God reveals the end times

[BABerean2]

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Would you tell us what else could happen to commence the events described by the prophets for the end times of this Church age?

That would be the Second Coming of Christ.

Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

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[keras]

That


That would be the Second Coming of Christ.

Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. .

My question was: What will commence the events leading up to the glorious Return of Jesus? Your eschatology seems to miss out all the very well described things we are told will take place before that can happen.

We know the four horsemen, Revelation 6:1-8, have been released from the many wars, terrible famines, horrible plagues and the many economic disasters we have experienced.
The Fifth Seal is too, obviously open with all the souls of those killed for their faith, kept under the Altar in heaven.

But there is nothing in history the relates to what is described in Revelation 6:12-17, the great a terrible Day of the Lord's wrath. Jesus does NOT Return in His wrath, He just destroys the army of the Anti-Christ and chains up Satan. Then He gathers all His faithful people to Jerusalem, where they will be His priests and co-rulers. Revelation 5:10

So your unscriptural idea that itallhappens at the Return, is not right and violates the given sequence of the Prophetic Word. ​

 

[BABerean2]

Jesus does NOT Return in His wrath, He just destroys the army of the Anti-Christ and chains up Satan. Then He gathers all His faithful people to Jerusalem, where they will be His priests and co-rulers. Revelation 5:10

So your unscriptural idea that itallhappens at the Return, is not right and violates the given sequence of the Prophetic Word.

If you think Jesus does not return in wrath, you have cut Matthew 24:30-31, and Matthew 25:31-46, and 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, and many other passages out of your Bible.

You also seem to have a problem understanding that there is more than one earth.

Joh 4:20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
Joh 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.

Gal 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Heb 11:15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.
Heb 11:16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2Pe 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Rev_3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

Rev_21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

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[keras]

If you think Jesus does not return in wrath, you have cut Matthew 24:30-31, and Matthew 25:31-46, and 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, and many other passages out of your Bible.

Matthew 24:29-30 As soon as that time of distress has passed...….
What time of distress? The Great Tribulation of the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls, as Revelation makes clear. But the Sixth Seal happens before then, as the over 100 prophesies about that terrible Day attest. It will be the Lord's punishment of the nations. Habakkuk 3:12, Nahum 1:1-6, Revelation 14:14-16, +
NO scripture says Jesus will Return in His fiery wrath. That idea is false teaching and leaves people unprepared for what will soon happen.

 

[BABerean2]

NO scripture says Jesus will Return in His fiery wrath.

2Th 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
2Th 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
2Th 1:10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.
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[keras]

What WILL happen:

The enemies of the Lord gather - Micah 4:11-12, Ezekiel 36:2

They conspire to attack Israel - Psalms 83:1-8, Isaiah 21:2

They prepare their weapons - Psalms 7:12, Ezekiel 7:14 [as is the situation today]


At the moment of attack, God will use His Creation, the sun to send fire - Deuteronomy 32:22 & 34-43, Isaiah 30:26 & 30, Psalms 11:4-6, Isaiah 66:15-17, 2 Peter 3:7, Amos 1:1-15 & 2:1-5, , Psalms 50:1-3, Zephaniah 3:8, Revelation 6:12-17

The sun will explode with an extremely bright flash and the moon will reflect bright red - Isaiah 30:26, Joel 2:31, Acts 2:20, Habakkuk 3:4-5

The Lord will make their weapons recoil upon themselves, the EMP hit will cause them to explode - Psalms 7:13-16, Joel 3:4, Obadiah 15

Then the sun, moon and stars will be obscured by the approaching Coronal Mass Ejection - Psalms 18:11-12, Isaiah 13:9-13, Ezekiel 32:7-8, Amos 8:9

A huge superhot mass of hydrogen plasma approaches the earth – Joel 1:15-20, Malachi 4:1, Zephaniah 1:14-18

Everyone on earth will be shocked and terrified - Jeremiah 6:24-26, Ezekiel 21:5-7a, Isaiah 13:6-8, Revelation 6:15-17

The atmosphere will be pushed aside – Revelation 6:14, 2 Peter 3:10, Isaiah 34:4

The whole earth will be enveloped by fire - Isaiah 66:15, Zeph. 3:8, 2 Peter 3:7

Only a remnant will survive in the Holy Land - Zechariah 13:8-9, Isaiah 6:11-13

He will judge the nations, all the wicked will die - Isaiah 63:1-6, Habakkuk 3:12, Revelation 14 18-20, Isaiah 66:17, Isaiah 29:20-21, Hebrews 10:27

