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I have pondered that. I am not a professional philosopher, but is there really any such thing as "hate speech." There is speech that contains anti-biblical hate, but to describe the entirety of a speech as "hate" seems illogical since speech is no more hate than hate is speech.

As "hate" is now being so widely and seemingly inappropriately used, "hate" itself is considered solely within a negative connotation. But "hate" is not itself negative or evil, if it is otherwise, then God would not hate and neither would Scripture encourage Christians to hate certain things that God hates.

Thinking individuals must work against efforts to redefine words, doing otherwise makes it increasingly difficult to describe true and biblical concepts.
I agree.

I think that, if Jesus was alive today, He would be accused of "hate speech".

Remember? He called the high priests Hypocrites and vipers?
 
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I agree.

I think that, if Jesus was alive today, He would be accused of "hate speech".

Remember? He called the high priests Hypocrites and vipers?
I recall certain bible writers using certain strong labels such as "beasts."
 
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Hate speech is a word or term used against anything that does not conform to the new trend of "not offending anyone".

Everyone is "offended" for this and "offended" for that.... I'm offended by how easily people are offended.

In the end times, we are told, people will not endure sound doctrine.... hmmmm sounds about right eh?

"Hey, I don't like what you are saying, it makes me look at myself and see that I'm not perfect, or that I'm doing things that are not righteous, moral or even of basic intelligence...... so........I'm offended and I'm playing my HATE SPEECH card to shut you up.
 
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In terms of law and policy, we now have President that has done more to further the Christian agenda in the US than any other US president in recent history. That of course is contrary to pre-Rapture inevitable decline claims.

There are other examples. The Reformation; civil rights improvements in the 60's, etc. The evidence does in fact deny the Pre-Rapture inevitable decline claim.

Eschatology impacts our evangelistic efforts and results. That is a fact.
You can't really use events that happened hundreds of years ago as an argument to say the world is in a state of moral decline now. I won't deny the civil rights movement in the 60's was a just cause, however the LGBT community has sabotaged that same movement to justify their sinful lifestyle.
I'm not a Trump hater by any means, but he and the new conservatives are advancing faitheism, not Christianity. So are the Democrats. Many are of the mindset that Jesus was a great guy and is our example of how to live, but there's no need to actually accept him as savior. As long as we do are loving and not hateful, we're good to go. This mindset is why you're being banned from YouTube. Think homosexuality is a sin? Hate speech. Banned. Think abortion is a sin? Hateful. Banned. Guess whats next? Banned from credit and banking; no more buying and trading for you! Does that bring to mind any end time Bible prophecies? I can give you links to a few instances of this that have already occurred if you like, but I'm getting off topic a bit. The fact is we are in a state of moral decline because our society is placing its faith in what it perceives as being virtuous and loving rather than in Jesus (who IS love). Remember what Jesus said about the last days. "For false messiahs and false prophets will rise up and perform great signs and wonders so as to deceive, if possible, even God’s chosen ones." (Matthew 24:24)
 
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Praying that the social media giants fail in their attempts to remove and or censor the Christian influence and work on their platforms. This is spiritual battle. Praying against the Enemy's work in this.
 
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Either I don't understand what you're saying, or you don't understand what I'm saying.

I agree that publishers (of news) have to limit what they say in that they must be factual and non biased. That was what I stated. I agree that they can't publish false or slanderous pieces. But that's precisely my point.

But then you say "honesty is not a requirement to be a publisher". What do you mean by that? Surely honesty is exactly what is required for factual, non-biased news? Synonyms for "honesty" are "integrity" or "fairness". These are the exact things I, and all of us, should expect from a news publisher.

I suspect you don't mean 'honesty' but you mean something else. I can't figure out what it is you mean, however.

Honesty is not a legal requirement to be a Publisher. You can publish what you know to be lies, though you obviously risk a lot by doing so if someone decides to sue you for slander. This is all I meant by that line.

Do you take what comedians say the same as what serious people say? I don't.

It depends. Comedians have viewpoints and we can tell when they're being serious or offering an argument that isn't purely comedy. Either they have a good argument or it's a bad argument, even if some jokes and wedged in there.
 
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Another straw-man. Come on now.

The evidence of real anti-Christian bias is there concerning the social media giants.

Just because they choose not to have people using their platform as a soapbox to broadcast what most people in society agree to be unacceptable doesn't mean they're anti-Christian.

If you really feel the need to tell people they're going to burn in hell because they believe something different to you, I'm sure you can spread that 'love' on a street somewhere and not feel entitled to use a private business' service in the process.

I mean, I am guessing you supported the Christian bakers refusing cakes to gay people(but not fat people, ironically), right?
 
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EG "It's a clump of cells, not a human being"

For a long time, that's all it is. I've seen countless of them by choice or otherwise during my time working in a surgical setting and you'd never know what it was unless you were told or were aware of the procedure.
 
