Crucifixion or crucifiction?

[mathinspiration]

Is there any historical evidence that these kinds of executions happened in Ancient ones? Did the Romans do these executions or not? There are people who deny these things happened in the old days like people deny the Holocaust.

 

[GodsGrace101]

Is there any historical evidence that these kinds of executions happened in Ancient ones? Did the Romans do these executions or not? There are people who deny these things happened in the old days like people deny the Holocaust.

People that deny the holocaust are pretty dumb too.
Crucifixions really happened.
All history books can't be wrong.

 

[tampasteve]

Yes, there is LOTS of historical accounts, and many different ways to crucify people. Much like the holocaust, there are always going to be people that deny facts in spite of overwhelming evidence otherwise.

Most debates around the crucifixion are more centered around the method (cross, tree, stake, etc.) not so much the punishment or if the Romans in fact crucified people.

 

[Phil W]

Is there any historical evidence that these kinds of executions happened in Ancient ones? Did the Romans do these executions or not? There are people who deny these things happened in the old days like people deny the Holocaust.

There sure is historical evidence.
Google it or look it up on wikipedia.

 

[GodsGrace101]

There sure is historical evidence.
Google it or look it up on wikipedia.

He could study the Roman Caesars.
Some did this for fun.
A couple would light the body with fire to use as lanterns.

To deny this is to deny history.

 

[Lost4words]

Do you believe in Jesus? If so, then you must believe that He WAS crucified.

Crucifixion was a common Roman punishment.

 

[GodsGrace101]

Do you believe in Jesus? If so, then you must believe that He WAS crucified.

Crucifixion was a common Roman punishment.

Good point.

But I think the O.P. is not speaking about himself.

 

[Lost4words]

Good point.

But I think the O.P. is not speaking about himself.

Herself

 

[GodsGrace101]

Herself

LOL
Yes. I do believe that's a skirt.
Well, it could have been a scottish man!!
JK
Thanks.

 

[Hammster]

Is there any historical evidence that these kinds of executions happened in Ancient ones? Did the Romans do these executions or not? There are people who deny these things happened in the old days like people deny the Holocaust.

Scripture says they took place. It’s historically accurate.

 

[Matthew ten Verseight]

Is there any historical evidence that these kinds of executions happened in Ancient ones? Did the Romans do these executions or not? There are people who deny these things happened in the old days like people deny the Holocaust.

Consider, in addition to the already mentioned scripture, the book by Justus Lipsius', entitled Opera Omnia, Postremum ab ipso aucta et recensita, nunc primum ... Volume 3 ... aka “De Cruce Liber Primus” -
Opera omnia, postremum ab ipso aucta et recensita, nunc primum ..., Volume 3

- Specifically see Pages:

Page 1174 - Opera omnia, postremum ab ipso aucta et recensita, nunc primum ..., Volume 3
Page 1176 - Opera omnia, postremum ab ipso aucta et recensita, nunc primum ..., Volume 3
Page 1177 - Opera omnia, postremum ab ipso aucta et recensita, nunc primum ..., Volume 3
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See also Josephus Antiquities of the Jews, Volume XX, "Crucified" - http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/josephus/ant-20.htm

"... As a public mode of execution crucifixion gave free vent to the sadistic impulses of the executioners (Josephus BJ 5.1 I . I [451]; Seneca Dial. 6.20.3; Ep. 101). It was preceded by scourging and other forms of torture. Criminals were often required to wear a placard around their necks listing the reason for execution (Suetonius Caligula 52.2; Domitian 10.1; Eusebius H E 5.1.44; cf. Mark 15:26 par.). Both men and women were crucified. ..." - Link

 

[AnonymitycodeBoanerges]

Is there any historical evidence that these kinds of executions happened in Ancient ones? Did the Romans do these executions or not? There are people who deny these things happened in the old days like people deny the Holocaust.

Hello I’m new here

There was the trial with Pontius Pilate the governor Rome, and then the people try him; I can imagine the magnitude of his sacrifice.

A while back I did a study of a type suffering Romans did in type’s crucifixion on anyone, more so in our Lord. the word crucifixion is not in the bible though, but people at that time said or were saying crucified him! Luke 23: 21.
I wish I could share with the people

 

[AnonymitycodeBoanerges]

Oh I did find that the Holocaust did happen its in the bible in Psalm

 

[jamiec]

Is there any historical evidence that these kinds of executions happened in Ancient ones? Did the Romans do these executions or not? There are people who deny these things happened in the old days like people deny the Holocaust.

