God loves everyone?

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What has Athens to do with Jerusalem?
“The greatest sorrow and burden you can lay on the Father, the greatest unkindness you can do to him is not to believe that he loves you.” - John Owen

Ironic, given your quote at the bottom of your post, if you indeed believe God hates sinners.
 
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Christ died once for all.

"In those days a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered." - Luke 2:1

How many Chinese, Ethiopian, and Indian people were registered?

"...and you will be hated by all for my name's sake." - Matthew 10:22

I suppose Christians will hate me too?

All doesn't always mean all in every sense possible.
 
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“The greatest sorrow and burden you can lay on the Father, the greatest unkindness you can do to him is not to believe that he loves you.” - John Owen

Ironic, given your quote at the bottom of your post, if you indeed believe God hates sinners.

How was it ironic? John Owen held that God only loved the elect. The quote refers to the believer.
 
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Because that verse doesn't mean what you think it means. What Paul is getting at is that God can offer salvation to everyone if he wants, not just to Israel. You all have it exactly backwards.
You act as if it’s owed.
 
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For those that died in the Flood, we know with certainty there was a new chance given (after mortal death): 1 Peter 3:19-20. Some even think this is only an example group, to illustrate that all never having heard the gospel may get to hear it in that situation, as a spirit in prison, and respond (or not) individually. Also for even more context, consider how Christ spoke of it being easier for some cities like Sodom in the Day of Judgement than for villages/cities that rejected Him in person during His teaching time. (Matthew 10:15).
1 Peter 3:19 is referring to spirits (fallen angels) in prison (Tararus, the lowest part of Hades), that Jesus pronounced judgment upon. Jesus did not preach to those lost souls in Hades waiting for Judgment - What would be the point - Did He change His mind and give them a second chance? No!
Remember Hades had two compartments: one filled with the faithless wicked and the other being filled with thise who lived by faith (at Abraham's Bosom). When Jesus died, He released those in Hades,and with the gates of Heaven being open brought them to Paradise. He told the thief next to Him on the cross, "Truly, truly, Today you shal l be with Me in Paradise." LUKE 23:43
Also 2 PETER 2:4-6; JUDE 1:6,7
 
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“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
— John 3:16

The boastful shall not stand before Your eyes;
You hate all who do iniquity. You destroy those who speak falsehood;
The Lord abhors the man of bloodshed and deceit.
— Psalm 5:5-6

“For God so loved [those that do not do iniquity], that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life."

it seems to have lost it's lustre.
 
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“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
— John 3:16

The boastful shall not stand before Your eyes;
You hate all who do iniquity. You destroy those who speak falsehood;
The Lord abhors the man of bloodshed and deceit.
— Psalm 5:5-6

Did Jesus love his enemies?

A Lutheran friend put it quite nicely. "God loves and hates everyone. He hates us for the sinful nature, but loves us because of the cross of Jesus."
 
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John 3:16 refers to mankind in general, not every individual person, as the context is a conversation between Jesus and a Jewish teacher about salvation.

If God loved every human being ever born, then all would have been saved by the blood of Jesus.
So wait we’re saying God doesn’t love everyone? I would be interested in the scripture that explains that scripture actually meant mankind and not individual people. Thanks
 
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The term "love" in Scripture isn't a warm, fuzzy, emotional feeling God has for people. It is an action. If God loves all people the same, then all people would enjoy the same acts of his benevolence - including salvation. God's love for Israel were all the peculiar blessings and promises he made only to them that no other nation could have enjoyed.

The problem with Christ dying for every person is that you still have people going to hell. That's double jeopardy. When Scripture says "all" it means it in a general way.
Does scripture explain that when “all” is used it is being used in a general sense? If you can post that scripture as well I’d appreciate so I can check it out. Thanks.
 
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Calvinism is a failed doctrine, but no, God does not love everyone. He potentially makes his love available to everyone, but as it plays out, not all receive it. For God so loved the world is saying God loves mankind. I have an apple tree in my yard. I love apples. It is my will that all the apples are perfect. It doesn't happen. Many apples there I have no interest or affection for at all. They are of no regard to me. Yet if you ask me if I love apples I will say yes and I will be telling the truth.
Can you post scripture that God is talking about mankind and not everyone? Thanks
 
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God created some people only to send them to Hell.

This is the natural flow of scripture and logic...if you believe that God is omniscient.

Definition of omniscient
1 : having infinite awareness, understanding, and insight
an omniscient author
the narrator seems an omniscient person who tells us about the characters and their relations
— Ira Konigsberg
2 : possessed of universal or complete knowledge
the omniscient God

Yours in the Lord,

jm
You really believe God is this way?
 
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If God loved every human being ever born, then all would have been saved by the blood of Jesus.

Yes, it's hard for me to believe that God loves the ones who are heading to hell.

Although for one being called and still breathing
it's not to late to repent.

M-Bob
 
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No, but God's love is much more vast than you suppose.
You think it’s owed. You think it would make God unjust to save one and not the other.
 
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“For God so loved [those that do not do iniquity], that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life."

it seems to have lost it's lustre.
You forgot about those He abhors.
 
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Did Jesus love his enemies?

A Lutheran friend put it quite nicely. "God loves and hates everyone. He hates us for the sinful nature, but loves us because of the cross of Jesus."
That doesn’t explain the scripture.
 
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