April 2016 1 June 2017 1 July 2017
Rwanda 0.02% 22 April 2016 6 October 2016 5 November 2016
Saint Kitts and Nevis 0.00% 22 April 2016 22 April 2016 4 November 2016
Saint Lucia 0.00% 22 April 2016 22 April 2016 4 November 2016
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 0.00% 22 April 2016 29 June 2016 4 November 2016
Samoa 0.00% 22 April 2016 22 April 2016 4 November 2016
San Marino 0.00% 22 April 2016 26 September 2018 26 October 2018
São Tomé and Príncipe 0.00% 22 April 2016 2 November 2016 2 December 2016
Saudi Arabia 0.80% 3 November 2016 3 November 2016 3 December 2016
Senegal 0.05% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Serbia 0.18% 22 April 2016 25 July 2017 24 August 2017
Seychelles 0.00% 25 April 2016 29 April 2016 4 November 2016
Sierra Leone 0.98% 22 September 2016 1 November 2016 1 December 2016
Singapore 0.13% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Slovakia[a] 0.12% 22 April 2016 5 October 2016 4 November 2016
Slovenia[a] 0.05% 22 April 2016 16 December 2016 15 January 2017
Solomon Islands 0.00% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Somalia N/A 22 April 2016 22 April 2016 4 November 2016
South Africa 1.46% 22 April 2016 1 November 2016 1 December 2016
Spain[a] 0.87% 22 April 2016 12 January 2017 11 February 2017
Sri Lanka 0.05% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Sudan 0.18% 22 April 2016 2 August 2017 1 September 2017
Suriname 0.01% 22 April 2016 13 February 2019 15 March 2019
Swaziland 0.05% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Sweden[a] 0.15% 22 April 2016 13 October 2016 12 November 2016
Switzerland 0.14% 22 April 2016 6 October 2017 5 November 2017
Syria 0.21% 13 November 2017 13 December 2017
Tanzania 0.11% 22 April 2016 18 May 2018 17 June 2018
Tajikistan 0.02% 22 April 2016 22 March 2017 21 April 2017
Thailand 0.64% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Togo 0.02% 19 September 2016 28 June 2017 28 July 2017
Tonga 0.00% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Trinidad and Tobago 0.04% 22 April 2016 22 February 2018 24 March 2018
Tunisia 0.11% 22 April 2016 10 February 2017 12 March 2017
Turkmenistan 0.20% 23 September 2016 20 October 2016 19 November 2016
Tuvalu 0.00% 22 April 2016 22 April 2016 4 November 2016
Uganda 0.07% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Ukraine 1.04% 22 April 2016 19 September 2016 4 November 2016
United Arab Emirates 0.53% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
United Kingdom[a] 1.55% 22 April 2016 18 November 2016 18 December 2016
United States[j] 17.89% 22 April 2016 3 September 2016 4 November 2016
Uruguay 0.05% 22 April 2016 19 October 2016 18 November 2016
Uzbekistan 0.54% 19 April 2017 9 November 2018 9 December 2018
Vanuatu 0.00% 22 April 2016 21 September 2016 4 November 2016
Venezuela 0.52% 22 April 2016 21 July 2017 20 August 2017
Vietnam 0.72% 22 April 2016 3 November 2016 3 December 2016
Zambia 0.04% 20 September 2016 9 December 2016 8 January 2017
Zimbabwe 0.18% 22 April 2016 7 August 2017 6 September 2017
Total 89.38%[5] 186[12]


Signatories
A further 11 states have signed but not ratified the Paris Agreement. In July 2019 the president of Russia, declared that his government will submit a bill to parliament to approve ratifying the agreement by September 2019.[30]

Signatory[12] Percentage of greenhouse
gases for ratification[5] Date of signature
Angola 0.17% 22 April 2016
Eritrea 0.01% 22 April 2016
Iran 1.30% 22 April 2016
Iraq 0.20% 8 December 2016
Kyrgyzstan 0.03% 21 September 2016
Lebanon 0.07% 22 April 2016
Libya N/A 22 April 2016
Russia 7.53% 22 April 2016
South Sudan N/A 22 April 2016
Turkey 1.24% 22 April 2016
Yemen 0.07% 23 September 2016
Total 10.63% 11
Non-signatories
As per terms of the Paris Agreement, only UNFCCC member states are entitled to become parties to the Paris Agreement. The Holy See is an observer state of the UNFCCC and can accede to the Paris Agreement if it first joins the UNFCCC.

State Percentage of greenhouse
gases for ratification[5] UNFCCC
membership Notes
Holy See N/A[h] Observer state In 2015, Bernardito Auza stated that the Holy See intended to join the UNFCCC in order to sign the Paris Agreement.[31]

 

[JacksBratt]

well s/he complained about globalists . That’s usually what flatearther’s call people who don’t accept flatearthism

It doesn't matter.. You are condescending someone for assuming that they believe in something.. which they have total right to...

