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simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua
Same Creator.Your post clearly demonstrates the great difference between God as perceived by Old Testament Jews, and God as revealed by Jesus Christ.
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Same Creator.Your post clearly demonstrates the great difference between God as perceived by Old Testament Jews, and God as revealed by Jesus Christ.
If it's so accurate, correct, and specific surely you can show us where.Yet not all of His enemies - Scripture, God's Word, is very accurate, correct, and specific.
If you're looking to engage me in meaningful dialog you'll have to knock off the quick quips and veiled points.No. Not accurate enough.
No.For those that died in the Flood, we know with certainty there was a new chance given (after mortal death): 1 Peter 3:19-20.
How many times is it written that Yahuweh loved His enemies, OT or NT ? Even those who sought to crucify Yahushua Hamashiach !?If it's so accurate, correct, and specific surely you can show us where
...If you're looking to engage me in meaningful dialog you'll have to knock off the quick quips and veiled points.....
You are avoiding the obvious. In your system, God is just ripping out your heart and implanting a newIts irresistible because you see nothing better than what God gives. If your heart longs for it, you will pursue it.
As long as you remain unregenerate, you are "forced" to live a rebellious sinful life in hostility against God and his laws. Isn't that how you lived before you were saved? Enslaved to sin. God made you free in Christ from living that life.
I'll stay with the clear-enough direct wording --No.
Not likely. Not even possible.
There's other explanations of that that does not contradict any Scripture.
"free in Christ" to some means , to them, their free will is tossed out (their chip in their heart or brain is replaced with a chip that cannot choose any more who to follow... it just does what it is programmed to do....You are avoiding the obvious. In your system, God is just ripping out your heart and implanting a new
one. It's as if I could implant a chip in my wife's brain that programmed her to have loving feelings for me. Not as if she made a choice to love me. If God implants the "love me" card in your heart, then you express love for him, but it's really just compliance. You didn't choose to love him.
I'm not, I'm showing that Jesus upped the ante so to speak, by showing us more of himself than David or any of the OT Saints could see. Jesus said, Matthew 5:43Why deny His Word ? Why continually fight against His Word ?
...I'm not, I'm showing that Jesus upped the ante so to speak, by showing us more of himself than David or any of the OT Saints could see. Jesus said, Matthew 5:43
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
You are avoiding the obvious. In your system, God is just ripping out your heart and implanting a new
one. It's as if I could implant a chip in my wife's brain that programmed her to have loving feelings for me. Not as if she made a choice to love me. If God implants the "love me" card in your heart, then you express love for him, but it's really just compliance. You didn't choose to love him.
I don't know. How many? And where?How many times is it written that Yahuweh loved His enemies, OT or NT ? Even those who sought to crucify Yahushua Hamashiach !?
I don't fit that category. But I do want to engage in dialog - if you are willing to talk straight.Most of the members/ posters/ who have ideas , doctrines, dogmas, or teachings opposed to Christ Jesus
do not want to engage in truth seeking dialog.
Of course.Those who are seeking the truth, and keep seeking the truth, find the truth. This is Yahuweh's Promise
Since you're bent on bashing Calvinism - you really should get what they teach right.
Every natural man has the ability to free reject the gift according to Calvinism.
The point made in their teaching point called "total depravity" is that natural men can't accept it unless they somehow become "unnatural" by the grace of God.
Although the grace extended is indeed irresistible in that it is done supernaturally in secret - the actual impulse to accept the gift itself is indeed resistible to a certain degree. After all - Paul kicked against the goads for some time before finally believing on Christ.
Partial List:I don't know. How many? And where?
Yes, he will, but not unless one humbles himself and receives the new heart. This passage is actually about Israel. Does every Jew receive salvation? In fact, Paul has to keep reiterating that God had not failed just because most of Israel did not come to faith, but that God was faithful even if most of his people were not."I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean from all your uncleannesses, and from all your idols I will cleanse you. And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to obey my rules."
- Ezekiel 36:25-27
I suppose your contention is with God, not me.
Yes, he will, but not unless one humbles himself and receives the new heart. This passage is actually about Israel. Does every Jew receive salvation? In fact, Paul has to keep reiterating that God had not failed just because most of Israel did not come to faith, but that God was faithful even if most of his people were not.
God hates evil/injustice-He didn't create it and will not allow it to persist forever. But it's also said that evil grieves God's heart; because He made man good. But we can corrupt that; we can embrace evil and become less than we were created to be, something to be cast away-or not. That's both the beauty and the danger of free will.“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
— John 3:16
The boastful shall not stand before Your eyes;
You hate all who do iniquity. You destroy those who speak falsehood;
The Lord abhors the man of bloodshed and deceit.
— Psalm 5:5-6
Everything that happens in the history of the creation was predestined to happen.Resistible to a certain degree, but destined to happen or not happen?
You are wrong. The predestination of every thought and action taken by men in no way negates the free choices of men.this is not where Calvinism leads. It leads the determinism, where every thought and action is really pre decided for you.
Indeed I have.Perhaps you have just not gone deep enough into the endless pit that it is.
I guess it depends on what is meant by hate since 1 John says a murderer has no eternal life in him, and hating is the same as murdering apparently.“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
— John 3:16
The boastful shall not stand before Your eyes;
You hate all who do iniquity. You destroy those who speak falsehood;
The Lord abhors the man of bloodshed and deceit.
— Psalm 5:5-6