At least 9 dead, 26 injured in mass shooting in downtown Dayton, Ohio

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In the second mass shooting in less than 14 hours, at least nine people are dead and more than two dozen wounded after someone opened fire in downtown Dayton, Ohio, early Sunday, according to police.

At least 9 dead, 26 injured in mass shooting in downtown Dayton, Ohio

what will it take for this to end?
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“Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? Shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?” Amos 3:6 (KJV 1900)
 
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Its a normal event these days in the USA. Sorry to say but it doesnt surprise me at all.

USA needs to do something about its love of guns. Every one and their cat can get hold of a gun!

2nd amendment was for when you had flint lock weapons!! Its absolutely crazy when you see the love of guns in the United states. "A must have". Very sad.

People even take guns in God's house in the USA!!!
 
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Its a normal event these days in the USA. Sorry to say but it doesnt surprise me at all.

USA needs to do something about its love of guns. Every one and their cat can get hold of a gun!

2nd amendment was for when you had flint lock weapons!! Its absolutely crazy when you see the love of guns in the United states. "A must have". Very sad.

People even take guns in God's house in the USA!!!
Whatever gets done about guns, it cannot be allowed to interfere with the absolute right of wanna-be Minute Men to have the guns they need to defend themselves against the government.
 
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what will it take for this to end?
It will take a well regulated militia. They need to keep guns out of the hands of people that are not trained to use them for good and not evil.
 
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"There's just nothing that can be done to prevent these sorts of things because evil people will find a way no matter what"

- Only first world country where this regularly happens​
 
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Whatever gets done about guns, it cannot be allowed to interfere with the absolute right of wanna-be Minute Men to have the guns they need to defend themselves against the government.

Not a big problem here.
 
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"There's just nothing that can be done to prevent these sorts of things because evil people will find a way no matter what"

- Only first world country where this regularly happens​

Might have something to do with the "American Dream" not happening for these shooters.
 
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We can move forward in society when the death cult that has a fetish for guns stops dictating policy.

We could certainly move forward if we crafted laws that would enable us to put entire drug gangs in prison. A modified R.I.C.O would do the trick.

Chicago has mass killings nearly every weekend. And worse, there are multiple killers.

9 Killed, 39 Wounded In Weekend Shootings Across Chicago

Chicago weekend shootings leave 8 dead, 40 wounded

56 people were shot in Chicago over the weekend, including four fatally
 
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Might have something to do with the "American Dream" not happening for these shooters.

I think it has more to do with lack of a quality screening process.

Even when comparing ourselves to other first world countries with more permissive gun laws (though, I know the list is fairly short), we're still the standout when it comes to the frequency for which this occurs.

If you compare the US with the Czech Republic, it's an eye opener.

They, like us, allow ownership of handguns, shotguns, semi-auto rifles, etc...
They, like us, have "shall-issue" concealed carry permits.
They, like us, have roughly 3% of the population having said CCW permits
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They actually have a more permissive CCW system...they don't have gun free zones (you can carry in your kid's school if you're picking them up) and they have universal reciprocity among their administrative districts as where in the US, there are some states that you can't go to with your home state's permit.

What they do have, that we don't, is a thorough vetting process that acts as an "upstream check" before someone reaches "gun owner" status that involves extensive training, education, and clean bill of mental health from their physician.

The outcome is, a nation where you can pack heat, but that has only 1/5 the homicide rate (per capita) that we do, and a fraction of a percent of the mass shooting events.

Screening works when done properly. Even in the states that do enforce background checks, the FBI/NICS background check process is weak. There's no mandate for training required, there's no test to pass, and the only time a mental illness disqualifies you is if you've ever been involuntarily committed to an institution by a judge via court order.

Theoretically, a person with bipolar disorder can easily pass the background check in the majority of cases.
 
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Copycat crimes are common in situations like these.
yup sometimes I wonder what would happen if they did not make a big deal out of mass shootings. Not in the sense that it is not a big deal, but in the sense that there is not coverage ( except for local coverage and of course telling the families of any victims ( whether that particular victim is killed or not).
 
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We could certainly move forward if we crafted laws that would enable us to put entire drug gangs in prison. A modified R.I.C.O would do the trick.

Chicago has mass killings nearly every weekend. And worse, there are multiple killers.

9 Killed, 39 Wounded In Weekend Shootings Across Chicago

Chicago weekend shootings leave 8 dead, 40 wounded

56 people were shot in Chicago over the weekend, including four fatally
Or you could change the drug laws and end the failed war on drugs.
 
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Its a normal event these days in the USA. Sorry to say but it doesnt surprise me at all.

USA needs to do something about its love of guns. Every one and their cat can get hold of a gun!

2nd amendment was for when you had flint lock weapons!! Its absolutely crazy when you see the love of guns in the United states. "A must have". Very sad.

People even take guns in God's house in the USA!!!
Yes and no to mass shootings happening every day. Most sources define a mass shooting as four or more people killed OR injured. Yes, there is probably somewhere in the U.S. where that happens every day, but not all of those really fit what is covered.

As to taking guns into God's house yes I support that partly because bad guys do.
 
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It will take a well regulated militia. They need to keep guns out of the hands of people that are not trained to use them for good and not evil.
Sure, but that training does not need to be by the government. a lot of this comes down to mental health and gun safety.
 
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