I need some advice on a situation at work

[ByTheSpirit]

So I'm an assistant manager with a wireless carrier, we have not had an actual store manager for 6 weeks (august 1). My district manager has known since mid-june they needed a replacement. I applied for the position but because I'm not a "yes" man and my numbers are somewhat low I didn't get it. Which I am actually ok with, but that's not the issue.

My leadership is constantly asking me to do tasks and take on responsibilities that are found only on the store manager's responsibility list, as found in the company's HR site. Now, after having some fill ins come out here to the store, which is an hour away from the nearest location, apparently they are out of fillins so next Tuesday they have told me I'm doing it.

Thus my dilemma. I am strictly about getting paid to do a job. I have filled in plenty of times before with no fuss, because I was trying to show I could do the job. Now that I applied for the job and was turned down, its a different story. How do you expect me to do a job that you said I wasn't able to do by denying my application?

I've really drawn a line in the sand here, now I have a week to change my mind, but really should I? I have applied to all sorts of jobs. I am SICK of sales! Have some experience doing office work, but no takers thus far. I know I can't afford to get fired or lose the position, but what recourse do I have?

Why can't these upper managers just hire someone to take the position? I truly am ok not having the spot, I would love to have been promoted but it didn't happen, ok. But don't then ask me to do the job just not pay me for it. Such disrespect. Am I just being extreme?

 

[Kris Jordan]

So I'm an assistant manager with a wireless carrier, we have not had an actual store manager for 6 weeks (august 1). My district manager has known since mid-june they needed a replacement. I applied for the position but because I'm not a "yes" man and my numbers are somewhat low I didn't get it. Which I am actually ok with, but that's not the issue.

My leadership is constantly asking me to do tasks and take on responsibilities that are found only on the store manager's responsibility list, as found in the company's HR site. Now, after having some fill ins come out here to the store, which is an hour away from the nearest location, apparently they are out of fillins so next Tuesday they have told me I'm doing it.

Thus my dilemma. I am strictly about getting paid to do a job. I have filled in plenty of times before with no fuss, because I was trying to show I could do the job. Now that I applied for the job and was turned down, its a different story. How do you expect me to do a job that you said I wasn't able to do by denying my application?

I've really drawn a line in the sand here, now I have a week to change my mind, but really should I? I have applied to all sorts of jobs. I am SICK of sales! Have some experience doing office work, but no takers thus far. I know I can't afford to get fired or lose the position, but what recourse do I have?

Why can't these upper managers just hire someone to take the position? I truly am ok not having the spot, I would love to have been promoted but it didn't happen, ok. But don't then ask me to do the job just not pay me for it. Such disrespect. Am I just being extreme?

Hi ByTheSpirit,

I may have missed it in your post but have you spoken with the "powers that be" in this situation and told them you would be more than happy to move into the new position as long as you're paid accordingly? If you have and they declined to increase your salary, you have some prayerful decisions to make:

1. Take the job and serve them as unto the Lord for the same pay you're currently receiving.
2. Decline the job and remain in your current job (if that's still an option).
3. Find employment elsewhere.

 

[maintenance man]

How do you expect me to do a job that you said I wasn't able to do by denying my application?

Is it possible they don't believe you are truly looking for a long term commitment to the company?

This could be the reason they are looking to give the job to someone else.

You impress the company by doing what's best for them and not what's best for yourself.

It's up to you to decide how far you want to bend in their direction.

If you believe you are being unfairly treated then looking for another job is a good idea, but until the new job comes you probably need to play along to get along.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

Hi ByTheSpirit,

I may have missed it in your post but have you spoken with the "powers that be" in this situation and told them you would be more than happy to move into the new position as long as you're paid accordingly? If you have and they declined to increase your salary, you have some prayerful decisions to make:

1. Take the job and serve them as unto the Lord for the same pay you're currently receiving.
2. Decline the job and remain in your current job (if that's still an option).
3. Find employment elsewhere.

1) is something I honestly, didn't think of. I'm somewhat ashamed to admit that. I'm just exhausted here. I've done the job in an unofficial capacity for months and have said little to anything about it except at my interview for the position. Perhaps this is a test. I have talked to them about it though, did so at my interview for the position back in July.

Is it possible they don't believe you are truly looking for a long term commitment to the company?

This could be the reason they are looking to give the job to someone else.

You impress the company by doing what's best for them and not what's best for yourself.

It's up to you to decide how far you want to bend in their direction.

If you believe you are being unfairly treated then looking for another job is a good idea, but until the new job comes you probably need to play along to get along.

Yeah, I may have to do it, because I can't afford to be without a job. I'm just tired of being used like this. Not the first time.

 

[A Realist]

I can definitely understand your frustration with this. But I guess what it boils down to is this:

1) You can calmly explain your frustration to the district manager. If that doesn't solve anything:
2) You can accept that there is nothing you can do about it and move forward.
3) You can quit your job.

 

[tall73]

I would advise to take on the work, and do your best. Even if you do not always hit personal numbers, if they have trouble filling the position, and you do well in it, you may wind up with the position eventually.

