Did the event of 1948 Israel fulfill any Bible prophecy?

Did event of Israel 1948 fulfill any Bible prophecy?


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LittleLambofJesus

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LittleLambofJesus said:
Not when it comes to the Sacred Scriptures........
The 1st century Jewish rulers found that out the hard way in 70ad.

John 5:39 "Ye are searching the Writings that ye are seeming in them life age-during to be having, and those are the ones-testifying about Me".

2 Peter 3:16
As also/and in all the letters, speaking in them about these-things; in which are difficult to understand any which the un-learned and un-steadfast are wresting/twisting as also the rest of Writings, toward the own of them destruction/apwleian <684>. [# 684 used reve 17:8, 11]

Revelation 14:11
And the smoke of the tormenting of them is ascending into Ages to-Ages. And not they are having Rest/anapausin <372> day and night [Matt 11:29/Hebrew 4:3]
So you think I'm twisting the scriptures to my own destruction and will burn in hell forever? That's harsh. :eek:
Only if you equate yourself with the 1st century Jewish rulers :confused:

Matthew 23:
15 Woe to ye Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! That ye are going about the sea and the dry/xhran <3584> to make one proselyte, and whenever he may be becoming, ye are making him a son of geennhV<1067> twofold-more of ye-selves
33 "Serpents! brood of vipers! how? ye may be fleeing from the judging<2920> of the gehenna <1067>

Gehenna - Wikipedia

Gehenna is a small valley in Jerusalem. In the Hebrew Bible, Gehenna was initially where some of the kings of Judah sacrificed their children by fire.[1] Thereafter, it was deemed to be cursed (Jer. 7:31, 19:2-6).[2]

In rabbinic literature Gehenna is a destination of the wicked.[3] This is different from the more neutral Sheol/Hades, the abode of the dead, although the King James Version of the Bible usually translates both with the Anglo-Saxon word Hell.

In the King James Version of the Bible, the term appears 13 times in 11 different verses as Valley of Hinnom, Valley of the son of Hinnom or Valley of the children of Hinnom.

The Valley of Hinnom is the modern name for the valley surrounding Jerusalem's Old City, including Mount Zion, from the west and south. It meets and merges with the Kidron Valley, the other principal valley around the Old City, near the southeastern corner of the city.
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Matthew 24 Mount of Olives and Titus's 10th Legion on Mt Olives 70ad

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https://www.preteristarchive.com/JewishWars/timeline_military.html

APRIL, A.D. 70 - PHASE ONE
THE ROMAN ARMY ARRIVES AT JERUSALEM TO PREPARE THE SIEGE

The first night of Titus' encampment with the 15th, 3rd and 18th Legions, the 5th Legion arrived from Emmaus and set camp north of the city on Mount Scopus.
Later the next day, the famed 10th Legion (founded by Julius Caesar) marched in from Jericho and camped on the Mount of Olives, east of the city.
Instead of waiting to starve the Jews into submission, Titus decides to assault many different parts of the city and overwhelm the defenders. Titus was early on in the middle of the fighting with his soldiers. At least two times, Titus and his detachment are surrounded by defenders, only to escape unharmed.


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Only if you equate yourself with the 1st century Jewish rulers :confused:

Matthew 23:
15 Woe to ye Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! That ye are going about the sea and the dry/xhran <3584> to make one proselyte, and whenever he may be becoming, ye are making him a son of geennhV<1067> twofold-more of ye-selves
33 "Serpents! brood of vipers! how? ye may be fleeing from the judging<2920> of the gehenna <1067>

Gehenna - Wikipedia

Gehenna is a small valley in Jerusalem. In the Hebrew Bible, Gehenna was initially where some of the kings of Judah sacrificed their children by fire.[1] Thereafter, it was deemed to be cursed (Jer. 7:31, 19:2-6).[2]

In rabbinic literature Gehenna is a destination of the wicked.[3] This is different from the more neutral Sheol/Hades, the abode of the dead, although the King James Version of the Bible usually translates both with the Anglo-Saxon word Hell.