However, you have no proof of that.
You are obviously did it to ridicule
That is attacking the person, not presenting information to support your view.. You are slandering them with a view on a totally different topic and with no proof that they even hold that view.

 

[JacksBratt]

The internet has absolutely been a major factor in misinformation being disseminated & consumed! I do think my generation is learning to filter out sources & not just accept what we read without any evaluation or examination.

There's been a dumbing down in culture; it's certainly not specific to youth. I've been shocked to the core at the number of older people who refuse to read any newspaper bc they believe anything critical of their political tribe or in discordance with their beliefs is therefore "fake news." I've definitely seen much more falsities about science from older people than from ones my own age.

I've been reading the NYT regularly for years along with other papers from around the world. For students the subscription is either super cheap or totally free. I've written about several my favourite classic books in the thread about books on this thread. I joined here when I was in grade 9. I write in text on here a lot as do a lot of people but we do know how to properly spell words, whereas you frequently see adults misspell them.

On this topic specifically I do think there's been more effort in modern times to educate about climate change & its ramifications. Obv the level and quality of education varies by school but I've never met anybody young IRL who was flippant about it or thought it was a "hoax." It has been extensively covered for yrs in my science classes. There's a whole thread on here where ppl most over 40 are giggling about how they think it's dumb that Democrats have discussed how meat consumption impacts the environment. When that's literally on HS level science exams....

The internet presents both fact and fiction.. fake and real news... That is why the mainstream media don't like it..

In fact, Google and YouTube are modifying their search algorithms to make it more difficult, if not impossible to search for anyone that goes against the hive mind... and the panic of the fake news like CNN.

TV news is no more reliable than the internet.

Knowledge has increased.... so has the lies of any media.. social, internet or TV.

 

[th1bill]

That's not nice and they will close this if you are going to throw barbs.

I honestly did no more than to let the Troll know I am not going to nip at a baited hook. Christians have forgotten they are members of YHWH's Army and like the US Army in WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam in hundreds of other Police Actions, there is a time to love with a Sweet Heart and then there instances like Tet of 1968 and the day after Tet of 1969 when to keep the innocent from neing slaughtered with every weapon short of the Tactical, Cannon Delivered and Aircraft Delivered in Close Support Infantry Infringements.

I left the man without closing the door in his face but he knows, now, that there is one Desciple here not unlike Paul. If we are so weak we cannot deliver the harsh truth, we are not Soldiers in YHWH's Service.

 

[ilovejcsog]

"Liefesite News reported:

Pope Francis has called upon the world to give up fossil fuels, claiming that the climate is in a state of “emergency” and that this has been caused by human activity.
In his Message for the World Day of Prayer for the Care of Creation, an ecumenical celebration held on September 1, the Argentine pontiff encouraged the world to adopt “simpler lifestyles” and to abandon fossil fuels.
“Now is the time to abandon our dependence on fossil fuels and move, quickly and decisively, towards forms of clean energy and a sustainable and circular economy,” he said.
Then he got on his Vatican jet and flew to Africa."

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...don-fossil-fuels-then-he-flies-off-to-africa/

 

[timothyu]

Donkeys (old school travel) have trouble dog-paddling oceans. And angels seem to be avoiding helping him out. Perhaps it is not in their job description.

 

[ralfyman]

Here are some sources referred to earlier:

Reports » Climate Change at the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine

Summary of Findings - Berkeley Earth

The latter was funded by skeptics.

 

[Kalevalatar]

I live in an Arctic country, and although we do not have polar bears, we do have reindeer, who feed on lichen, which is the canary in a coal mine for both pollution and the ongoing climate change. We are losing lichen. Now, whether one considers the loss of reindeer and the niche economy and lifestyle of reindeer husbandry and reindeer tourism, snow-dependent winter sports and tourism thereof a serious issue is matter of opinion, I suppose.

Far more serious wholesale impacts of the climate change that we are already faced with are the wholly new pests, fungi and invasive species that migrate up here north with the warming climate and the negative economic impact on our forests and agriculture in a country that has 'lived off its forests'. Forests are Finland's most valuable natural resource and forest industry accounts for almost 25% of our exports revenue (ten times more than elsewhere in the world on average) and forestry pays the salaries of 12% of our workforce. Snow and frost act as a protective layer for the vulnerable Arctic nature, thus, mild winters mean increased damage for trees and roots, in addition to the damage to the forestry infrastructure, to forest roads for example.

For us people, long grey winters, more cloudy and rainy days and the lack of brightening snow have an effect on our mental health in a country that is already suffering from depression. SADs are going to get more severe. Combine that with the diminished opportunities for winter sports and outdoor activities and exercise coupled with SAD craving for sugary foods and fats, and it's a vicious cyrcle for national health and wellbeing.

So yes, looks pretty bleak to me from where I sit.

 

[Zanting]

Those videos answer the questions I asked? Give the rundown of whose running the conspiracy and how all the scientists are being paid to lie?

Do some research on monsanto and find out just how many scientists are on their payroll to promote the global warming/climate change hoax. Big big money for them and their products. Their paid propagandist scientists are as world wide as they are.

 

[Zanting]

Canada is probably feeling the effects of climate change more strongly than the USA, especially in northern Canada.

I read somewhere that climate change in Canada is twice the rate of other countries. So Canadians see the direct result of climate change first hand.

That's just not true at all...the weather here has fluctuated between colder and warmer winters, colder and warmer summers for decades. It's been doing that long before the fear mongering global warming crowd came along to make money. It's all about the money...always has been always will be.

 

[Zanting]

Actually no, older people are oftentimes more gullible than younger people. Ppl over 65 are much more susceptible to believing & sharing fake news, including about climate change. Older people in this thread have talked about past predictions of disaster but then were apparently uninformed of the past efforts to take those predictions seriously & implement meaningful changes.

That's just wrong on so many levels.

 

[JacksBratt]

I live in an Arctic country, and although we do not have polar bears, we do have reindeer, who feed on lichen, which is the canary in a coal mine for both pollution and the ongoing climate change. We are losing lichen. Now, whether one considers the loss of reindeer and the niche economy and lifestyle of reindeer husbandry and reindeer tourism, snow-dependent winter sports and tourism thereof a serious issue is matter of opinion, I suppose.

Far more serious wholesale impacts of the climate change that we are already faced with are the wholly new pests, fungi and invasive species that migrate up here north with the warming climate and the negative economic impact on our forests and agriculture in a country that has 'lived off its forests'. Forests are Finland's most valuable natural resource and forest industry accounts for almost 25% of our exports revenue (ten times more than elsewhere in the world on average) and forestry pays the salaries of 12% of our workforce. Snow and frost act as a protective layer for the vulnerable Arctic nature, thus, mild winters mean increased damage for trees and roots, in addition to the damage to the forestry infrastructure, to forest roads for example.

For us people, long grey winters, more cloudy and rainy days and the lack of brightening snow have an effect on our mental health in a country that is already suffering from depression. SADs are going to get more severe. Combine that with the diminished opportunities for winter sports and outdoor activities and exercise coupled with SAD craving for sugary foods and fats, and it's a vicious cyrcle for national health and wellbeing.

So yes, looks pretty bleak to me from where I sit.

I don't doubt what you are saying.. The part that I disagree with is the assumption that... since it has warmed a bit... that it will continue to do so.

If you listen to the white lab coat people, as they speak what they are told to speak, with their scaremongering that this trend will "continue for eternity" and "humanity is going to perish" if you don't stop driving cars, eating meat, burning flammable substances for heat, etc, etc, etc..... blah blah blah.

Then you will be in panic mode.


OR... you can use the brain that God gave you and look at history.... good grief... Check it out.. has this happened before.. Ah.. yep..... many times... Will it happen again... I'm guessing YES..

SO, sit down, have a coffee and enjoy the weather... It's guaranteed to change...

Throw away this arrogant talk that mankind has some effect on the climate of this universe...or... can control any change that is taking place on a global scale.

 

[Cimorene]

That's just wrong on so many levels.

Uh huh. Well the man who gave you the winner rating is old enough to be my grandpa & has a thread where he vigorously defends his belief that the Earth is flat using a YT video of (in his words) "internationally renowned speaker" as his main resource. Lol. So, thanks to him for helping prove my point.

 

[Zanting]

Uh huh. Well the man who gave you the winner rating is old enough to be my grandpa & has a thread where he vigorously defends his belief that the Earth is flat using a YT video of (in his words) "internationally renowned speaker" as his main resource. Lol. So, thanks to him for helping prove my point.

And again just wrong... if in fact you have described this person honestly and it is true...he is only one among millions in that age group.

Besides...I know several young 19 year old`s who are convinced the world is flat...and it proves...hear the drum roll...ta da...nothing about young people and how or what they choose to believe anymore then older people...what people choose to believe has nothing to do with age.

 

[timothyu]

what people choose to believe has nothing to do with age.

True but the older one gets the more set in their ways they become and change is less likely, especially for those who identify themselves through others or movements. The young come with a natural spirit of rebellion for parental and institutional teaching for a reason. Without it tradition would rule instead of growth.