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Going even further; in April of 2013 a bi-partisan group introduced legislation to address Immigration. It passed in the Senate with a vote of 68-32.
And Obama agreed in many areas with Bush Jr.
Interesting how what Bush proposed the Repubs cheered and the Dems demonized.
When Obama said almost the same thing the Repubs booed and the Dems cheered.
The problem is that the party is being directed by the extremists now, even if it is the case--which I think it probably is--that most elected officials and party regulars are as you say. This doesn't leave the mainstream members, as opposed to the extremists, off the hook, however, since they seem inactive in the face of the latter group. The party couldn't even pass a resolution in the House to oppose anti-Semitism, for goodness sake!What you posted from Obama has been the position of mainstream dems in Congress for a while. Not open borders, as many here seem to think.
That’s simply untrue. The front runner to be the 2020 candidate is the most conservative one! The elected speaker is a “party regular”. The people you are calling “extremists” (which means that most of Europe is “extreme”) are just getting a lot of press.The problem is that the party is being directed by the extremists now, even if it is the case--which I think it probably is--that most elected officials and party regulars are as you say. This doesn't leave the mainstream members, as opposed to the extremists, off the hook, however, since they seem to be willing to let the latter call the shots for their party.
That’s simply untrue. The front runner to be the 2020 candidate is the most conservative one! The elected speaker is a “party regular”. The people you are calling “extremists” (which means that most of Europe is “extreme”) are just getting a lot of press.
No idea how that relates.The House couldn't even get up a resolution opposing anti-Semitism, so servile are the regulars in the face of the ones you dismiss as just people getting a lot of press.
House Democrats fail to condemn anti-Semitism, don't rebuke Rep. Ilhan Omar
You said its "simply untrue" that the fringe elements are calling the shots in the party now. This shows us how far the regulars are going not to challenge them, not even by a vote on a resolution condemning something that nobody should have any trouble affirming.No idea how that relates.
That’s simply untrue. The front runner to be the 2020 candidate is the most conservative one! The elected speaker is a “party regular”. The people you are calling “extremists” (which means that most of Europe is “extreme”) are just getting a lot of press.
So? Not rebuking someone because you don’t think they need a rebuke means that someone “calls the shots?” Nope.The House couldn't even get up a resolution opposing anti-Semitism, so servile are the regulars in the face of the ones you dismiss as just people getting a lot of press.
House Democrats fail to condemn anti-Semitism, don't rebuke Rep. Ilhan Omar
I wish the “fringe” called the shots. But they don’t have enough votes.
So? Not rebuking someone because you don’t think they need a rebuke means that someone “calls the shots?”
That’s simply untrue. The front runner to be the 2020 candidate is the most conservative one!
It would take examples of bills put forward by the “fringe” elements passing in the house. But I’m open to hearing some other analysis. I really want the shots to be called by the people on the left in Congress.It was an example. How many examples do you think it will take for you to give up denying the undeniable?
And I have to challenge that claim, too. While Biden leads in the polls, he is the choice of only about one-quarter of the respondents. If the next five or so candidates, all further to the left, were not dividing up the bulk of the remaining votes among themselves, it would be easily seen where the party stands today.