Is the Earth flat or round???

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The word in Isaiah 40:22 is "circle". This means circuit. Something very close to this is the word for camel. A camel travels back and forth between two points. They call this to run and return. It is like our breath or our blood where oxygen is delivered to the body. This has to do with male and female where God makes them male and female and then He unites them together as one. Just like the Earth and the Moon are duel planets caught in a dance together. So they are separate but united together as one. Just like we have Heaven and Earth and Jesus prayed for the Earth to become like Heaven. "On Earth as Heaven". So there is a dichotomy involved here. Disney movies talk about the circle of life in lion king and something similar in Pocahontas color of the wind.
I always saw the Disney reference to "the circle of life" in the Lion King... as apostate.. There is no "circle of life.. you are conceived, are born, live, chose Christ or not, die and are judged.... it's a straight line...

Yes, the dirt we are made from returns to the earth... but... the "circle of life" in the Lion King... total deception and false.
 
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In particle physics, the observer effect, in general use, refers to any effect caused by the act of observation. ... The Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle states that the more accurately the momentum of a particle is measured the less accurately its position can be known & vice versa.
Very eloquent... however, what does this mean?
 
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Moses and Jesus are the only two people we can trust. There is a small number of people in the Bible that help us to understand what Moses and Jesus are telling us. We also have the Holy Spirit of God to be our Teacher, Helper and Guide. There is a library in Heaven that has all wisdom, knowledge and understand. So we have answers to any question and a solution to any problem. The Angels help us with that. Our Angel can go to that library to do research work for us.
Actually, every author of the canon is penning what is breathed by God... so the entire scripture is solid and can be trusted.. not just Moses and Jesus.

Well, Jesus was the word and the word is God.. and... the bible is the word... so.. my point is supported.. Every book, chapter and verse.... solid.
 
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I always saw the Disney reference to "the circle of life" in the Lion King... as apostate.. There is no "circle of life.. you are conceived, are born, live, chose Christ or not, die and are judged.... it's a straight line...

Yes, the dirt we are made from returns to the earth... but... the "circle of life" in the Lion King... total deception and false.

Those are just the carbon, nitrogen, and water cycles. Reproduction is the life cycle. And cycles is the way God does things:

Ecclesiastes 1:[1] The words of Ecclesiastes, the son of David, king of Jerusalem. [2] Vanity of vanities, said Ecclesiastes vanity of vanities, and all is vanity. [3] What hath a man more of all his labour, that he taketh under the sun? [4] One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth standeth for ever. [5] The sun riseth, and goeth down, and returneth to his place: and there rising again,


[6] Maketh his round by the south, and turneth again to the north: the spirit goeth forward surveying all places round about, and returneth to his circuits. [7] All the rivers run into the sea, yet the sea doth not overflow: unto the place from whence the rivers come, they return, to flow again. [8] All things are hard: man cannot explain them by word. The eye is not filled with seeing, neither is the ear filled with hearing. [9] What is it that hath been? the same thing that shall be. What is it that hath been done? the same that shall be done. [10] Nothing under the sun is new, neither is any man able to say: Behold this is new: for it hath already gone before in the ages that were before us.
 
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Those are just the carbon, nitrogen, and water cycles. Reproduction is the life cycle. And cycles is the way God does things:

Ecclesiastes 1:[1] The words of Ecclesiastes, the son of David, king of Jerusalem. [2] Vanity of vanities, said Ecclesiastes vanity of vanities, and all is vanity. [3] What hath a man more of all his labour, that he taketh under the sun? [4] One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth standeth for ever. [5] The sun riseth, and goeth down, and returneth to his place: and there rising again,


[6] Maketh his round by the south, and turneth again to the north: the spirit goeth forward surveying all places round about, and returneth to his circuits. [7] All the rivers run into the sea, yet the sea doth not overflow: unto the place from whence the rivers come, they return, to flow again. [8] All things are hard: man cannot explain them by word. The eye is not filled with seeing, neither is the ear filled with hearing. [9] What is it that hath been? the same thing that shall be. What is it that hath been done? the same that shall be done. [10] Nothing under the sun is new, neither is any man able to say: Behold this is new: for it hath already gone before in the ages that were before us.
I understand that carbon, nitrogen and water of an organism are recycled.. However... life is linear. There is no Cycle. Every being is conceived, born, grows old and dies.... no cycle.
 
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I don't know the specifics, all I know is that the sun and moon are moving not the earth and that I believe in Geocentrism and Not Heliocentrism.

If you feel that way, it's probably safer to avoid telescopes.
 
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I don't know the specifics, all I know is that the sun and moon are moving not the earth and that I believe in Geocentrism and Not Heliocentrism.

I find that sad and disturbing. Not really a matter of faith but of total distrust.
 
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I find that sad and disturbing. Not really a matter of faith but of total distrust.

I just showed you 26 different Geocentric Church Father / Writer Quotes and that still doesn't convince you.


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I understand that carbon, nitrogen and water of an organism are recycled.. However... life is linear. There is no Cycle. Every being is conceived, born, grows old and dies.... no cycle.

As God says in Ecclesiastes,

Ecclesiastes 1:4 One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth standeth for ever. [5] The sun riseth, and goeth down, and returneth to his place: and there rising again,

Our soul has a linear trajectory. Life does not. The cycle continues, from parent to child, and onward.
 
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I just showed you 26 different Geocentric Church Father / Writer Quotes and that still doesn't convince you.

Some ancient writers didn't know that the Earth orbited the Sun. And that means we should ignore the evidence that shows it does? How do you figure that?

In matters that are so obscure and far beyond our vision, we find in Holy Scripture passages which can be interpreted in very different ways without prejudice to the faith we have received. In such cases, we should not rush in headlong and so firmly take our stand on one side that, if further progress in the search for truth justly undermines this position, we too fall with it."
St. Augustine of Hippo De Genesi ad Litteram
 
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Some ancient writers didn't know that the Earth orbited the Sun. And that means we should ignore the evidence that shows it does? How do you figure that?

In matters that are so obscure and far beyond our vision, we find in Holy Scripture passages which can be interpreted in very different ways without prejudice to the faith we have received. In such cases, we should not rush in headlong and so firmly take our stand on one side that, if further progress in the search for truth justly undermines this position, we too fall with it."
St. Augustine of Hippo De Genesi ad Litteram

Those quotes I posted tell us that it is the sun and moon that are moving and not the earth.

It is a deception and lie that is so diabolical that most people can not even begin to comprehend it.


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I just showed you 26 different Geocentric Church Father / Writer Quotes and that still doesn't convince you.


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When you go the the doctor do you expect him to follow Biblical or first century medical practice? I hope not. Those authors were not speaking from revelation, maybe not even literally. What spiritual good is being accomplished by your belief?
 
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Those quotes I posted tell us that it is the sun and moon that are moving and not the earth.

It is a deception and lie that is so diabolical that most people can not even begin to comprehend it.

I doubt that. I think those people were sincere, and intended no harm. St. Augustine, after all, supposed that the Earth was only a few thousand years old, having no scientific data on the issue. The difference is, he had the humility and the intelligence to realize that he could be wrong.

No, it's not deception, and certainly not evil. It's merely people doing the best they could with the evidence they had at hand.
 
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