Should the Ayatollahs be targeted?

[DanishLutheran]

The Bible tells you that I’m under some sort of divine judgment based on some misunderstanding you had with regards to my post?

Yes, how dare you not lick Iran's boots, and stand up for yourself! How dare you disagree with Robin who is infallible, don't you know?!

 

[Wrangler]

I disagree. Everyone deserves liberty.

1st, We were talking about democracy not liberty.

2nd, Democracy is not liberty but slavery. The 49% is a slave to the 51%. That's why America is not and never was a democracy. We are a republic, based on individual rights.

3rd, Liberty is an undeserved gift from our Creator. No one deserves liberty.

4th, Freedom is not free. If the people of the Middle East develop the cognitive functioning to understand and implement a social order around popular consent, they have to devise a means to overthrow, even intellectually, the tyranny of Islam.

When you have people using religion as a reason you ought to stay oppressed, they deem you guilty of apostasy and kill you for you insolence. On top of that, people in that area have among the lowest IQ of any group on the planet. This makes it difficult to even conceive of freedom but they can conceive of hating freedom loving America, The Great Satan.

As much as I'd like to help them, their constant calls for "Death to America" cause me to dust them off my feet and go make some other part of the world a better place.

 

[Robin Mauro]

I was referring to your call for how One reports such posts. I thought you were kidding given there is a report toggle under each post.[/QUOTE
Well thanks for finally answering me rather than laughing at me for asking.

 

[Robin Mauro]

Not sure why my post wound up as part of your post. Maybe it's my cheap phone

 

[Robin Mauro]

Yes, how dare you not lick Iran's boots, and stand up for yourself! How dare you disagree with Robin who is infallible, don't you know?!

Your sarcasm is a reflection on you, not me. I am far from infallible, but I am informed.
Maybe you should try that yourself sometime.

 

[DanishLutheran]

Your sarcasm is a reflection on you, not
me..

False

I am far from infallible, but I am informed./QUOTE]

Newsflash: Binge-watching PressTV does not make one "Informed". It makes one brainwashed.

Maybe you should try that yourself sometime.

One does not "try" that which one has already succeeded in.

 

[Robin Mauro]

False

I do not even have t.v.
I listen to public radio.
Being insulting doesn't make you right, and viewing a whole nation of people as evil, without even knowing them is the very definition of racism. God loves everyone.

 

[RDKirk]

I don't know. Imho less stability in the Middle East would be a crummy thing. Even a cruel, controlling government seems like a better option than chaos and terrorism.

That is, in fact, a fact. That is the reason Paul wrote Romans 13.

And we can see it played out in the world: Government repression does not stop the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is able to operate in any orderly society.

Christianity grew to 25% of Rome even under the harshest repression. Since the mid-90s, the Church has grown ten-fold in North Korea--the simple fact that North Korean Christians are willing to evangelize is an astounding display of the Holy Spirit. Kim Jong Un has given up trying to exterminate the Church and is trying now to co-opt it. Chinese become Christian at the rate of 1,000 a week.

However, chaos does impede the Church. The Church cannot grow where gangs kill indiscriminately and there is no governmental order.

So we see the Body of Christ growing in North Korea, but not in South Sudan.

 

[RDKirk]

What if a cruel and controlling government is funding and engaging in chaos and terrorism?

You mean like the US? Since WWII, the US has screwed up more nations than it has stabilized.

 

[Newtheran]

In a wave of fresh new sanctions against Iran (in retaliation for downing an armed US drone over international waters) the Treasury department has targeted Iran's Ayatollah and his office. The foreign minister of Iran will be sanctioned soon. The Ayatollahs have long been suspected of aiding and abetting Hamas, Hezbollah, PLO and the likes. Given that the Ayatollah of Iran is their Supreme Leader, is this a good move? I think it is. Immediate outrage not withstanding, it'll weaken the religious zealots who're probably robbing the Iranian people of a genuine democratic republic. How should we Christians pray about this? Your comments are welcome. Peace in Christ.

Here are some links:
New US sanctions on ayatollah mean the end of diplomacy, Iran says

Trump signs executive order slapping 'hard-hitting' sanctions on Iran over drone shootdown

Iran–Palestine relations - Wikipedia

Iran Supports Hamas, but Hamas Is No Iranian ’Puppet’

Without a doubt, the Ayatollahs are some unsavory characters. The thing is, they are no worse than the people who rule Saudi Arabia or Turkey. In fact, the Sunni sects and their supporters in Saudi Arabia have financed more global terrorism than Iran has. So we must be cautious not to end up taking sides unnecessarily in an intra-Islamic civil war and become the hit men for the Sunnis.