Trump says, "love me or hate me, you have to vote for me"

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The Dems don't have anyone with a positive message. People want to hear that. Their candidates have nothing good in their agenda, only criticisms, fake news - fabricated scams and schemes, but mainly socialism. And the lie that socialism is something good is perpetrated by people like A.O. C. or Bernie. All we have to look at are countries like the former Soviet Union, China. We witness the effects in Venezuela and Greece. Their cries are loud and clear - "HELP" _ "POVERTY" _ "CRIME" _ "NO HOPE IN SIGHT" ... "BAIL US OUT" _ "GIVE US MORE MONEY"!
Well, America will vote for Trump, not because they all like him, but because the alternative is nothing short of the rape, pillage and plunder of a great nation.
 
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...they haven't so far, so I suspect they wont in 2020 either. :wave:
tulc(just thought that should be pointed out) :)
More fake news! You got nothing. Everyone is starting to realize the propaganda the media is trying to push is a house of cards and a strong wind is about to blow it down.
 
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More fake news! You got nothing. Everyone is starting to realize the propaganda the media is trying to push is a house of cards and a strong wind is about to blow it down.
Or it's not. :)
tulc(also thinks that should be pointed out) :wave:
 
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Speaking of this "House of Cards the Dems have contructed, it keeps changing faces, design, because it has collapsed over and over again with every new scheme. So they rebuild again and continue to echo their chants. It reminds me of My Cousin Vinmy, where the entire town tries to convict two innocents boys of murder. Each piece of evidence (that the prosecution wanted you to believe was as solid as a brick) turned out to be as thin as a card. And so Vinny exposed all of their ideas to be false illusions.
Trump is like Vinny, rough around the edges, with character flaws, not a Rhodes scholar, but brilliant and able to huff and puff and blow their house down!
 
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pillage and plunder of a great nation

That's a pretty strange assertion, given that the current administration is trying it's best to open up pristine landscapes to exploitation for short-term gain.
 
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The Dems don't have anyone with a positive message. People want to hear that. Their candidates have nothing good in their agenda, only criticisms, fake news - fabricated scams and schemes, but mainly socialism. And the lie that socialism is something good is perpetrated by people like A.O. C. or Bernie. All we have to look at are countries like the former Soviet Union, China. We witness the effects in Venezuela and Greece. Their cries are loud and clear - "HELP" _ "POVERTY" _ "CRIME" _ "NO HOPE IN SIGHT" ... "BAIL US OUT" _ "GIVE US MORE MONEY"!
Well, America will vote for Trump, not because they all like him, but because the alternative is nothing short of the rape, pillage and plunder of a great nation.
Bernie (and AOC for that matter) definitely have a positive message, very positive. But it's positive for the middle class, not the wealthy ruling elite.

And Bernie is not proposing socialism, unless "socialism" to you means what they have in Scandinavia, Canada, most of Europe like UK, Germany, etc. Bernie is proposing to do what the people want in regards to medicare for all, low cost or free college tuition, taxing the wealthy and corporations their fair share, etc.

Bernie beats Trump in every poll and has done so for years, going back to before the last election. Given a fair chance, Bernie will beat Trump in this election.
 
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Bernie (and AOC for that matter) definitely have a positive message, very positive. But it's positive for the middle class, not the wealthy ruling elite.

And Bernie is not proposing socialism, unless "socialism" to you means what they have in Scandinavia, Canada, most of Europe like UK, Germany, etc. Bernie is proposing to do what the people want in regards to medicare for all, low cost or free college tuition, taxing the wealthy and corporations their fair share, etc.

Bernie beats Trump in every poll and has done so for years, going back to before the last election. Given a fair chance, Bernie will beat Trump in this election.
Biden and Bernie are too old ... of they were ten years younger they'd still lose.
You still don't get it, lowering taxes grows the economy - like Trump has proven in a short time. Removing regulations, lowering corporate taxes, frees capitalism to flourish. We have the lowest unemployment across the board, the highest stock market growth ever. Dems still don't get it.
 
