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You interpret those words to mean things that 'you' think they mean....Sola Flare etc etc.
I dont see that. Scripture is being misinterpreted again and again.
Is Revelation meant to be taken 100% literally?
Very much so (literally). The enemies of Christ made up a lot of myths thousands of years ago that still are popular today, for the purpose of deceiving people all along.

Those who trust in the myths/ deceptions, cannot see the truth of Scripture unless God grants it to them. No one can actually, unless the Father in heaven grants it.
 
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I think the 7 years will begin before the end of 2030. At the end of the 7 years Jesus returns.
Maybe. But dates past 2030 put the Return past the 2000 years prophesied in Hosea 6:2 and Luke 13:32.

Yikes! Says LFW.
Yes, we need to be ready for the Lord to take action as soon as Iran goes to attack Israel with nuke missiles and all the weaponry of Iran's proxies. Psalms 83, Psalms 11:4-6 The terrible Day of fiery wrath will wipe them out and the world will never be the same again.
This will happen on an Appointed day, Habakkuk 2:3, so possibly the Day of Trumpets or Hanukkah.
 
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The problem being, is that since Christianity began, people such as yourself have been saying the exact same thing.....
WONDERFUL TESTIMONY YES YES YES ! THE SAME MESSAGE - THE SAME GOSPEL - THE SAME EXACT THING ever since the first century ! UNCHANGED,,

as GOD'S WORD is unchangeable TRUTH.

THANKS FOR THE TESTIMONY that he is "people such as yourself" - trusting GOD and HIS WORD< instead of tradition or falsehoods, EVER SINCE CHRISTIANITY BEGAN (and actually BEFORE THEN) ! YES ! YES ! AMEN ! HALLELUYAH !
 
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Your preterist beliefs make you think that the prophesies are fulfilled, despite there being no evidence of them happening as described in the Bible.
Are you saying there's no written account of the fulfillment in the Bible?

There is evidence of what Jesus was warning would happen (and history to back it up that it DID happen).
 
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There is evidence of what Jesus was warning would happen (and history to back it up that it DID happen).
Yes, so? This doesn't contradict what is going to happen, does it ?

I think he was referring to some false beliefs system, btw...... that deny what is going to happen.
 
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You interpret those words to mean things that 'you' think they mean....Sola Flare etc etc.
Isaiah 30:26 clearly says the sun will suddenly become 7 times brighter. Psalms 50:1-6
We know how the sun does occasionally emit solar flares and how they can affect the earth. The only literal explanation for all the 100+ prophesies about the Lord's Day of fiery wrath, is a Coronal Mass Ejection of an unprecedented magnitude. Joel 2:2
If you reject these truths, you simply reject the warnings given to us, to be prepared spiritually and physically for what must happen. Isaiah 26:20-21
 
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Isaiah 39:26 clearly says the sun will suddenly become 7 times brighter. Psalms 50:1-6
We know how the sun does occasionally emit solar flares and how they can affect the earth. The only literal explanation for all the 100+ prophesies about the Lord's Day of fiery wrath, is a Coronal Mass Ejection of an unprecedented magnitude. Joel 2:2
If you reject these truths, you simply reject the warnings given to us, to be prepared spiritually and physically for what must happen. Isaiah 26:20-21

Again, that is 'your' opinion on the matter.
 
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Are you saying there's no written account of the fulfillment in the Bible?

There is evidence of what Jesus was warning would happen (and history to back it up that it DID happen).
What Jesus warned of about the Roman conquest and the Jewish dispersion, did happen. All the rest, incl Revelation, didn't yet.
There has been no cosmic events yet, let alone the huge earthly disruptions.
 
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Very much so (literally). The enemies of Christ made up a lot of myths thousands of years ago that still are popular today, for the purpose of deceiving people all along.

Those who trust in the myths/ deceptions, cannot see the truth of Scripture unless God grants it to them. No one can actually, unless the Father in heaven grants it.

I disagree. Revelation cannot be read or taken literally. There is more to it than black and white my dear friend.
 
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Maybe. But dates past 2030 put the Return past the 2000 years prophesied in Hosea 6:2 and Luke 13:32.

Yikes! Says LFW.
Yes, we need to be ready for the Lord to take action as soon as Iran goes to attack Israel with nuke missiles and all the weaponry of Iran's proxies. Psalms 83, Psalms 11:4-6 The terrible Day of fiery wrath will wipe them out and the world will never be the same again.
This will happen on an Appointed day, Habakkuk 2:3, so possibly the Day of Trumpets or Hanukkah.

Where do you get Iran from? Again, its 'your' opinion.
 
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Nope, in fact Revelation nor any of the Bible was written to us in the 21st century

Very true indeed. People read it with 'modern' glasses on.
 
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All the rest, incl Revelation, didn't yet.
There has been no cosmic events yet, let alone the huge earthly disruptions.
The Bible is written in metaphoric/symbolic language. Revelation's plot line was to reveal Jesus and the New Covenant (do you NOT believe we are in the New Covenant?):

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It is important to understand that in the book of Revelation, as in other parts of sacred Scripture, the "passing away" of heaven and earth is not necessarily the end of the world as we know it, nor is it necessarily the dissolution of the existing universe. It was St. Peter' message in his great homily given during the Jewish Feast of Shavuot / Weeks (known as the Feast of Pentecost in the first century AD; see Acts 2:1) when he quoted from Joel 3:1-5 (Acts 2:16-21), announcing that the "Last Days" have come to mankind with the apocalyptic event of Jesus' death, resurrection, and ascension. St. Peter's message to the crowd of Jews on their way to the Temple to celebrate the feast that commemorated the giving of the Law at Mt. Sinai was that those of his generation were now living in the "new and final" age prophesied by the prophet Isaiah as the time of "new heavens and a new earth" (Is 65:17; 66:22).​

St. John's revelation is apocalyptic literature concerned with the apocalyptic events as they unfolded in the time after Jesus' ascension to the Father as the "gate" or "door of heaven" now stood open (Rev. 4:1)'the "door" of heaven having been closed since man's fall from grace in Eden but an event now made possible through Christ's sacrifice on the altar of the Cross (Catechism of the Catholic Church # 1026) ~ The Revelation of Jesus Christ to His Servant John - Introduction Part 1

Everything in Revelation has to be read through this filter: "A revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him so that He could tell His servants what is now to take place very soon; He sent His angel to make it known to His servant John, and John has borne witness to the Word of God and to the witness of Jesus Christ, everything that he saw (Rev 1:1).
 
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We are not friends. Your posts keep disagreeing with what I see clearly in Scripture.

We are all friends in Christ.

What you see 'clearly' is very different to what i see. I think what you see is clouded by what you believe. And what you believe may not be what others believe!
 
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