His enemies will become ashes - Malachi 4:3, Ezekiel 30:1-5, Jeremiah 49:2, Matthew 3:12b

Millions will die around the world - Psalms 97:3-5, Jeremiah 25:33, Isaiah 13:12

The Lord will protect those who call to Him - Isaiah 43:2, Joel 2:32, Acts 2:21

But most people will take shelter until it passes. Isaiah 2:19, Revelation 6:15

The survivors form a One World Govt. - Daniel 7:23-24, Revelation 17:12

The Holy Land will be regenerated - Ezekiel 36:8, Joel 2:21-24, Isaiah 35:1-10, Amos 9:13-15, Jeremiah 33:12-14

And the Lord's righteous people will gather there. - Psalms 107, Isaiah 35:1-10, Ezekiel 34:11-16, Isaiah 66:18b-21, Revelation 7:9-14

They will become the new nation of Beulah - Isaiah 62:1-5, Ezekiel 36:3-38, Jer. 31

They will build a new Temple – Zechariah 6:15, Haggai 2:9, Ezekiel 40 to 48

The attack by a Northern army will be won by the Lord – Ezekiel 38:22, Joel 2:20

The leaders of Beulah will sign a 7 year peace treaty with the leader of the O.W.G. Daniel 9:27, Isaiah 28:15

At the mid point he will break it and conquer Beulah -Daniel 9:27, Zechariah 14:1-2

This commences the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls of the Great Tribulation - Rev 8:2

Those who kept their faith in God will be taken to a safe place on earth. Daniel 11:32b, Revelation 12:14

3.5 years later, Jesus will Return for His Millennial reign - Revelation 19:11-21, Matthew 24:30-31, Zechariah 14:3-4

The Lord has told us His plans and He will not relent or change them - Jeremiah 4:28

There are plenty more prophesies and details to prove this scenario.

Believe it or not; up to everyone to decide! Psalms 19:11-12, Isaiah 48:6

 

[BABerean2]

Believe it or not; up to everyone to decide!

Not!

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[keras]

Not!
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So you disbelieve 89 + scriptures?
Too bad for you, the end times events will be a surprise and a shock to you.

 

[keras]

God destroyed an early civilization by the means of a great flood.
Jesus prophesied that in the time of the end it will again be ‘as in the days of Noah’. We can’t know how bad that civilization was, but it seems they just got on with life much the same as we do today. From God’s point of view, their problem was they failed to acknowledge Him or respect His Laws, so their Creator simply wiped them out and virtually started over again, just like anything made that turns out defective is remoulded, or with breeding; try a new bloodline. Isaiah 64:8, Jeremiah 18:6-7, Romans 9:20-21

So are the world’s people today as bad as those in Noah’s day? It seems likely, as evidenced by the decline in moral standards and the widespread disbelief in the Creator God. Jeremiah 6:18-19, Psalms 10:13, Ezekiel 20:39


Several Bible verses tell us that God the Creator takes a keen interest in what is happening on earth. Revelation 2:23b, Job 34:21-22, Proverbs 15:3, Psalms 11:4-5, Jer. 32:18-19 In our perfectly balanced and organized universe, He is playing out a drama, a set piece carefully orchestrated and arranged so that each player can choose their own role. Each person is given a conscience; a moral intuition to be aware of what is right and what is wrong, so we all make our choices as to how we live our lives.

Today, the whole world is in a precarious state, with a population of over 7 billion. There is the capacity to produce enough food and provide a reasonable lifestyle for that many, but not the altruistic desire to do so and human mismanagement exacerbates the problems. Therefore the situation deteriorates, life is difficult and short for most and only relatively few live a good and fulfilling life, while all mostly do not acknowledge the one true God or keep His Laws. Over 100 Bible prophesies say how God will judge the nations and punish His enemies, to once again ‘reset civilization’. Deuteronomy 32:35, Psalms 18:7-15, Isaiah 2:12, Isaiah 30:25-28, Habakkuk 3:12, Zephaniah 3:8, Hebrews 10:27, 2 Thess. 1:8, Jeremiah 23:19-20, Revelation 14:17-20

Note that most of the prophesies about the great Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, which is the next prophesied event we can expect: being the fulfilment of Psalms 83, Micah 4:11-12, Rev. 6:12-17, state that this time He will use fire to ‘set the heavens ablaze, the earth will be enveloped in flames and all that is in it will be brought to judgement’. 2 Peter 3:7, Isaiah 30:25-28, Malachi 4:1, Isaiah 66:15-16, Zephaniah 3:8



But the Lord’s people have a Powerful Advocate, He promises to protect and save His righteous people. Jer. 50:33-34, Isa. 51:16, Nahum 1:7, Psalm 60:4-5, Zech. 9:15-16

Psalms 30:1-5 I shall exalt You Lord, for You have lifted me up and not let enemies prevail. I cried out to You and You healed me, You saved my life as I was sinking into the abyss. Sing praises to the Lord, all you His loyal servants, give thanks to His holy name. In His anger there is punishment, but in His favor there is life. There may be distress at nightfall, but the morning will bring rejoicing.