In the King James Version of the Bible, the term appears 13 times in 11 different verses as Valley of Hinnom, Valley of the son of Hinnom or Valley of the children of Hinnom.

The Valley of Hinnom is the modern name for the valley surrounding Jerusalem's Old City, including Mount Zion, from the west and south. It meets and merges with the Kidron Valley, the other principal valley around the Old City, near the southeastern corner of the city.
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Matthew 24 Mount of Olives and Titus's 10th Legion on Mt Olives 70ad

304807_fe76ada45ae387c4178052fe52f3f292.JPG


https://www.preteristarchive.com/JewishWars/timeline_military.html

APRIL, A.D. 70 - PHASE ONE
THE ROMAN ARMY ARRIVES AT JERUSALEM TO PREPARE THE SIEGE

The first night of Titus' encampment with the 15th, 3rd and 18th Legions, the 5th Legion arrived from Emmaus and set camp north of the city on Mount Scopus.
Later the next day, the famed 10th Legion (founded by Julius Caesar) marched in from Jericho and camped on the Mount of Olives, east of the city.
Instead of waiting to starve the Jews into submission, Titus decides to assault many different parts of the city and overwhelm the defenders. Titus was early on in the middle of the fighting with his soldiers. At least two times, Titus and his detachment are surrounded by defenders, only to escape unharmed.


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No worries, they didn't espouse British Israelism. ;)
 
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LittleLambofJesus said:
Only if you equate yourself with the 1st century Jewish rulers :confused:
No worries, they didn't espouse British Israelism. ;)
After 70 ad, it didn't matter what they did or didn't espouse, as they disappeared and became a footstool for the feet of Jesus and the Saints......... ;)

Matthew 3:7 Seeing yet many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming upon his baptism he said to them "brood of vipers! who suggested to ye to be fleeing from the being about wrath?

Acts 5:17
Rising yet the Chief-Priest and all those together to-him--the being a sect of the Sadducees they are filled of-jealousy/boiling

Romans 16:20
The yet God of the Peace shall be crushing the Satan under the feet of ye in swiftness.
The grace of the Lord of us Jesus Christ with ye.

Rev 3:9
“Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.

3. The Sadducees | Bible.org

The Sadducees did not believe in the resurrection of the dead or the immortality of the soul, since these doctrines are not mentioned in the law of Moses. Neither did they believe in heaven or hell. They interpreted the law literally and tended to support strict justice as opposed to mercy toward the offender.
Since Jesus supported all these things opposed by the Sadducees, Jesus did not fit within the Sadducean movement.

Being closely associated with the Temple, the Sadducees disappeared from history when the Temple was destroyed in 70ad............................
 
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You didn't have any Scripture. I can't help you with that.
The fact that Jesus does not reign on earth now, is verified when you open your eyes and you see who the present rulers of the nations are.
Not only that, but we are plainly told that Satan is the current prince of this world. Matthew 4:8-9, Ephesians 6:10-11, 1 Peter 5:8

Your replies are petulant and unhelpful to anyone. If you can't see that Jesus is yet to take up His earthly reign, then God help you.
 
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keras, what is your source of this information? Mine is "Judah's Sceptre and Joseph's Birthright" by J.H. Allen, 1st copyright 1902. It is the most riveting bible 'study' I have ever read, and I have been a British Israelism believer since.
I have many books on Israel and their place in prophecy. Some debunk the idea of their existence, but most give a reasoned and factual exposition of what happened to them and their role in the end times.
I used to get the newletters from Yair Davidy, Brit-Am website. He un-friended me when I showed how the Jews would be decimated by the Lord's fiery wrath. The Kolhator.com people don't like me for the same reason.
The prophecy that shows this most plainly is Jeremiah 12:14-16 ….Only those Jews who follow the ways of My people, [Christians] will be allowed back into the holy Land.
 