And if not it is experience to apply at a different wireless carrier for a similar position.

 

[Albion]

Why can't these upper managers just hire someone to take the position? I truly am ok not having the spot, I would love to have been promoted but it didn't happen, ok. But don't then ask me to do the job just not pay me for it. Such disrespect. Am I just being extreme?

They probably are within their rights to tell you to fill in, but what do you mean by saying you have drawn a line in the sand with a week to change your mind?

 

[Kris Jordan]

1) is something I honestly, didn't think of. I'm somewhat ashamed to admit that. I'm just exhausted here. I've done the job in an unofficial capacity for months and have said little to anything about it except at my interview for the position. Perhaps this is a test. I have talked to them about it though, did so at my interview for the position back in July.

No worries, you're not alone. Sometimes when our brains and emotions are fried, our logical-self takes a vacation. Happens to me often. LOL!

That would be the first place I'd start. Meet with them and discuss the job and expected pay increase. The worst they can say is "no" which is no worse-off than where you're at right now. So you have nothing to lose.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

They probably are within their rights to tell you to fill in, but what do you mean by saying you have drawn a line in the sand with a week to change your mind?

Meaning basically, if they still expect me to do this next week, I will turn in my resignation (upon finding a new job)

 

[eleos1954]

So I'm an assistant manager with a wireless carrier, we have not had an actual store manager for 6 weeks (august 1). My district manager has known since mid-june they needed a replacement. I applied for the position but because I'm not a "yes" man and my numbers are somewhat low I didn't get it. Which I am actually ok with, but that's not the issue.

My leadership is constantly asking me to do tasks and take on responsibilities that are found only on the store manager's responsibility list, as found in the company's HR site. Now, after having some fill ins come out here to the store, which is an hour away from the nearest location, apparently they are out of fillins so next Tuesday they have told me I'm doing it.

Thus my dilemma. I am strictly about getting paid to do a job. I have filled in plenty of times before with no fuss, because I was trying to show I could do the job. Now that I applied for the job and was turned down, its a different story. How do you expect me to do a job that you said I wasn't able to do by denying my application?

I've really drawn a line in the sand here, now I have a week to change my mind, but really should I? I have applied to all sorts of jobs. I am SICK of sales! Have some experience doing office work, but no takers thus far. I know I can't afford to get fired or lose the position, but what recourse do I have?

Why can't these upper managers just hire someone to take the position? I truly am ok not having the spot, I would love to have been promoted but it didn't happen, ok. But don't then ask me to do the job just not pay me for it. Such disrespect. Am I just being extreme?

When I've been unhappy with employment then I always peursue other employment until, in fact it happens that is ... "put up with" whatever is going on ... until I have something in place. Being unemployed is much worse stress than I've ever cared to deal with and I've never had to ... other than a couple companies that went out of business. This worked for me for over 50 years ... retired now.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

When I've been unhappy with employment then I always peursue other employment until, in fact it happens that is ... "put up with" whatever is going on ... until I have something in place. Being unemployed is much worse stress than I've ever cared to deal with and I've never had to ... other than a couple companies that went out of business. This worked for me for over 50 years ... retired now.

This is my course currently. I really just needed to let off some steam and I trust this community more than others to give me some solid advice for what to do.

I'm more upset that they told me I couldn't get promoted to the position, and now they are asking me to do the job still, just not give me the pay, but that first response spoke to me pretty well about doing the job as unto the Lord, a sacrifice of sorts.

Time to swallow the pride and just do it I suppose. I can do it cheerfully and just endure until a different job opens up, or be bitter about it and still wait. I have quit jobs before without having something else lined up and that is a mistake I'd rather not make again.

 

[Emmylouwho]

So I'm an assistant manager with a wireless carrier, we have not had an actual store manager for 6 weeks (august 1). My district manager has known since mid-june they needed a replacement. I applied for the position but because I'm not a "yes" man and my numbers are somewhat low I didn't get it. Which I am actually ok with, but that's not the issue.

My leadership is constantly asking me to do tasks and take on responsibilities that are found only on the store manager's responsibility list, as found in the company's HR site. Now, after having some fill ins come out here to the store, which is an hour away from the nearest location, apparently they are out of fillins so next Tuesday they have told me I'm doing it.

Thus my dilemma. I am strictly about getting paid to do a job. I have filled in plenty of times before with no fuss, because I was trying to show I could do the job. Now that I applied for the job and was turned down, its a different story. How do you expect me to do a job that you said I wasn't able to do by denying my application?

I've really drawn a line in the sand here, now I have a week to change my mind, but really should I? I have applied to all sorts of jobs. I am SICK of sales! Have some experience doing office work, but no takers thus far. I know I can't afford to get fired or lose the position, but what recourse do I have?

Why can't these upper managers just hire someone to take the position? I truly am ok not having the spot, I would love to have been promoted but it didn't happen, ok. But don't then ask me to do the job just not pay me for it. Such disrespect. Am I just being extreme?

I would respectfully ask your manager for a written description of your job duties.

