California Black woman slams sanctuary cities

Zanting

not so new
Mar 15, 2012
2,366
464
✟47,296.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
wow...someone wearing a MAGA hat in their profile pic posts something that President Trump would like...who could have seen that ever happening? :swoon:
tulc(is shocked) :sorry:


I see that you are referring to the person who posted the video...just to be clear...there were many others who posted that video...so I edited my reply accordingly...yet and still...It`s very unfortunate that your focus isn`t on the topic. Your knee-jerk reaction would suggest you don`t like hearing this woman speak truth about these democratic run sanctuary cities.
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

tulc

loves "SO'S YER MOM!! posts!
May 18, 2002
49,401
18,801
68
✟271,570.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
(snip) Your knee-jerk reaction would suggest you don`t like hearing this woman speak truth about these democratic run sanctuary cities.
what I heard was her opinion, it would seem you were the one having a "knee jerk reaction" to someones opinion being elevated to "truth" simply because you agree with what she said. :wave:
tulc(just thought that should be pointed out) :)
 
Upvote 0

Zanting

not so new
Mar 15, 2012
2,366
464
✟47,296.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
what I heard was her opinion, it would seem you were the one having a "knee jerk reaction" to someones opinion being elevated to "truth" simply because you agree with what she said. :wave:
tulc(just thought that should be pointed out) :)


Well perhaps you have facts to indicate this woman is in an opinionated fantasy world instead of stating facts and truth.
Just thought that should be pointed out.
 
Upvote 0

tulc

loves "SO'S YER MOM!! posts!
May 18, 2002
49,401
18,801
68
✟271,570.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Well perhaps you have facts to indicate this woman is in an opinionated fantasy world instead of stating facts and truth.
A little unclear on the difference between a fact and an opinion huh? Not surprising it's a common problem for a lot of people:
opinion said:
a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
an opinion is neither true or false it's an opinion, they're like noses everyone has one and is free to pick their own, but, like noses, no one has to take what you pull out of it as being the truth. So I don't have to show she's wrong, because she never showed she was right she just offered her opinion.
A fact however?
fact said:
a thing that is known or proved to be true.
those are held to a different standard. She voiced her opinion, which is valid, but she wasn't, however "stating facts and truth" if she didn't also supply documents and evidence in support of her opinion. See the difference? :scratch:

Just thought that should be pointed out.
and I'm glad you did, it seems you were a little unclear on the difference between facts and opinions so it gave me a chance to help clear that up for you. You're welcome. :wave:
tulc(hopes that helps) :oldthumbsup:
 
Upvote 0

Zanting

not so new
Mar 15, 2012
2,366
464
✟47,296.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
A little unclear on the difference between a fact and an opinion huh? Not surprising it's a common problem for a lot of people:

an opinion is neither true or false it's an opinion, they're like noses everyone has one and is free to pick their own, but, like noses, no one has to take what you pull out of it as being the truth. So I don't have to show she's wrong, because she never showed she was right she just offered her opinion.
A fact however?

those are held to a different standard. She voiced her opinion, which is valid, but she wasn't, however "stating facts and truth" if she didn't also supply documents and evidence in support of her opinion. See the difference? :scratch:


and I'm glad you did, it seems you were a little unclear on the difference between facts and opinions so it gave me a chance to help clear that up for you. You're welcome. :wave:
tulc(hopes that helps) :oldthumbsup:


Gee...thanks for the lecture...but you haven't presented anything that counters what this woman has presented as facts. Sorry you're so unclear about her statements and have confused her facts with your opinion...it's a very common problem among anti-Trumpers...but then again they seem to have more trouble distinguishing fantasy from reality...for example we have the Russia hoax...the Smollette hoax...the Covington Kids hoax to name a few.

So perhaps you would like to indicate where your line between fact and opinion occur in this woman's statements...the topic of this thread which you have simply passed off as mere opinion by this person whom in your opinion has not stated any facts.

Hopefully that helps you get on topic.
 
