Epstein dead, Cortez wants answers.

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That's cynical on your part. You probably are completely correct that Epstein had ample testimony against Trump & other Republicans. However, it's reasonable to be mad on account of how Epstein's victims deserved justice.

I plead guilty to being a big cynic. Not proud, but not ashamed. :D

Him dying in such an ignominious way should bring closure to some.
 
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You may not see it, but you're paying her a great compliment with this statement.

I don't see how pointing out that she is dangerous to her own party is a compliment.
 
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CNN says he was taken off suicide watch at the end July. I think the main question is going to be whether that was the right decision. That will depend upon the policy and specifics of his case, which I'm in no position to speculate on.
 
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If he did attempt suicide he would be denied any means to try it again. That means someone provided the means, or he was very resourceful.

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I don't see how pointing out that she is dangerous to her own party is a compliment.

I know you don't see that as a compliment. That's the whole problem. Folks have become so tribal-minded that they don't think about what is right or what is wrong, what is the best thing to do for the country. They only think along the lines of their tribe. What helps their tribe, what hurts their tribe. You've made the effort to show that that isn't the case with AOC, that her loyalty here isn't to her party but to doing what is right. It's uplifting.
 
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My first thought was that he was allowed the means for a successful attempt by someone.
The article says he tried suicide and so he was put on suicide watch. So, they were responsible to keep an eye on him, however they were. But I would say there are different levels of precaution, depending on each case. How hard and how well he tried could have been a factor in how closely they were ordered to keep an eye on him and control of him.

So, I would think it will automatically be investigated.

And he was involved in trafficking minors for sex? So, it could have been important to keep him alive so he could be used to get information to stop others from trafficking minors for sex. Faking or allowing his suicide could be helping the minors for sex trade.

And the article says he killed himself, the "day after" significant victim testimony got released, telling more about the operation which he was said to be been involved with. So, that testimony release could help to increase his resolve to kill himself. Possibly, since at first there was not so much evidence, they maybe felt he would not be so motivated to commit suicide, and so they gave him a lower precaution arrangement. But when the new testimony came in, that might have provoked him to be more committed than they had expected, but they did not update the precaution level . . . maybe. Actually, the article does not get into levels of precaution for this case.
 
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That's cynical on your part. You probably are completely correct that Epstein had ample testimony against Trump & other Republicans. However, it's reasonable to be mad on account of how Epstein's victims deserved justice.
Good post.
Do the crime, do the time......
Either here on earth or there down below........or both

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LUKE 16:
19 "There was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and fared sumptuously every day."
24 "Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am anguished in this flame.' "
25 "But Abraham said, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented.


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Or the opportunity to know what other men have been sexually exploiting minors dies away with Epstein (although I'm sure the people in his orbit know about as much or more of the clients). I don't think it matters if these sexual predators are Republican or Democratic members, they are sexual predators and must be brought to justice.
Perhaps more people that were associated with him, other than the victims, may be more apt to come forward since his demise. :|

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I know you don't see that as a compliment. That's the whole problem. Folks have become so tribal-minded that they don't think about what is right or what is wrong, what is the best thing to do for the country. They only think along the lines of their tribe. What helps their tribe, what hurts their tribe. You've made the effort to show that that isn't the case with AOC, that her loyalty here isn't to her party but to doing what is right. It's uplifting.

I think she's going to keep herself at the center of attention by any means possible.
 
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I think she's going to keep herself at the center of attention by any means possible.

Well, you are the one who made this thread to give her attention. Trump's base has done more to put her at the center of attention by any means possible more than any publicity firm in the world ever could.
 
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I think she's going to keep herself at the center of attention by any means possible.
She does a good thing. And you're bugged by this. Why?
 
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Well, you are the one who made this thread to give her attention. Trump's base has done more to put her at the center of attention by any means possible more than any publicity firm in the world ever could.

Trump (not his base) is also an attention "seeker". ;)
 
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There's nothing good about politicizing a legal matter that's none of her business.

It's absolutely good that she wants answers on this. It is her business. It's our business. He hurt a lot of folks who will never get the opportunity now to face him. If you think you have the right to make a thread about it, to speak about it, then she has just as much right to do the same.
 
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