 

[Albion]

As I get it, you have been doing some of the work that pertains to that position, but now you will be filling in completely. If so, I would be cheerful about it and make no decisions until you perform there for a couple of months.

If everything goes well, it is reasonable for you to ask them how they think you have done, and if the answer is "fine," then ask to be given that appointment at whatever salary they were prepared to pay the other people who were interviewed.

You will have proven yourself, and whatever hesitation they had about your abilities on the occasion of your earlier interview, it wouldn't be relevant any longer.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

As I get it, you have been doing some of the work that pertains to that position, but now you will be filling in completely. If so, I would be cheerful about it and make no decisions until you perform there for a couple of months.

If everything goes well, it is reasonable for you to ask them how they think you have done, and if the answer is "fine," then ask to be given that appointment at whatever salary they were prepared to pay the other people who were interviewed.

You will have proven yourself, and whatever hesitation they had about your abilities on the occasion of your earlier interview, it wouldn't be relevant any longer.

The thing is they know I have been doing the job since last August. My original store manager quit and I had to fill in for 2 weeks while they found a replacement. There have been other times I had to fill in as well.

Im just upset... Doesn't really matter why I suppose and hard to explain without sounding like Im whining.

 

[Albion]

The thing is they know I have been doing the job since last August. My original store manager quit and I had to fill in for 2 weeks while they found a replacement. There have been other times I had to fill in as well.

Im just upset... Doesn't really matter why I suppose and hard to explain without sounding like Im whining.

Since August, 2018? If so, now is the time to put it squarely to the higher-ups why you aren't qualified after doing the job they might have thought you were not up to.

That's how I see it, although it does suppose that if you are snubbed and also expected to continue doing the job without being paid for it, you might have to resign.

If you aren't prepared to do that, prepare to do the job without title or the salary that is supposed to come with it. They may in fact be counting on just this scenario.

 

[Emmylouwho]

The thing is they know I have been doing the job since last August. My original store manager quit and I had to fill in for 2 weeks while they found a replacement. There have been other times I had to fill in as well.

Im just upset... Doesn't really matter why I suppose and hard to explain without sounding like Im whining.

I think that’s why it’s important that you get a written job description. If this description differs from what you got hired for, if you have more duties, it seems reasonable to expect more money.

 

[timothyu]

Unions solved this problem long ago. Now you know why they are not appreciated by businesses.

 

[eleos1954]

This is my course currently. I really just needed to let off some steam and I trust this community more than others to give me some solid advice for what to do.

I'm more upset that they told me I couldn't get promoted to the position, and now they are asking me to do the job still, just not give me the pay, but that first response spoke to me pretty well about doing the job as unto the Lord, a sacrifice of sorts.

Time to swallow the pride and just do it I suppose. I can do it cheerfully and just endure until a different job opens up, or be bitter about it and still wait. I have quit jobs before without having something else lined up and that is a mistake I'd rather not make again.

Be happy and go look for something else and keep doing that until you find an employer who appreciates you ;o)

Whenever I was working ... happy or not ... I was always looking ;o)

May the Lord lead you to a new and better job. Amen

 

[timothyu]

Wouldn't it be nice if the administrators gave us extra wireless services for free instead of expecting workers to give for free, extra services for them?? This is the result of giving the rich more money because they claim they can create more jobs. We see here what is really going on.

 

[A_Thinker]

So I'm an assistant manager with a wireless carrier, we have not had an actual store manager for 6 weeks (august 1). My district manager has known since mid-june they needed a replacement. I applied for the position but because I'm not a "yes" man and my numbers are somewhat low I didn't get it. Which I am actually ok with, but that's not the issue.

My leadership is constantly asking me to do tasks and take on responsibilities that are found only on the store manager's responsibility list, as found in the company's HR site. Now, after having some fill ins come out here to the store, which is an hour away from the nearest location, apparently they are out of fillins so next Tuesday they have told me I'm doing it.

Thus my dilemma. I am strictly about getting paid to do a job. I have filled in plenty of times before with no fuss, because I was trying to show I could do the job. Now that I applied for the job and was turned down, its a different story. How do you expect me to do a job that you said I wasn't able to do by denying my application?

I've really drawn a line in the sand here, now I have a week to change my mind, but really should I? I have applied to all sorts of jobs. I am SICK of sales! Have some experience doing office work, but no takers thus far. I know I can't afford to get fired or lose the position, but what recourse do I have?

Why can't these upper managers just hire someone to take the position? I truly am ok not having the spot, I would love to have been promoted but it didn't happen, ok. But don't then ask me to do the job just not pay me for it. Such disrespect. Am I just being extreme?

Seems like filling in as store manager when necessary ... is a requirement for the job you have now. You need to think about whether you want to keep that job.

OTOH, you yourself are aware of your shortcomings regarding the store manager position. Seems that your management doesn't feel like you'd be the best fit for the position long-term.

You could change that, I guess, to show that you're more of a team player.

Management is sort of like, being on the team. Someone who is not with the program ... could very well be a problem.

The other solution ... is to find another job ...