 

[Eloy Craft]

God destroyed an early civilization by the means of a great flood.
Jesus prophesied that in the time of the end it will again be ‘as in the days of Noah’. We can’t know how bad that civilization was, but it seems they just got on with life much the same as we do today. From God’s point of view, their problem was they failed to acknowledge Him or respect His Laws, so their Creator simply wiped them out and virtually started over again, just like anything made that turns out defective is remoulded, or with breeding; try a new bloodline. Isaiah 64:8, Jeremiah 18:6-7, Romans 9:20-21

So are the world’s people today as bad as those in Noah’s day? It seems likely, as evidenced by the decline in moral standards and the widespread disbelief in the Creator God. Jeremiah 6:18-19, Psalms 10:13, Ezekiel 20:39


Several Bible verses tell us that God the Creator takes a keen interest in what is happening on earth. Revelation 2:23b, Job 34:21-22, Proverbs 15:3, Psalms 11:4-5, Jer. 32:18-19 In our perfectly balanced and organized universe, He is playing out a drama, a set piece carefully orchestrated and arranged so that each player can choose their own role. Each person is given a conscience; a moral intuition to be aware of what is right and what is wrong, so we all make our choices as to how we live our lives.

Today, the whole world is in a precarious state, with a population of over 7 billion. There is the capacity to produce enough food and provide a reasonable lifestyle for that many, but not the altruistic desire to do so and human mismanagement exacerbates the problems. Therefore the situation deteriorates, life is difficult and short for most and only relatively few live a good and fulfilling life, while all mostly do not acknowledge the one true God or keep His Laws. Over 100 Bible prophesies say how God will judge the nations and punish His enemies, to once again ‘reset civilization’. Deuteronomy 32:35, Psalms 18:7-15, Isaiah 2:12, Isaiah 30:25-28, Habakkuk 3:12, Zephaniah 3:8, Hebrews 10:27, 2 Thess. 1:8, Jeremiah 23:19-20, Revelation 14:17-20

Note that most of the prophesies about the great Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, which is the next prophesied event we can expect: being the fulfilment of Psalms 83, Micah 4:11-12, Rev. 6:12-17, state that this time He will use fire to ‘set the heavens ablaze, the earth will be enveloped in flames and all that is in it will be brought to judgement’. 2 Peter 3:7, Isaiah 30:25-28, Malachi 4:1, Isaiah 66:15-16, Zephaniah 3:8



But the Lord’s people have a Powerful Advocate, He promises to protect and save His righteous people. Jer. 50:33-34, Isa. 51:16, Nahum 1:7, Psalm 60:4-5, Zech. 9:15-16

Psalms 30:1-5 I shall exalt You Lord, for You have lifted me up and not let enemies prevail. I cried out to You and You healed me, You saved my life as I was sinking into the abyss. Sing praises to the Lord, all you His loyal servants, give thanks to His holy name. In His anger there is punishment, but in His favor there is life. There may be distress at nightfall, but the morning will bring rejoicing.

Thank you for that keras
I here this view from so few. The peace the world has to give reigns in Noah's day. When the earth is so generous who needs God? Eat drink and be merry.

Beginnings of Civilization
17 Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch; and he built a city, and named it Enoch after his son Enoch. 18 To Enoch was born Irad; and Irad was the father of Mehujael, and Mehujael the father of Methushael, and Methushael the father of Lamech. 19 Lamech took two wives;

If Cain is avenged sevenfold,
truly Lamech seventy-sevenfold.”

As an aside here is Jesus' salve on that wound.
Matthew 18:22
Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

Increasing sin is undone with increasing forgiveness.


Lamech is an alpha alpha male. He is the first to take two wives and is also the icon of increasing sin. He began the run downhill to a cliff and everyone jumped with him.

Why did Lamech want two wives?
The best way for a male to spread his genes is to mate with as many females as possible.
The best method for female to do the same is find an alpha male and stick with him. That is unless she is able to seduce a stronger one and breed up. Lamech boasts of seven times sevenfold revenge for this reason. She is the biblical definition of a,not to offend but she is a harlot. A prostitute just wants a man's money but a harlot wants his life.
Success was found in satisfying the urge to breed and the wider one's genes were spread the greater the happiness. Every man a womanizer and every woman a...well every woman breeding up. They worshiped the power of fertility.
That is a brief description of the social structure that God wiped out .

