Should the Ayatollahs be targeted?

redleghunter

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Haven't seen it. Have a link? And a link from a neutral source would be preferable.

You gotta be able to trust .gov. Sorry, but I don't. I'm a child of the Viet Nam era when .gov repeatedly lied to the U.S. public about body counts and how the war was going in order to try to retain the public's support of the war effort. Just because it comes out of the Pentagon, doesn't make it true.
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Video of Iran shooting down US drone released by Pentagon

Above submitted by DoD. Neutral source? What were you looking for? A CNN air traffic controller?
 
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We do know Trump withdrew from the nuclear deal... How you can claim otherwise is rather stunning...that old deniability stunt;
Since I never denied he did, there's that.
all those other things you cited are disputable
Actually facts.
but you obviously believe the Trump stance
No I believe the actual reports of the Sailors, Airmen, Marines and Soldiers who reported the information to the DoD. I also believe what the actual drone footage showed up to the point it plunged in the ocean...not in Iran. If it landed in Iran, where's the wreckage?
and you had to go all the way back to Carter to cite an actual aggression
I started with Carter and went from there.
you blame the Clinton's foundation for receiving donations but I guess the U.S arms deal with Saudi Arabia, which is a real threat, unlike the Clinton foundation, is okay with you;
We've been giving the Saudis weapons for ages and in every administration. It is only wrong now because Trump is doing it. A bit of consistency in positions would be appreciated.


almost everything Trump has done is aggressive....
I would like to know what exactly?

Something like this?


Withdrawing from the nuclear deal said it all;
It sure did. It showed the US will not stand for bad international agreements the US Senate never had a chance to review and ratify.


and them being allowed to the table for "diplomacy" is a joke since Trump is the one who has taken the stance of a bully here.
He's taken a firm stance and when we were attacked showed restraint.

You seem to trust our government when we know they have repeatedly lied, from Viet Nam to the invasion of Iraq.
Of course our government has lied and lied except from 2009-2016 right? Instead we loaded USAF cargo planes with pallets delivering billions of US Dollars and Euros placing it in the hands of the Mullahs of Iran.
 
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Since I never denied he did, there's that.

Actually facts.

No I believe the actual reports of the Sailors, Airmen, Marines and Soldiers who reported the information to the DoD. I also believe what the actual drone footage showed up to the point it plunged in the ocean...not in Iran. If it landed in Iran, where's the wreckage?

I started with Carter and went from there.

We've been giving the Saudis weapons for ages and in every administration. It is only wrong now because Trump is doing it. A bit of consistency in positions would be appreciated.



I would like to know what exactly?

Something like this?



It sure did. It showed the US will not stand for bad international agreements the US Senate never had a chance to review and ratify.



He's taken a firm stance and when we were attacked showed restraint.


Of course our government has lied and lied except from 2009-2016 right? Instead we loaded USAF cargo planes with pallets delivering billions of US Dollars and Euros placing it in the hands of the Mullahs of Iran.[/QUOTE
I have never agreed with arming the Saudi's, and why not show a video of white supremists carrying torches in Charletsville? (sp? Wish this thing had spell check).
God loves everyone. All have sinned. Trump withdrew from the nuclear treaty, but you cannot or will not acknowledge anything he has done as wrong. And a video does not prove where the drone was.
And I criticized Obama when I believed he did wrong, even though I voted for him, because it is principles that matter, not personalities; not defending the right or the left, even when they are wrong.
I'm done here. Why argue?
Are you going to change your views? Nether am I.
I have seen who Trump is, by his own words and acions. "By their fruit yes shall know them."
Oh man, can anyone please tell me how to report this post?! "Lowest IQ," " goat humpers". This is evil speach. See Iran, Rick Steve's Europe. The middle east has always been far advanced in math and many other areas. And they are all closer relations to Jesus and the patriarchs than you.
Your speech and your hatred are not Christ's values. And you call yourself a Christian? Appalling!
Redleghunter, did you miss the memo about rating a post funny, which was not intended to be funny, is now considered flaming on this website?
And yet you are okay with middle easterners being called goat humpers? Check yourself. God sees you, and he will repay.
 
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Above submitted by DoD. Neutral source? What were you looking for? A CNN air traffic controller?

Ha! You want me to watch 5 minutes of Faux News? I see nothing conclusive in the embedded video. Even Faux News says "according to the US military." Switzerland is a neutral source. The U.S. military, not so much.
 
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Redleghunter, did you miss the memo about rating a post funny, which was not intended to be funny, is now considered flaming on this website?
And yet you are okay with middle easterners being called goat humpers? Check yourself. God sees you, and he will repay.
Oh my. I thought you were being humorous. I will remove the rating.
 
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Ha! You want me to watch 5 minutes of Faux News? I see nothing conclusive in the embedded video. Even Faux News says "according to the US military." Switzerland is a neutral source. The U.S. military, not so much.
No you could have followed the links to the actual DoD statements.
 
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Hate to break it to you, but in case you aren't able to figure this out on your own, I need to spell it out:
If Sweden hadn't rebelled against its rightful king, then neither Ikea nor Legoland would have been around. And you can shove your patronizing description of my country under the couch.

Well, if the Kalmar Union had stuck around it probably would have had a big impact on what the world would look like today so it is all speculative on both of our parts.

Also cute you get triggered by legoland. Kind of shows the dangers of patriotic pride.
 
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Ladies and Gentlemen, oh my, what a vigorous debate! Thanks and please keep it going. Kindly keep it civil and refrain from personal attacks. We are all brothers and sisters on this forum. Please be sure to let your elected representatives know how you feel about this issue. Peace in Christ.
 
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I believe God has not ordained the United States to be the policeman to the world.
Trump agrees with you. He stated statistics of who gets their energy resources from the Middle East and North Africa. It’s Japan and Europe.

I’m all for the Japanese navy and Europeans to police the shipping lanes. Good luck with that. Even Obama tried this to a lesser degree and we ended up coming to the rescue when pirates robbed, kidnapped and seized their ships.

The media and DC elite berated Trump for telling NATO nations to pull their weight.
 
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Also cute you get triggered by legoland. Kind of shows the dangers of patriotic pride.

No. It shows that I don't like having my country and people's 1000+ year history and culture and accomplishments reduced to a theme park.
 
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No. It shows that I don't like having my country and people's 1000+ year history and culture and accomplishments reduced to a theme park.

Also, I wasn't "triggered". I didn't start throwing a tantrum about how I'm being oppressed and how people should "check their priviledge", and other asinine nonsense like that.
 
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Oh my. I thought you were being humorous. I will remove the rating.
There was nothing even remotely funny in my post. Calling middle easterners goat humpers, and claiming they are less intelligent than U.S. citizens is evil and racist.
We are all immigrants here, except for native Americans. And middle easterners are far more closely related to Jesus and the patriarchs than "Americans " are.
 
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There was nothing even remotely funny in my post. Calling middle easterners goat humpers, and claiming they are less intelligent than U.S. citizens is evil and racist.
We are all immigrants here, except for native Americans. And middle easterners are far more closely related to Jesus and the patriarchs than "Americans " are.
I was referring to your call for how One reports such posts. I thought you were kidding given there is a report toggle under each post.
 
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Yes, I am quite sure. The Bible tells me so.
The Bible tells you that I’m under some sort of divine judgment based on some misunderstanding you had with regards to my post?
 
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