Wisconsin capitol flies the LGBTQ flag

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As a display of favoring certain special interest groups that favor the democrat party, the democrat governor flies the LGBTQ flag right underneath the Wisconsin and American flags over the state capitol building. Would it be tolerated if a Christian flag, or an NRA flag, or a pro-life group flag was flown over the capitol by a conservative governor?

Rainbow pride flag flies over state Capitol for 1st time in Wisconsin history

Sen. David Craig, R-Big Bend, called Evers’ action “a statement to advance a cause.”

“The only cause that the Capitol flags should represent is fifty states united in one republic,” Craig wrote on Twitter.
 

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I can bet the ACLU and FFRF would be livid if a Christian flag were flown- but since they're aligned with the Democratic party, they'll certainly take no offense at this.

The dems are celebrating it, along with their voter base. I'm sure glad the Assembly and Senate of Wisconsin are still Republican controlled.
 
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I can bet the ACLU and FFRF would be livid if a Christian flag were flown- but since they're aligned with the Democratic party, they'll certainly take no offense at this.

Exactly.
 
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As a person of color and a woman both of Whose rights were legally restricted for centuries, i see no problem with them celebrating the right to not be beaten or killed or arrested just for existing.
 
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The rainbow is a symbol of God's destruction of humanity for their sins. Why is the Wisconsin government so hateful of people who go contrary to God's law? Someone call the ALCU, this bigotry cannot stand.
Symbols often have more than one meaning. This is surely not what the rainbow flag actually means.

Furthermore, in Genesis the rainbow is a sign of God's promise never to destroy the earth again, even if we sin.
 
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As a display of favoring certain special interest groups that favor the democrat party, the democrat governor flies the LGBTQ flag right underneath the Wisconsin and American flags over the state capitol building. Would it be tolerated if a Christian flag, or an NRA flag, or a pro-life group flag was flown over the capitol by a conservative governor?

Rainbow pride flag flies over state Capitol for 1st time in Wisconsin history

Sen. David Craig, R-Big Bend, called Evers’ action “a statement to advance a cause.”

“The only cause that the Capitol flags should represent is fifty states united in one republic,” Craig wrote on Twitter.

I was watching Supergirl with my 11 year old daughter and these lesbian scenes keep coming up. They are quite easy on the eyes and it is easy to forget that they are breaking Gods law and instead get wrapped up in their personal dramas. I told my daughter I was hoping for grand children from her and that being a lesbian might not be the best way to do that and she laughed. Then they had this discussion about lesbian couples having children and my humorous defence was broken. We are not here to judge the dammed, God does that, but they seem to own the airwaves. It will be much harder for my children than it was for me on this sort of rubbish.
 
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As a person of color and a woman both of Whose rights were legally restricted for centuries...

Just how old are you, anyway?

...i see no problem with them celebrating the right to not be beaten or killed or arrested just for existing.

Please cite when it was legal in this country for gays to be beaten or killed or arrested simply for existing. Please cite when it was legal in this country for women to be beaten or killed or arrested simply for existing.

Also please tell us when the 13th Amendment was ratified. And how that came about.
 
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Just how old are you, anyway?



Please cite when it was legal in this country for gays to be beaten or killed or arrested simply for existing. Please cite when it was legal in this country for women to be beaten or killed or arrested simply for existing.

Also please tell us when the 13th Amendment was ratified. And how that came about.
. I’m old enough to remember when the Loving family were arrested and exiled for getting married just because they were a mixed race family. I remember the march on Selma . I remember when women couldn’t take certain jobs just because they were women ... to put a number on it late 50s early 60s . It had always been accepted that gays were beaten and killed and the police looked the other way . Whether that was legal is a moot point . I remember that too . A gay friend in high school 50 years ago almost lost his life because of that. It’s shocking when you realize that someone you know and like got beaten to the point of permanent brain damage just because some creep decided that he didn’t like the way he looked or talked.

I’ll support gays’ right to be proud of getting civil rights . Just like I was proud when some of the stupid restrictions were taken off my life.
 
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It had always been accepted that gays were beaten and killed and the police looked the other way . Whether that was legal is a moot point .
Our previous youth pastor had a background of working with street kids in San Francisco. She said that half of them had been thrown out by their parents because they were gay.