Remember what Eve said when Cain was born? She said " I have produced a man." Sound a little like "It's my body I can do what I want with .... In other words she thinks she is the generator of human life. At least Eve includes God albeit God is HER helper. Eve is the ancient matriarchal archetype of the doomed culture. The harlot that rides the beast. No worries she got staightened out it's just that Cain wasn't with her any more. He took his baggage went out and began civilization.

again;
Beginnings of Civilization
17 Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch; and he built a city,

He didn't start a family, establish a tribe, he built a city.
That reminds me of 'it takes a village.'


The modern version of that culture is forming these days. Satan is separating the twofold purpose of sex so that today the worship of the power of fertility has risen again. The religion of the ancient culture served the power of fertility.


Today it's religion and worship is hidden. Well in plain view that is. A gay pride parade comes to mind. It's priests are the scientist who are climbing mount fertility to make offerings to the fertility god. Providing the modern alpha males with many females and an environment for females to pursue alpha males. The ancient and modern cultures differ in that today anti-breeding is success and happiness rather than breeding. Anti-breeding prepares us for a future that satan desires. A goal he won't achieve.

In my opinion this is satan's goal. I think it wants human reproduction reduced to crops on a farm. Children farmed like Aldous Huxley's Brave New World where no one has a mother and a father. Androgynous human life where children are like seeds planted and harvested without the need for sex. I think that would truly seal the deal for the evil one. The fallen spirits would have a sea of human life to inhabit, exercise their intellect and activate their will in the universe forever.

Thank you for your inspiring description of what's coming .

 

[DavidPT]

God destroyed an early civilization by the means of a great flood.
Jesus prophesied that in the time of the end it will again be ‘as in the days of Noah’. We can’t know how bad that civilization was, but it seems they just got on with life much the same as we do today. From God’s point of view, their problem was they failed to acknowledge Him or respect His Laws, so their Creator simply wiped them out and virtually started over again, just like anything made that turns out defective is remoulded, or with breeding; try a new bloodline. Isaiah 64:8, Jeremiah 18:6-7, Romans 9:20-21

What is missing though? Where are there any fallen angels literally mating with earth women and producing offspring like some claim literally happened in Noah's day? If they thought the women were fair back in those days, look at the women these days on our planet. A lot of them are beyond fair, strikingly gorgeous IOW. IMO, by Jesus comparing to the days of Noah, this proves one shouldn't take the part about angels literally mating with earth women, in the literal sense. It's not like if they were able to do that back then, and that if they were to also do it these days, that they would be any more condemned than they are already are. IOW they would have nothing to lose.

I think the main point Jesus is making by comparing to Noah's day, that for many life continues to go on, regardless. As if the world will never end at some point, even though one has been warned in advance that it will.

 

[Eloy Craft]

What is missing though? Where are there any fallen angels literally mating with earth women and producing offspring like some claim literally happened in Noah's day? If they thought the women were fair back in those days, look at the women these days on our planet. A lot of them are beyond fair, strikingly gorgeous IOW. IMO, by Jesus comparing to the days of Noah, this proves one shouldn't take the part about angels literally mating with earth women, in the literal sense. It's not like if they were able to do that back then, and that if they were to also do it these days, that they would be any more condemned than they are already are. IOW they would have nothing to lose.

I think the main point Jesus is making by comparing to Noah's day, that for many life continues to go on, regardless. As if the world will never end at some point, even though one has been warned in advance that it will.

Hi David, Many think that the sons of God didn't mean angels but the children of the Patriarchs who called on and walked with God. The daughters of men are thought to be the descendants of Cain. The first polygamist was Lamech the seventh generation from Cain.

 

[Douggg]

And the Lord's righteous people will gather there. - Psalms 107, Isaiah 35:1-10, Ezekiel 34:11-16, Isaiah 66:18b-21, Revelation 7:9-14

They will become the new nation of Beulah - Isaiah 62:1-5, Ezekiel 36:3-38, Jer. 31

They will build a new Temple – Zechariah 6:15, Haggai 2:9, Ezekiel 40 to 48

Christians are going to build a new Temple?

 

[keras]

Christians are going to be a new Temple?

I said 'build'.
You know your Bible, unless you have a totally different agenda, you should know there has to be a Third Temple in the end times. 2 Thess 2:4
At present, of course, we Christians are the Spiritual Temple of God.

Please, guys, don't go down the rabbit trail of the Nephilim, etc. They simply don't concern us.

