Proof of Climate Change hoax

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Think about how CO2 levels are increasing. It is coming from manmade industries, not nature. And it has, by itself, been killing animals.
Sorry C for C... I disagree. It's just a tidbit of skewed data that they are using to manipulate the masses.

If you stop and think... CO2 is great for plants..... Then, plants give off O2... We also eat plants and my food eats plants...

0.04%.... that's a very small amount.. Then.. a rise of 0.002%... is even more negligible.
 
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Sorry C for C... I disagree. It's just a tidbit of skewed data that they are using to manipulate the masses.

If you stop and think... CO2 is great for plants..... Then, plants give off O2... We also eat plants and my food eats plants...

0.04%.... that's a very small amount.. Then.. a rise of 0.002%... is even more negligible.

You are not thinking about the fact that this is more than just an increase of CO2 in the atmosphere. It is causing a dangerous thinning of the ozone layer. The effect of that problem is harming animals.
 
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When I put up a home weather station, I had to ensure that it was not being influenced by variables that would skew the data. Check out these NOAA weather stations that would be seriously affected and give improper data:

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If you claim that the temperature readings are affected by external entities such as concrete, air conditioning, e.t.c.

Then you are saying that man made entities influence the local climate around that weather station.

Since the local climate is influenced by man made structures, then it is logical that on the larger scale. That vast man made cities, deforestation, road networks, industrial areas, e.t.c. Will directly drive up temperature rises on a global scale.

Your arguing for a permanent environmental climate change due to man's influence, in your post without even realizing what your doing.
 
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Sorry C for C... I disagree. It's just a tidbit of skewed data that they are using to manipulate the masses.

If you stop and think... CO2 is great for plants..... Then, plants give off O2... We also eat plants and my food eats plants...

0.04%.... that's a very small amount.. Then.. a rise of 0.002%... is even more negligible.
Yes, but CO2 is absorbed by forests which we cut down, so the proportion of CO2 in the atmosphere just keeps increasing.

We only need a few hundred parts per million of CO2 in the atmosphere to trigger temperature rises.

Forests are carbon sinks and for some reason we don't like forests, so we cut them all down.
 
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I agree. This scam is just one of a multi-pronged effort to TAKE CONTROL. God can hit us over the head with Scripture after Scripture about the corruption of man, but some will insist we should trust whatever scientists say.
Don't believe the scientists.

Just check on a global scale yourself, the coral reefs, the glaciers, recorded heatwaves, e.t.c.

Then get back to me and we will have the evidence to refute the scientists.
 
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I brought this up once before, but, here it goes:

Our government lies to us, our parents lie to us, our Clergy lies to us, and we lie to ourselves. However, if you mention that scientists lie to us you will be called every name in the book. For some reason, many people can't accept that possibility.

That reason is that science has become their religion, and there God.

I'm waiting!
Past climate predictions by scientists.

As far as predicting the climate change that the world would undergo, the climate scientists were wildly wrong. The temperature rises around the world were much greater than even their extreme predictions from twenty years ago predicted.

I don't believe we can stop it now.
 
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I brought this up once before, but, here it goes:

Our government lies to us, our parents lie to us, our Clergy lies to us, and we lie to ourselves. However, if you mention that scientists lie to us you will be called every name in the book. For some reason, many people can't accept that possibility.

That reason is that science has become their religion, and there God.

I'm waiting!
The thermometer does not lie.
 
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The thermometer does not lie.

You are only counting data from say 1860, which does not even register on geological time. Besides, Oceans are the drivers of climate, not my lawn mower, or farting cows (both of which have been mentioned as contributing factors. Heat waves have happened since the beginning, so have cold spells.
 
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Past climate predictions by scientists.

As far as predicting the climate change that the world would undergo, the climate scientists were wildly wrong. The temperature rises around the world were much greater than even their extreme predictions from twenty years ago predicted.

I don't believe we can stop it now.

It will end itself, because heating, and cooling happen naturally.
 
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DA... I am not countering the fact that the Gospel and Christ are the solid truth.

I'm trying to shed light on the fact that the powers that be and their money is manipulating the people of this world for an agenda that does not have the best interest of civilians in mind.
I wouldn't contest any of what you've said here. I just have observed that political discussions (especially online, where people have lots of insulation) seem to bring out the worst in people, sometimes Christians, especially. Of course, it's allowed here, so we'll just have to pray real hard for each other, won't we?
 
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Yes, well the world thinks it is over-populated. I guess if we lived in India or China, we'd think that too.
So what does the world do to lower populations? Birth control is key, but then that wasn't enough so they instituted abortions. That's not enough, so they want to abort in any term - even after birth. And then there is euthanasia - get rid of the elderly ... they cost too much, are'nt productive anymore - heck they lived a good life ... why not put a cap on age?
Do they really want cures for cancer, heart disease and many other diseases - that they've worked on for 100 years? Or do they just want to make money and allow mass amounts of people to be victims, sustain diseases and minimally cure some, while millions suffer and die from their negligence. Do they want to empty hospitals? Do they desire to rid us of disease so that BIG PHARMA will not be necessary? And then you wonder when a genocide occurs were hundreds of thousands or millions are killed and the world turns their back on them, waits until they kill each other off before they get involved - "A few less million will due fine ... let it go on awhile longer ... or just plain ignore all together".
So all these things are on the table to curtail the growth of population.
If this One World Government becomes a reality, control, not only of your weapons will take place, but your freedom to live may be subject to control. Can you imagine a committee put together to decide whether you are viable, worthy of life, of a cure if you're sick or an age is set to euthanize you and then as time goes on that age goes down. Or more diabolical schemes to use biological plagues to rid massive amounts of people in countries they determine are not productive ... "Oh well, the numbers are getting close to our limits, so we have to eradicate a couple hundred million - we can use that land for farming". Sound like a Sci-fi movie?
Don't worry, the Lord will intervene before that.
They also like and promote homosexuality, since those people do not reproduce.
The apostles also talk about the current evil age in which they lived, and its not gotten any better, not in 2000 years.

Galatians 1:3-5 New King James Version (NKJV)
3 Grace to you and peace from God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ, 4 who gave Himself for our sins, that He might deliver us from this present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father, 5 to whom be glory forever and ever. Amen.

So if anyone tells you we are living in the millennial kingdom reign of Christ ruling on this earth today, you can just ignore what they say as a lie.
 
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You are only counting data from say 1860, which does not even register on geological time. Besides, Oceans are the drivers of climate, not my lawn mower, or farting cows (both of which have been mentioned as contributing factors. Heat waves have happened since the beginning, so have cold spells.
What you said is on the surface is partly correct.

We have ice cores, tree rings, e.t.c., that allow us to go back much further in time than 1860.

What really matters is the acceleration in climate change over the last twenty years. It is this rapid rise in temperature over the last twenty years that is disturbing the scientists.

This temperature rise in the last twenty years cannot possibly continue because if it does keep climbing. Then the only outcome is increasing ocean temperature and decreasing polar ice mass.

Both rising ocean temperature and melting ice shelves will have a catastrophic impact on humanity in the decades to come.

For this very reason the scientists have launched and are launching satellites purely to monitor ocean temperatures and ice masses.

Year on year the data collected is painting a very grim, future climate picture.

No one can deny the rising ocean temperature and that the ice is melting.

Politicians don't want to know about climate change because the remedy is far too drastic and costly for society.

Industrialists are the last people on earth that want to hear the phrase 'climate change'.

Even the scientists don't like what they are seeing.

This is not some conspiracy because there is no one behind any climate conspiracy.

Your opinion on climate change is simply pointless, the same goes for the governments around the world. They could not stop it anyway, not with the world population increasing and prosperity rising around the world.
 
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Don't believe the scientists.

I don't. Most of them are unbelievers either with an agenda or under the thumb of one. God will inflict His wrath in due time, and then the climate will CHANGE in a catastrophic fashion. Before then, puny Man isn't going to inflict so much as a scratch on the earth in comparison.
 
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You are not thinking about the fact that this is more than just an increase of CO2 in the atmosphere. It is causing a dangerous thinning of the ozone layer. The effect of that problem is harming animals.
I have heard nothing of the sort. I have not heard of thinning Ozone since the turn of the century. Nor have I heard of animals at risk... just my hard earned money.
 
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I have heard nothing of the sort. I have not heard of thinning Ozone since the turn of the century. Nor have I heard of animals at risk... just my hard earned money.

Because you are not paying attention. There is actually a hole in the oxone layer.
 
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If you claim that the temperature readings are affected by external entities such as concrete, air conditioning, e.t.c.

Then you are saying that man made entities influence the local climate around that weather station.

Since the local climate is influenced by man made structures, then it is logical that on the larger scale. That vast man made cities, deforestation, road networks, industrial areas, e.t.c. Will directly drive up temperature rises on a global scale.

Your arguing for a permanent environmental climate change due to man's influence, in your post without even realizing what your doing.
I', saying that the temperature readings are false due to the fact that the data collected is skewed and influenced by unnatural local heat sources like A/C unit vents, parking lots and pavement... improper weather station set up.
 
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Yes, but CO2 is absorbed by forests which we cut down, so the proportion of CO2 in the atmosphere just keeps increasing.[/quote]

Not any more than it used to... and don't forget that one large forest fire is releasing immense amounts of smoke.. way more than man... but you hear none of that.... it's still my little ICE.

We only need a few hundred parts per million of CO2 in the atmosphere to trigger temperature rises.

Bull tarts...... The Pacific ocean alone is so large of a heat sink that it trumps a 0.002% rise in a gas that makes up 0.04% of the atmosphere.

Forests are carbon sinks and for some reason we don't like forests, so we cut them all down.

Get up to speed. Forestation has changed so much that you cannot even tell when you are in an area of forest that has been harvested. The clear cuts are gone.

But, natural forest fires are still hear.. Funny... never hear what they contribute when I can smell the smoke half way across the country of Canada.
 
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Because you are not paying attention. There is actually a hole in the oxone layer.
That was from the space shuttle and air planes... from what I remember in the 80's... just about the same time chicken little was running around shouting "Ice age... ice age".
 
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