Mexico deploys 15,000 troops to U.S border

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"Given that (undocumented) migration is not a crime but rather an administrative violation, we simply detain them and turn them over to the authorities" at the National Migration Institute, he said.

There's no crime here....just scared white American racists.
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There's no crime here....just scared white American racists.
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The crime is people entering the country illegal. It is not racist to want illegal immigration to stop. If we don’t enforce our immigration laws, we are no longer a distinct country but a region with no borders.
 
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The crime is people entering the country illegal.

Nope; not a crime unless the law is changed so that immigrants have fewer ways to enter legally.

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"Given that (undocumented) migration is not a crime but rather an administrative violation, we simply detain them and turn them over to the authorities" at the National Migration Institute, he said.

Mexico deploys 15,000 troops to US border

It is not racist to want illegal immigration to stop.

It is if you throw children into concentration camps.

If we don’t enforce our immigration laws, we are no longer a distinct country but a region with no borders.

Enforcing immigration laws is fine, but the law shouldn't be used as an excuse for inhumane racist policies.
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There's no crime here....just scared white American racists.
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Americans come in all different colors and the white kind are not the only ones who feel the same on these issues.
 
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Racists come in all kinds of colors.
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I agree, but you said white Americans. They do that too when trying to make it about the white race or their Hitler narrative when even Hispanics (here in the U.S legally) who support Trump are against their own countrymen coming over illegally. But its the scared white Americans make for the best target because that helps enforce the whole white supremicist/ Nazi/ Fascist narrative.
 
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I agree, but you said white Americans and they do that when trying to make it about white race or their Hitler narrative when even Hispanics (here in the U.S legally) who support Trump are against their own countrymen coming over illegally. But the scared white Americans make for the best target because that helps enforce the whole white supremicist/ Nazi/ Fascist narrative.

Yeah? And?
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The crime is people entering the country illegal. It is not racist to want illegal immigration to stop. If we don’t enforce our immigration laws, we are no longer a distinct country but a region with no borders.

They are not illegals.

Their ancestors roamed the whole American continent freely. The original crime is when the Europeans took American lands by force.

The land you guard is stolen. It's absurd to say, it's illegal to cross into stolen lands :/
 
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They are not illegals.

Their ancestors roamed the whole American continent freely. The original crime is when the Europeans took American lands by force
Its interesting that the children of invaders who came as poor as beggars or/and run from persecution or justice in Europe, want to make the same thing "illegal" and "crime" for others, because they are afraid they will loose what their fore-fathers have stolen.

The right of the stronger, it seems.

Let the native indians decide whom they want in their land.
 
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Its interesting, that the children of invaders want to make the same thing "illegal" for others, because they are afraid they will loose what they stole for themeselves :) The right of the stronger, it seems.

Who are the children of the invaders? For the sake of simplicity, lets just say persons invaded a land 200 years ago but others from just about everywhere came to the country years thereafter, and continued to do so it would be pretty difficult to say they are the specific children of invaders.
 
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Who are the children of the invaders? For the sake of simplicity, lets just say persons invaded a land 200 years ago but others from just about everywhere came to the country years thereafter, and continued to do so it would be pretty difficult to say they are the specific children of invaders.
They came legally or ilegally? Why they came, they run from poverty, justice or persecution in their home countries? Many of them were criminals hiding in the USA from justice and starting a new life. Italian mafia, nazi Germans, various other "bad character" people.

Why now they say "others cannot do it"?
 
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They came legally or ilegally? Why they came, they run from poverty, justice or persecution in their home countries? Many of them were criminals hiding in the USA from justice and starting a new life. Italian mafia, nazi Germans, various other "bad character" people.

Why now they say "others cannot do it"?

No, I am asking who they are, like how do you point to one and say, "You are one of their children" type thing since so many here now came at different times way after "the invasion".
 
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No, I am asking who they are, like how do you point to one and say, "You are one of their children" type thing since so many here now came at different times way after "the invasion".
My point is not to identify them individually. Maybe they know it, maybe their parents lied to them about their history.
Not for me to solve.

But all Americans should know that they are living in a stolen house and be more humble towards "illegal" immigrants of today instead of talking about them like about some dirt.
 
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They are not illegals.

Their ancestors roamed the whole American continent freely.

Their ancestors conquered and subjugated the tribes that came before them.

Its interesting that the children of invaders who came as poor as beggars or/and run from persecution or justice in Europe, want to make the same thing "illegal" and "crime" for others, because they are afraid they will loose what their fore-fathers have stolen.

The right of the stronger, it seems.

Of course, the right of the stronger. Who else's? Who wins the war, gets the land. How could it ever be otherwise? The absurdity is that people expect us to give up the continent without a fight. Why? The Indians didn't.

Let the native indians decide whom they want in their land.

They lost. It's not their land anymore.
 
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They lost. It's not their land anymore.
So, Ukraine lost Crimea, because they could not defend it against Russia. So, its not their land anymore?

No independent international court would agree with this.
 
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Of course, the right of the stronger. Who else's? Who wins the war, gets the land. How could it ever be otherwise? The absurdity is that people expect us to give up the continent without a fight. Why? The Indians didn't.

The right of the stronger is not a Christian right. Moral people help the weaker ones and are against injustice made by stronger ones.
 
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