Upvote 0

tulc

loves "SO'S YER MOM!! posts!
May 18, 2002
49,401
18,801
68
✟271,570.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Gee...thanks for the lecture...but you haven't presented anything that counters what this woman has presented as facts. Sorry you're so unclear about her statements and have confused her facts with your opinion...it's a very common problem among anti-Trumpers...but then again they seem to have more trouble distinguishing fantasy from reality...for example we have the Russia hoax...the Smollette hoax...the Covington Kids hoax to name a few.

So perhaps you would like to indicate where your line between fact and opinion occur in this woman's statements...the topic of this thread which you have simply passed off as mere opinion by this person whom in your opinion has not stated any facts.

Hopefully that helps you get on topic.
...she presented evidence to support the things she said? I must have missed that part, could you post where she did it in the video? :wave:
tulc(simply applied "Hitchens's razor" to it: "if no evidence is presented to support something, no evidence is required to disprove it.") :)
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

Zanting

not so new
Mar 15, 2012
2,366
464
✟47,296.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
...she presented evidence to support the things she said? I must have missed that part, could you post where she did it in the video? :wave:
tulc(simply applied "Hitchens's razor" to it: "if no evidence is presented to support something, no evidence is required to disprove it.") :)

So let me get this straight...first you make this about an obvious Trump supporter who posted the video and say nothing about the issues this woman is bringing up (the purpose of the thread). Then you claim what she is saying is just an opinion of what is happening in these sanctuary cities and further claim there are no factual bases to the issues she has brought up because she didn't provide evidence...so you don't have to provide evidence to dispute her statements.

None of which is the topic of this thread...

Just a side note...statement of fact verses statement of opinion is actually much more appropriate in this particular situation...and if you would like to discuss this topic...start a thread about it...it's a hair splitting discussion.

I would further point out that life experiences are more than just opinion and can be confirmed by others sharing the same experiences as these black people are obviously going through in these democratic run sanctuary cities. It's actually a fact that illegal immigrants are treated better than US citizens using your country mans tax dollars. Just looking at the homelessness that is ignored in these cities and others makes that a fact...no documentation needed...just a walk down the street.

More and more corrupt democrats are being indicted and convicted for fraud and other crimes in these democratic run cities, which indeed verifies her statements and confirms they are much more then just an opinion and reveals just how fact based this woman's statement are. She is an everyday citizen sharing what she is living and is well aware of...not a lawyer carrying a briefcase full of documents to prove her statements are fact based.

This thread is not about Trump supporters...this thread is not about fact verses opinion. This thread is about highlighting the experiences of these tax paying citizens in sanctuary cities...a topic you've skirted around with no substantial input except perhaps to derail the thread by trying to make it about something it is not.

Do you have anything to contribute regarding what this woman has voiced for these peoples experiences in sanctuary cities other then stating it's just an opinion?
 
  • Agree
Reactions: Pedra
Upvote 0

tulc

loves "SO'S YER MOM!! posts!
May 18, 2002
49,401
18,801
68
✟271,570.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
So let me get this straight...first you make this about an obvious Trump supporter who posted the video and say nothing about the issues this woman is bringing up (the purpose of the thread). Then you claim what she is saying is just an opinion of what is happening in these sanctuary cities and further claim there are no factual bases to the issues she has brought up because she didn't provide evidence...so you don't have to provide evidence to dispute her statements.

None of which is the topic of this thread...

Just a side note...statement of fact verses statement of opinion is actually much more appropriate in this particular situation...and if you would like to discuss this topic...start a thread about it...it's a hair splitting discussion.

I would further point out that life experiences are more than just opinion and can be confirmed by others sharing the same experiences as these black people are obviously going through in these democratic run sanctuary cities. It's actually a fact that illegal immigrants are treated better than US citizens using your country mans tax dollars. Just looking at the homelessness that is ignored in these cities and others makes that a fact...no documentation needed...just a walk down the street.

More and more corrupt democrats are being indicted and convicted for fraud and other crimes in these democratic run cities, which indeed verifies her statements and confirms they are much more then just an opinion and reveals just how fact based this woman's statement are. She is an everyday citizen sharing what she is living and is well aware of...not a lawyer carrying a briefcase full of documents to prove her statements are fact based.

