Sir I believe the actual text itself I don't have a case.
I think that is the difference between you and I.
Just read hebrews 6 and tell me what you think of it.
Because it does not support OSAS.
It mentions in verse one that apostacy doctrine is not a docrtrine of works.
that is the number one criticism one may have about it.
it also mentions that it is a controversial subject and not for new believers to understand as it is not the "milk" of scripture.
Lets go ahead and let the scriptures speak for themselves
Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God,
Heb 6:2
of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this we will do if God permits.
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For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit,
Heb 6:5
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nd have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come,
(this verse speaks of tasting the good word of God, but a few chapters earlier it says "Jesus tasted of death for all mankind"But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that He, by the grace of God,
might taste death for everyone." So with the concept of expositional constancy we should interpret a word similiar to how it is interpreted by the same author in the same book. So tasted in Hebrews 6, means fully partook.
if they fall away,to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.Heb 6:7
Then He confirms that this is a judgement for believers (mark 14 confirms that believers are considered living plants).
For the earth which drinks in the rain that often comes upon it, and bears herbs useful for those by whom it is cultivated, receives blessing from God;
Heb 6:8
but if it bears thorns and briers,
it is rejected and near to being cursed, whose end
is to be burned.
(so living plants, believers who do not bear fruit but thorns, are rejected, this is the same message as the gospels)
6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Hebrews
The Apostle says ...
1) "Therefore"
When we see the word "therefore", we need to look back to see what it is there for ...
5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Hebrews
The Apostle just spoke of his readers having the need of teachers, when they should be teaching.
What's the issue here?
Many of the Hebrews suffered with the idea falsely presented by many of the rabbis that obedience to the law of Moses was a necessity for salvation.
(This error is even taught by many today. We often hear that those in the Old Testament were "under the law", but we are under grace.)
This of course has no truth whatsoever, (as taught by most people).
We see this also in the writings of the Apostle Paul in his epistle to the Galatians.
3:3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? Galatians
2) "leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ"
There must be a time when we realize that our salvation is secure in the work of the Godhead. That was the purpose of the "Therefore" starting the chapter.
When we spend our entire lives concerned with our own salvation, we spend less time being concerned about the salvation of others. If we are working to keep our salvation secure, there lays in the back of our minds the wonder of whether or not that which we do meets the requirements needed to keep our salvation secure.
3) "let us go on unto perfection"
This perfection is nothing other than holiness. God desires that we be holy, as He is holy. Holiness however, is separate from salvation, (as can be seen by the use of the words, "let us go on unto"), and is that which the Apostle desires to "go on unto". Holiness therefore is not part of salvation, but rather that which comes AFTER salvation. (The principle of the doctrine of Christ.)
4) "not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God"
The Apostle once again states the problem ... the return to, "laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God".
When building a home, or other structure; once the foundation has been built, the builders leave that work, and move onto that which rests upon the foundation; but they no longer return to building the foundation ... why? Because, that is a finished work!
"of repentance from dead works"
What is "repentance"?
Repentance is having a change of mind, and heart. Prior to being "saved" we trust in our works of righteousness to either fully pay, partially pay, or at least in some way to sustain the eternal life we have been given. But this is a gross error.
64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. Isaiah
3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; Titus
The first words we need to focus on are "he saved us". We do absolutely no works that are, or can be associated with our salvation. Why?
Because, any such works would be corrupted by our own sin. That is why we are in need of a Saviour.
Hence, no matter how much our works may appear righteous to mankind, they are dead works from God's perspective.
Therefore, it is necessary for us to stop trusting in our dead works, and start placing our faith in God to totally save us. ("Repentance from dead works", = principle one, and "faith toward God" = principle two.)
In the beginning of your comment above you stated ...
Sir I believe the actual text itself I don't have a case.
I think that is the difference between you and I.
Just read hebrews 6 and tell me what you think of it.
Because it does not support OSAS.
It mentions in verse one that apostacy doctrine is not a docrtrine of works.
A) Where in my above comments did I NOT present the "actual text"?
B) Where exactly in verse one did you see 1) the word apostasy; or 2) any mention of apostasy?
You clearly stated:
It mentions in verse one that apostacy doctrine is not a docrtrine of works.
Again, where in verse one is apostasy mentioned?