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IOW, you can't spend eternity with the Father and Son.
I think most religions do this to some extent. I’m of 2 minds about it . Is it true vs are they doing it for manipulation.
all except Taoism, which I really don’t know about , believe in some type of punishments after death . Sometimes it’s a sect by sect determination , some do some don’tChristianity is one religion; Taoism is another; Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, are some. which ones are you referring to?
all except Taoism, which I really don’t know about , believe in some type of punishments after death . Sometimes it’s a sect by sect determination , some do some don’t
depends on what that particular sect thinks is a sin .Punishment after death for what?
For Paul, the faithful will enjoy eternal life, but those who don’t know Christ will "be punished with everlasting destruction" (2 Thessalonians 1:9). Hence his urgent call: "How can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?" (Romans 10:14).IOW, you can't spend eternity with the Father and Son.
This is not about what I believe, this post was to show what Evangelicals believe. That being said I believe that the thief did go to Paradise and not spirit prison. I have stated many times that I am not a separatist.HITW, was the right-hand thief saved or not?
And if so how, according to your theology?
I ask because he was not preached to, he did not 'hear' (in that sense), he was never baptized, etc., yet Christ the Lord Himself tells him "Today you will be with Me in paradise." And this was obviously in the NT, so your talk about 'inclusivists' pointing to OT saints doesn't apply here.
Please explain this.
As members of The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints we believe that salvation into one of the three kingdoms of heaven will be accomplished by almost everyone who has, does, or will ever live on the earth. After this life we will go to the spirit world until the resurrection. While there spirits who didn't hear the gospel will be taught the gospel before the judgment:I'm asking you what you believe. Can you please answer the questions as to how, since you've said he was saved, even though he didn't do any of those things?
Also, what is a 'separatist', in this context?
For Paul, the faithful will enjoy eternal life, but those who don’t know Christ will "be punished with everlasting destruction" (2 Thessalonians 1:9). Hence his urgent call: "How can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?" (Romans 10:14).
Taking such texts at face value, many evangelical scholars maintain that even those who fail to hear the Gospel through no fault of their own will be damned. Often called "exclusivists" or "particularists", this group includes Hendrik Kraemer, Douglas Gevitt and R.C. Sproul.
However, in recent years a growing number of evangelicals have argued that at least some who do not profess Christ before death can be saved. Broadly defined as "inclusivists" or "accessibilists", this group includes Clark Pinnock, John Sanders, Stanley Grenz and Nigel Wright. As evangelicals, they claim to find warrant for their "wider hope" in Scripture.
Inclusivists often draw an analogy with the Old Testament saints. In Hebrews 11, a whole line of godly figures who never knew Jesus explicitly are counted among the redeemed. Those who live faithfully within their own religious context today without hearing the Good News are seen to be in a similar position, and to be similarly qualified for salvation.