This thread is not about Trump supporters...this thread is not about fact verses opinion. This thread is about highlighting the experiences of these tax paying citizens in sanctuary cities...a topic you've skirted around with no substantial input except perhaps to derail the thread by trying to make it about something it is not.

Do you have anything to contribute regarding what this woman has voiced for these peoples experiences in sanctuary cities other then stating it's just an opinion?
uhmmm...what I was addressing was that people were mistaking what the woman in the video was saying was "the truth" when it was actually just her opinion:
God bless this woman for speaking the Truth.

shouldn't you be addressing your post to them, not me? :scratch:
tulc(hopes that clears up any misunderstanding) :)
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

Pedra

Newbie
Mar 6, 2015
1,134
619
✟36,360.00
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
uhmmm...what I was addressing was that people were mistaking what the woman in the video was saying was the "truth" when it was actually just her opinion:shouldn't you be addressing your post to them, not me? :scratch:
tulc(hopes that clears up any misunderstanding) :)
My post is #2 on this thread directly under the OP.
No one else but the Op had posted on this thread-- so how could my post have been addressed to "you"? ----It obviously was not.
 
Upvote 0

tulc

loves "SO'S YER MOM!! posts!
May 18, 2002
49,401
18,801
68
✟271,570.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
My post is #2 on this thread directly under the OP.
No one else but the Op had posted on this thread-- so how could my post have been addressed to "you"? ----It obviously was not.
Didn't say you did, I was addressing what your post said. That's how forums work someone posts something, someone else responds to what the post said. :wave:
tulc(sorry for the confusion) :)
 
Upvote 0

Zanting

not so new
Mar 15, 2012
2,366
464
✟47,296.00
Country
Canada
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
uhmmm...what I was addressing was that people were mistaking what the woman in the video was saying was "the truth" when it was actually just her opinion:



shouldn't you be addressing your post to them, not me? :scratch:
tulc(hopes that clears up any misunderstanding) :)


No...Pedra isn't debating fact verses opinion...you are. If you believe that Pedra is mistaken then why are you addressing me?

God Bless and have a great weekend.
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

Pedra

Newbie
Mar 6, 2015
1,134
619
✟36,360.00
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
Didn't say you did, I was addressing what your post said. That's how forums work someone posts something, someone else responds to what the post said. :wave:
tulc(sorry for the confusion) :)

Your chosen constant use of of an animated gif which appears to be used for trolling or taunting --- can actually cause epileptic seizures in some vulnerable people.
 
Upvote 0

tulc

loves "SO'S YER MOM!! posts!
May 18, 2002
49,401
18,801
68
✟271,570.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Your chosen constant use of of an animated gif which appears to be used for trolling or taunting
uhmmm...or they're not used for that? CF has them for posters to use, so I use them. They're part of how people communicate online, I treat them as a (though not always perceived as that) kind of replacement for body language. I also use them because I like them. :)

--- can actually cause epileptic seizures in some vulnerable people.
Then shouldn't those people try and avoid posting in forums that use them? :scratch:
tulc(would think that's something people with that problem might take into consideration for themselves) :wave:
 
Upvote 0

tulc

loves "SO'S YER MOM!! posts!
May 18, 2002
49,401
18,801
68
✟271,570.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
No...Pedra isn't debating fact verses opinion...you are. If you believe that Pedra is mistaken then why are you addressing me?
That would be in response to the second quote I included where you said:
post #5 said:
which would seem to indicate you agreed with Pedra that she "was speaking the truth", are you saying you don't think she was speaking the truth? :scratch:

God Bless and have a great weekend.
You as well brother! :clap:
tulc(is washing pots for 300 of his closest friends today!) :oldthumbsup:
 
Upvote 0

Pedra

Newbie
Mar 6, 2015
1,134
619
✟36,360.00
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
That would be in response to the second quote I included where you said:

which would seem to indicate you agreed with Pedra that she "was speaking the truth", are you saying you don't think she was speaking the truth? :scratch:


You as well brother
tulc(is washing pots for 300 of his closest friends today!)


Animated GIFs And Epilepsy Dangers
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums