Survey on Catholic belief in the Eucharist promotes call for better catechesis

[Michie]

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Sixty-nine percent of Catholics in a Pew Research Study reported their belief that the bread and wine used during the Eucharist "are symbols of the body and blood of Jesus Christ."

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Survey on Catholic Belief in the Eucharist Prompts Calls for Better Catechesis

 

[chevyontheriver]

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Sixty-nine percent of Catholics in a Pew Research Study reported their belief that the bread and wine used during the Eucharist "are symbols of the body and blood of Jesus Christ."

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Survey on Catholic Belief in the Eucharist Prompts Calls for Better Catechesis

While it isn't a surprise it is now undeniable the level of ignorance among so many people who call themselves Catholic. Can we finally conclude that there has been a massive catechetical failure and try some things which work? We have a magnificent Catechism of the Catholic Church that has been practically ignored by many bishops and priests. They need to retire early and can be replaced with believing pastors. Or even a believing lay administrator in the interim until new priests can be formed in the real faith. Or would Mr. McCarrick and friends object?

 

[pdudgeon]

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Sixty-nine percent of Catholics in a Pew Research Study reported their belief that the bread and wine used during the Eucharist "are symbols of the body and blood of Jesus Christ."

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Survey on Catholic Belief in the Eucharist Prompts Calls for Better Catechesis

Hmmm, I think what would have been really interesting to read in that article is the missing part: a quote of the original question in the survey, and how it is phrased.

Unless I am mistaken, Pew Research Study is a Protestant organization. If that is correct, then it would stand to reason that their questions in their surveys would be coming from a Protestant point of view, which would of course skew the results that are obtained.

I went through my parish's RCIA program, so of course I know about the Real Presence, Transubstantiation, etc.
I think it's absolutely amazing, and knowing what really happens gives me even MORE deep respect for the Eucharist.

 

[charsan]

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Sixty-nine percent of Catholics in a Pew Research Study reported their belief that the bread and wine used during the Eucharist "are symbols of the body and blood of Jesus Christ."

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Survey on Catholic Belief in the Eucharist Prompts Calls for Better Catechesis

Wow, they are becoming evangelicals. Yikes!

 

[chevyontheriver]

Wow, they are becoming evangelicals. Yikes!

I kind of doubt that these folks would make great evangelicals. Great Nones perhaps, but I kind of doubt most would really fit with the evangelicals.

 

[Gnarwhal]

I wonder if the issue has just as much to do with the lackadaisical and overly-permissive manner of the hierarchy as it is poor catechesis?

I feel like a good Pope would be real cutthroat in his intolerance of this sort of thing. Wouldn't a good Pope put a lot of people, including the laity who were polled, on blast for getting something so foundational so profoundly wrong? I mean, at the risk of sounding arrogant, I know I would if I were the Pope.

I think of (the fictional) Pius XIII from The Young Pope who decreed that the Church would be a lot smaller thereafter because he was no longer going to tolerate the lack of faith and morals among the people. For too long the "faithful" were in a one-sided relationship with the Church, reaping the benefits of the Catholic faith without investing the work. He seemed to be pointing back to a time of religious zeal that was common during the crusades, and I'm all for that in real life.

 

[chevyontheriver]

I wonder if the issue has just as much to do with the lackadaisical and overly-permissive manner of the hierarchy as it is poor catechesis?

I feel like a good Pope would be real cutthroat in his intolerance of this sort of thing. Wouldn't a good Pope put a lot of people, including the laity who were polled, on blast for getting something so foundational so profoundly wrong? I mean, at the risk of sounding arrogant, I know I would if I were the Pope.

I think of (the fictional) Pius XIII from The Young Pope who decreed that the Church would be a lot smaller thereafter because he was no longer going to tolerate the lack of faith and morals among the people. For too long the "faithful" were in a one-sided relationship with the Church, reaping the benefits of the Catholic faith without investing the work. He seemed to be pointing back to a time of religious zeal that was common during the crusades, and I'm all for that in real life.

John Paul and Benedict were great and good popes. Without them it would have been worse. But even an excellent Pius XIII won't fix this any time soon. One has to ask what the roots are of this exceptionally bad catechesis of the 70's and 80's and even persisting in large pockets today. Then to undo the roots. I suspect that will be the same solution as for the sex abuse crisis and the bad bishop crisis.

 

[eastcoast_bsc]

Now if there is no resurrection, what will those do who are baptized for the dead? If the dead are not raised at all, why are people baptized for them? 30 And as for us, why do we endanger ourselves every hour? 31 I face death every day—yes, just as surely as I boast about you in Christ Jesus our Lord. 32 If I fought wild beasts in Ephesus with no more than human hopes, what have I gained? If the dead are not raised,

“Let us eat and drink,
for tomorrow we die.

 

[Michie]

Just bumping this up guys. Seems every thread with any conversation is repeatedly moved off the page.

 

[Davidnic]

I found this to be interesting.