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More fake news! You got nothing. Everyone is starting to realize the propaganda the media is trying to push is a house of cards and a strong wind is about to blow it down.
I didn't vote for him the first time and I won't vote for him in 2020.
 
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Biden and Bernie are too old ... of they were ten years younger they'd still lose.
You're wrong on several counts. Nobody is "too old" to be president - there is no age maximum on being president so you're wrong about that right off the bat.

And actually both of them would win. Polls show either Biden or Bernie would win by a large gap - Biden 50% to Trump's 38% and Bernie 48% to Trump's 38%.

You still don't get it, lowering taxes grows the economy - like Trump has proven in a short time. Removing regulations, lowering corporate taxes, frees capitalism to flourish. We have the lowest unemployment across the board, the highest stock market growth ever. Dems still don't get it.
You still don't get it. The economy "growth" is artificial. The disparity in wage growth between the middle class and wealthy is similar to that just before the Great Depression. The stock market is soaring while the majority of people, i.e. the middle class, is getting poorer. That is not a growing economy, that's a recipe for disaster, i.e. a recession or more likely a depression.

Capitalism without regulation puts money in the driver's seat. Money is not God. Money motivates people by their greed, i.e. their love of money. The Bible calls that the root of all evil. We need to rein in capitalist policy with policy that puts human life first, as the Bible teaches. Conservatives still don't get it.
 
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Maybe there's something wrong over there?
Just a thought.
M-Bob
Nothing wrong over there. Maybe something's wrong on the other side? Just a thought.
 
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The Democrat's model government:
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Do you want live in a strong country or one built like a house of cards?
It's actually the Republican model government which is built like a house of cards. They want to run up the deficit to give tax cuts to the wealthy who don't need or deserve them and then collect it on the backs of the middle class by eliminating the services we have paid for, like Social Security and Medicare. That's stealing from the poor and redistributing it to the rich. They want to tax the middle class but give corporations a tax break to the point that the wealthiest companies like Amazon pay nothing in taxes.

Republicans believe in socialism, they just believe in redistributing money from the middle class to their wealthy friends and themselves. That's what's going on in our oligarchy today.
 
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You still don't get it. The economy "growth" is artificial.





The disparity in wage growth between the middle class and wealthy is similar to that just before the Great Depression. The stock market is soaring while the majority of people, i.e. the middle class, is getting poorer. That is not a growing economy, that's a recipe for disaster, i.e. a recession or more likely a depression.

Capitalism without regulation puts money in the driver's seat. Money is not God. Money motivates people by their greed, i.e. their love of money. The Bible calls that the root of all evil. We need to rein in capitalist policy with policy that puts human life first, as the Bible teaches. Conservatives still don't get it.

Might be time to change the channel?
Just heard today
expect for the economy to take off real soon.

As if it is not doing great already.

M-Bob
 
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Might be time to change the channel?
Just heard today
expect for the economy to take off real soon.

As if it is not doing great already.

M-Bob
It's doing great already? We can't even afford health care. As for what you've "heard", well, sometimes we all have a hard time hearing things.

Where's the economy supposed to be taking off to? China?
 
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Well, America will vote for Trump, not because they all like him, but because the alternative is nothing short of the rape, pillage and plunder of a great nation.

Yeah those globalists want our wealth to redistribute to other countries, America cannot be allowed to remain a superpower that defeats their plans.
 
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Bernie (and AOC for that matter) definitely have a positive message, very positive. But it's positive for the middle class, not the wealthy ruling elite.

And Bernie is not proposing socialism, unless "socialism" to you means what they have in Scandinavia, Canada, most of Europe like UK, Germany, etc. Bernie is proposing to do what the people want in regards to medicare for all, low cost or free college tuition, taxing the wealthy and corporations their fair share, etc.

Bernie beats Trump in every poll and has done so for years, going back to before the last election. Given a fair chance, Bernie will beat Trump in this election.

Finland: Government Collapses Over Universal Health Care Costs, #Bernie2020 Hardest Hit

Looks like Bernie stuck his foot in his mouth, as usual.
 
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