 

[Lost4words]

I said 'build'.
You know your Bible, unless you have a totally different agenda, you should know there has to be a Third Temple in the end times. 2 Thess 2:4
At present, of course, we Christians are the Spiritual Temple of God.

Please, guys, don't go down the rabbit trail of the Nephilim, etc. They simply don't concern us.

There wont be a 3rd 'stone' temple where sacrifices will start once more.

3rd Temple was/is Jesus.

He was killed but rose again in 3 days! No other sacrifice can compete or will ever be needed again.

 

[Berean Tim]

There wont be a 3rd 'stone' temple where sacrifices will start once more.

3rd Temple was/is Jesus.

He was killed but rose again in 3 days! No other sacrifice can compete or will ever be needed again.

I know of no one who believes the 3rd temple will be accepted by God. The "man of lawlessness " the "Beast of Revelation" stand in this temple proclaiming to be God or a god.
If there are Christians believing this temple and the sacrifices are for removing sin they are seriously wrong.

 

[Douggg]

I said 'build'.
You know your Bible, unless you have a totally different agenda, you should know there has to be a Third Temple in the end times. 2 Thess 2:4
At present, of course, we Christians are the Spiritual Temple of God.

Please, guys, don't go down the rabbit trail of the Nephilim, etc. They simply don't concern us.

I made a typo - actually an auto correct and I didn't catch it - I meant build.

I agree that there has to be a third temple in the end times. But I don't think it will be Christians who build it.

 

[DavidPT]

There wont be a 3rd 'stone' temple where sacrifices will start once more.

3rd Temple was/is Jesus.

He was killed but rose again in 3 days! No other sacrifice can compete or will ever be needed again.

The idea is utterly preposterous to begin with. As if God will be pleased with the AC putting an end to animal sacrificing yet again by the unbelieving Jews once they build this temple. It seems to me the AC would be doing God a favor by causing animal sacrificing to end yet again. But Jesus already caused it to end ages ago. That's what God is pleased with. Like I always say, anything is possible if it is at least logical. There is zero logic in a stone temple getting built again, then animal sacrificing once again resuming, then once again being done away with, but this time via the AC. If that literally happens like that, I give up. I may as well throw the Bible out the window since this would indicate I obviously understand none of it whatsoever.

 

[Douggg]

There is zero logic in a stone temple getting built again, then animal sacrificing once again resuming, then once again being done away with, but this time via the AC. If that literally happens like that, I give up. I may as well throw the Bible out the window since this would indicate I obviously understand none of it whatsoever.

You are misapplying acceptable soteriology to frame eschatology.

The animals sacrifices continued to be conducted forty years after Jesus's death and resurrection. What was ceased by Jesus's death and resurrection - is the animal sacrifices as being the systematic acceptable relief from the penalty of sins committed. Those no longer provide any relief from the penalty of sins committed.

But that is actually not the issue, because....

Christians will not build the temple, but Jews, who still hold to the animal sacrifice system, albeit a no longer acceptable means to be right with God. In that context, the Antichrist will stop the daily sacrifice to be reinstituted by the Jews in the temple that they will rebuild, intended by the Jews to be for worship and praise of the One True God.

 

[keras]

I agree that there has to be a third temple in the end times. But I don't think it will be Christians who build it.

There is a shocking lack of understanding among Christians about God's plans for the world and for His people during the end times.

There WILL be a new Temple, denying that truth contradicts much scripture, esp Ezekiel 40-46 The Anti-Christ will desecrate it by sitting in it and declaring himself to be God. 2 Thess 2:4
This means it has to be a Temple dedicated to God and is Ezekiel 43:1-4, the Glory of God will enter into it.

There is zero logic in a stone temple getting built again, then animal sacrificing once again resuming, then once again being done away with, but this time via the AC. If that literally happens like that, I give up. I may as well throw the Bible out the window since this would indicate I obviously understand none of it whatsoever.

You just haven't read or properly understood prophesies like Isaiah 56:1-8, Zechariah 14:20-21, Revelation 11:1-3, + God wanted people to build Him an earthly Temple twice before and He does not change. Jesus will Return into it, the earthquake of the Mount of Olives, Zechariah 14:3-5, will clear His way.

The problem that most Christians have that makes it difficult for them to comprehend the prophesies, is holding beliefs in false theories. Isaiah 29:0-12 and other scriptures tell us that people gripping onto beliefs that do not have sound Biblical support, leads to an inability to understand the truths.
Only as the end times events commence, will people like that finally understand. Isaiah 29:23-24, Isaiah 32:3-4, Jeremiah 4:22