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Present tense.

John was transported forward to the "Day of the Lord" (not Saturday or Sunday) to view end time events so of course he was writing in the present tense.
 
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Not a familiar term.
I'm surprised by this. You seem otherwise so well versed in scripture, it is surprising you are unfamiliar with John's "Last Hour" proclamation.
Gimme a scripture to work with.
1 John 2:18
18 Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour.
 
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John was transported forward to the "Day of the Lord" (not Saturday or Sunday) to view end time events so of course he was writing in the present tense.

Actually, he was instructed to write about the things that were (past tense), the things that ARE (present tense) and the things that were "about to take place"(near future tense). Revelation 1:19

And he was not transported forward to the Day of the Lord, He was heralding its then contemporary arrival. The Book of Revelation is nothing less than the apostolic witness of the contemporary, 1st century arrival of the Great Tribulation and Day of the Lord.
 
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John was transported forward to the "Day of the Lord" (not Saturday or Sunday) to view end time events so of course he was writing in the present tense.

Scripture disagrees.


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kyriakē
κυριακῇ
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relating to the Lord, ἡ κυριακῇ ἡμέρα, the day devoted to the Lord, sacred to the memory of Christ's resurrection, Revelation 1:10


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hēmera
ἡμέρᾳ ,
day
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ἡ κυριακῇ ἡμέρα, the Lord's day, i. e. the day on which Christ returned to life, Sunday therefore, Revelation 1:10
 
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I'm surprised by this. You seem otherwise so well versed in scripture, it is surprising you are unfamiliar with John's "Last Hour" proclamation.

1 John 2:18
18 Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour.

It appears that John thought the end was imminent.
 
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Scripture disagrees.


2960 [e]
kyriakē
κυριακῇ
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relating to the Lord, ἡ κυριακῇ ἡμέρα, the day devoted to the Lord, sacred to the memory of Christ's resurrection, Revelation 1:10


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hēmera
ἡμέρᾳ ,
day
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ἡ κυριακῇ ἡμέρα, the Lord's day, i. e. the day on which Christ returned to life, Sunday therefore, Revelation 1:10

The theme of Revelation is the end time "day of the Lord's vengeance".

"Day" from Strong's

"of the last day of this present age, the day Christ will return from heaven, raise the dead, hold the final judgment, and perfect his kingdom."
 
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Scripture disagrees.


2960 [e]
kyriakē
κυριακῇ
Lord’s
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relating to the Lord, ἡ κυριακῇ ἡμέρα, the day devoted to the Lord, sacred to the memory of Christ's resurrection, Revelation 1:10


2250 [e]
hēmera
ἡμέρᾳ ,
day
N-DFS

ἡ κυριακῇ ἡμέρα, the Lord's day, i. e. the day on which Christ returned to life, Sunday therefore, Revelation 1:10

Interesting that your source cites Daniel 12 as the prologue of Revelation: the Day of the Lord.
 
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The theme of Revelation is the end time "day of the Lord's vengeance".

"Day" from Strong's

"of the last day of this present age, the day Christ will return from heaven, raise the dead, hold the final judgment, and perfect his kingdom."

That's not where he cites Revelation 1:10.
 
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Yes, I didn't see that you don't agree about Jacob and Ephraim being the original Israel, that we are the inheritors of, thru Jesus.
It quite a confusing issue, but as we are told by Paul in 1 Corinthians 10:11 All those things that happen in ancient times are symbolic for what will happen to us.
All the Bible has significance, people with short attention spans miss a lot.
That's not the part that I disagreed with (that Jacob and Ephraim were the original Israel). It was the rest - that the ancient times were symbolic (and pointing to US). The prophecies point to JESUS - and He fulfilled the prophecies written about Him (except for His final return and final resurrection).
 
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