There is abundant evidence for the use of crucifixion in antiquity.

It was used by the Greeks, Romans, Jews, and other peoples. I strongly recommend "Crucifixion", by the late Martin Hengel, a Lutheran: Crucifixion: In the Ancient World and the Folly of the Message of the Cross

See also the contents page of the book.

As a rule, the Romans reserved crucifixion for the trash of society: slaves, and suchlike. In one his speeches, Cicero (106-43 BC) said:

"Wretched is the loss of one's
good name in the public courts,
wretched, too, a monetary fine
exacted from one's property,
and wretched is exile.

But, still, in each calamity
there is retained some trace of liberty.
Even if death is set before us,
we may die in freedom.

But the executioner,
the veiling of heads,
and the very word ‘cross,’
let them all be far removed
from not only the bodies
of Roman citizens
but even from their thoughts,
their eyes, and their ears."

- from Pro Rabirio Postumo, 16.

Plenty more Cicero on crucifixion here: SNIPPET // Cicero on crucifixion, floggings, and Roman citizenship – St. Eutychus

A page with more info: A Most Cruel and Ignominious Punishment

And a few more:

• “He was whipped until his bones showed.”
  —Josephus (AD 37-100), Wars of the Jews, 6.5.3
• “Each criminal who goes to execution must carry his own cross on his back.”
  —Plutarch (AD 46-about 120), Sera, 554

• “Some hang their victims upside down. Some impale them through the private parts. Others stretch out their arms onto forked poles.”
  —Seneca (about 4 BC-65 AD), To Marcia on Consolation, 20.3
• “Is there such a thing as a person who would actually prefer wasting away in pain on a cross—dying limb by limb one drop of blood at a time—rather than dying quickly? Would any human being willingly choose to be fastened to that cursed tree, especially after the beating that left him deathly weak, deformed, swelling with vicious welts on shoulders and chest, and struggling to draw every last, agonizing breath? Anyone facing such a death would plead to die rather than mount the cross.”
  —Seneca, (about 4 BC-65 AD), Epistulae morales (Moral Letters), 101.14
• “Reliable witnesses . . . . saw the man being dragged to the cross while crying out that he was a Roman citizen. And you, Verres, confirm that he did cry out that he was a Roman citizen, yet you sent him to a most cruel and shameful death anyhow!”
  —Cicero, Against Verres, 70 BC, 2.5.64
• “Every day Roman soldiers caught 500 Jews or more. . . . The soldiers driven by their hatred of the Jews nailed them to crosses. They nailed them in many different positions, to entertain themselves and to horrify the Jews watching this spectacle from inside the walled city of Jerusalem. In time, the soldiers ran out of wood for crosses, and room for crosses even if they had found more wood.”
  —Josephus (AD 37-100), Wars of the Jews, 5.11.1

What Romans said about crucifixion - Stephen M. Miller [I have omitted one quotation, because I think it may be unhistorical.]

 

[OzSpen]

Is there any historical evidence that these kinds of executions happened in Ancient ones? Did the Romans do these executions or not? There are people who deny these things happened in the old days like people deny the Holocaust.

math,

Why don't you read Martin Hengel's research in books such as: Crucifixion?

Oz

 

[OzSpen]

People that deny the holocaust are pretty dumb too.
Crucifixions really happened.
All history books can't be wrong.

GodsGrace 101,

The late Martin Hengel did a lot of research into crucifixions in the ancient world. See this review of his book, Crucifixion in the Ancient World and the Folly of the Message of the Cross.

I think we need to be specific about historical examples of crucifixions in ancient times.

Oz

 

[OzSpen]

Oh I did find that the Holocaust did happen its in the bible in Psalm

I hope you're joking. The Holocaust involved the slaughter of approx 6 million Jews during WW II by the Nazis.

Oz

 

[Hammster]

math,

Why don't you read Martin Hengel's research in books such as: Crucifixion?

Oz

Or read the gospels.

 

[OzSpen]

Or read the gospels.

That won't tell us the history of the practice of crucifixion in the first century. It gives one example in the Gospels of 2 others crucified with Jesus.

 

[jamiec]

math,

Why don't you read Martin Hengel's research in books such as: Crucifixion?

Oz

An excellent choice, that book.