"Up to 1.6 million young people experience homelessness in the United States every year. Forty percent of them identify as LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender), according to a 2012 study conducted by the Williams Institute at UCLA Law. It’s estimated that LGBT youth represent about 7 percent of the population, which puts that 40 percent figure into heartbreaking context.

"The study’s other findings are equally bleak: 46 percent of homeless LGBT youths ran away because of family rejection of their sexual orientation or gender identity; 43 percent were forced out by parents, and 32 percent faced physical, emotional or sexual abuse at home."

[https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...rents-can-change-that/?utm_term=.2dd5d3aec89f]

There are reasons that legal protection for gays is important. But legal protection won't fix things as long as parents think gay kids are abominations.

(The 7% number seems really high, by the way.)
 
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I grew up with a father who absolutely despised gays . And of course I agreed with him at first. What changed my mind was two things . One my father’s virulent hatred was a little creepy and the other was a movie called iirc Some of My Best Friends Are. It was about a bunch of gay friends who hung out together . Two of guys were in a relationship and they had a nasty breakup and one ended up crying in the bathroom. I thought if a man did that to me I’d feel the exact same way he did . That’s when the penny dropped for me. And I don’t abuse people for falling in love with someone I might not approve of since
 
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I grew up with a father who absolutely despised gays . And of course I agreed with him at first. What changed my mind was two things . One my father’s virulent hatred was a little creepy and the other was a movie called iirc Some of My Best Friends Are. It was about a bunch of gay friends who hung out together . Two of guys were in a relationship and they had a nasty breakup and one ended up crying in the bathroom. I thought if a man did that to me I’d feel the exact same way he did . That’s when the penny dropped for me. And I don’t abuse people for falling in love with someone I might not approve of since

The issue isn't really about abusing people who don't do things someone may not approve of. The issue is the government taking a position in favor of it. At least, that's what this thread is about. As for why homosexuality is spoken against, and especially homosexual "marriage", well, when Christians read the bible and then see what is being approved of by the government (and even some christian denominations), do you think it would be natural for us to support it, or oppose it?
 
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As a person of color and a woman both of Whose rights were legally restricted for centuries, i see no problem with them celebrating the right to not be beaten or killed or arrested just for existing.

And you would think that in a nation like the United States of America (with the perpetual claim of how this country was founded upon freedom, liberty and justice for all AND this country being called the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave) that LGBT American citizens wouldn't still be fighting for equality and civil rights in the year 2019. It is pathetic that religious prejudice and discrimination still has a grip in this country. But then again, the United States of America has a very long history of groups of people being dehumanized and marginalized because they weren't white and/or Christian. It's really no wonder that civil rights groups and social justice groups still exist in this country.
 
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And you would think that in a nation like the United States of America, with its perpetual claim of how this country was founded upon freedom, liberty and justice for all AND this country being called the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave, that LGBT American citizens would not still be fighting for equality and civil rights in the year 2019. It is pathetic that religious prejudice and discrimination still has a grip in this country today. But then again, the United States of America has a very long history of certain groups of people being cruelly dehumanized and marginalized because they were not white and/or Christian.

It's also got a more recent history of advocacy groups taking advantage of how the media has done its best to equate hurt feelings with true victimhood.
 
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The issue isn't really about abusing people who don't do things someone may not approve of. The issue is the government taking a position in favor of it. At least, that's what this thread is about. As for why homosexuality is spoken against, and especially homosexual "marriage", well, when Christians read the bible and then see what is being approved of by the government (and even some christian denominations), do you think it would be natural for us to support it, or oppose it?
It's perfectly natural for you to oppose it. As citizens you have every right to protest. Just as I have every right to claim that you're misusing Scripture in doing so (though as you know, that's not a discussion we can have in this forum -- we can just look at political reflects of our disagreements), and your attitudes damage people.
 
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It's perfectly natural for you to oppose it. As citizens you have every right to protest. Just as I have every right to claim that you're misusing Scripture in doing so (though as you know, that's not a discussion we can have in this forum -- we can just look at political reflects of our disagreements), and your attitudes damage people.

Romans 1:27 can't be used any more clearly:
"And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved."

So again, should we agree or disagree when a government endorses such things?
 
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Romans 1:27 can't be used any more clearly:
"And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved."
As you surely know, I can't comment in this forum on this misuse of this quotation.
 
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