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Define pre-born?

An actual child or a *bigotry edited out*
Yeah, this is the hate speech I'm talking about. "clump of cells" is what bigots say when they want to deny equality to the preborn.

"Pre-born" refers to any human being before birth.
 
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For a long time, that's all it is. I've seen countless of them by choice or otherwise during my time working in a surgical setting and you'd never know what it was unless you were told or were aware of the procedure.

"They look different. Therefore they're not humans!" It's like when neo-nazis say "Well, they look like gorillas to me!"

Human life begins at conception. That's not a matter of opinion. A new member of the species exists.
 
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Yeah, this is the hate speech I'm talking about. "clump of cells" is what bigots say when they want to deny equality to the preborn.

"Pre-born" refers to any human being before birth.

Where does it end?

Monty Python's 'Every Sperm is Sacred' rings a bell.
 
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Where does it end?

Monty Python's 'Every Sperm is Sacred' rings a bell.

We're talking about fifth or sixth grade education here.

“Human life begins at fertilization, the process during which a male gamete or sperm (spermatozoo developmentn) unites with a female gamete or oocyte (ovum) to form a single cell called a zygote. This highly specialized, totipotent cell marked the beginning of each of us as a unique individual.” Keith L. Moore, The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology, 7th edition. Philadelphia, PA: Saunders, 2003. pp. 16, 2.


“The life cycle of mammals begins when a sperm enters an egg.” Okada et al., A role for the elongator complex in zygotic paternal genome demethylation, NATURE 463:554 (Jan. 28, 2010)
 
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EG "It's a clump of cells, not a human being"
Ya, see.... I just see that as an opinion.

We cannot control the opinions of others. That's not freedom.

You cannot stop them from stating that, anymore than they should be able to stop you from saying "abortion is murder". Or "all have sinned".

Do you see what I'm saying?

Now, if someone was to stand on a street corner and say "everyone, police are bad, go attack them"... Now you are inciting violence and telling others to commit a crime...

That is not hate speech either. It's something else.
 
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In all honesty, I really don't think YouTube knows what the heck they are doing. I've watched some channels and one of them is a very seriously comedic channel. I say that because they truly are a comedic channel, but serious in such a way that they actually have a lawyer due to all this nonsense. It's pretty sad in order to keep your channel, you have to resort to that kind of protection from those who kick and scream about "offenses" that are really not offensive at all.

One group have become so whiny that they want to control speech in any way they can and ban those who disagree. That is the real fight going on right now concerning speech.

I'm just waiting to see if and when YouTube becomes bankrupt from all this, they can't even get their policies to stick because their too busy trying to please everyone.
 
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You can't really use events that happened hundreds of years ago as an argument to say the world is in a state of moral decline now. I won't deny the civil rights movement in the 60's was a just cause, however the LGBT community has sabotaged that same movement to justify their sinful lifestyle.
I'm not a Trump hater by any means, but he and the new conservatives are advancing faitheism, not Christianity. So are the Democrats. Many are of the mindset that Jesus was a great guy and is our example of how to live, but there's no need to actually accept him as savior. As long as we do are loving and not hateful, we're good to go. This mindset is why you're being banned from YouTube. Think homosexuality is a sin? Hate speech. Banned. Think abortion is a sin? Hateful. Banned. Guess whats next? Banned from credit and banking; no more buying and trading for you! Does that bring to mind any end time Bible prophecies? I can give you links to a few instances of this that have already occurred if you like, but I'm getting off topic a bit. The fact is we are in a state of moral decline because our society is placing its faith in what it perceives as being virtuous and loving rather than in Jesus (who IS love). Remember what Jesus said about the last days. "For false messiahs and false prophets will rise up and perform great signs and wonders so as to deceive, if possible, even God’s chosen ones." (Matthew 24:24)
the gays are sick and tired of being murdered ,beaten and emotionally abused by people who are egged on by so called Christian religious leaders. In this case I’d support their reasonable civil right to be left in peace.
 
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the gays are sick and tired of being murdered ,beaten and emotionally abused by people who are egged on by so called Christian religious leaders. In this case I’d support their reasonable civil right to be left in peace.
AIDs and others STDs -- the inevitable harvest of the promiscuous queer lifestyle, have killed far more queers than any pitch-fork and torch wielding mob of Christian villagers. Actually, one of Matthew Shepards killers was bisexual. You're swallowing lies.

Actually, while you mention it: lesbian women are more likely to wife-beat their wives than normal men are.

That said, Dr. Lisa Diamond, the author on the APA Handbook on Human Sexuality points out that we know from research that people are not 'born that way' and 'stuck that way' and that activists need to stop repeating the lie. IMO, it's time for a movement to find a cure for it.
 
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