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Nope.
You just didn't accept the meaning of the scripture. I can't help you with that.
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Nope.
You just didn't accept the meaning of the scripture. I can't help you with that.
LittleLambofJesus said: ↑
Not when it comes to the Sacred Scriptures........
The 1st century Jewish rulers found that out the hard way in 70ad.
John 5:39 "Ye are searching the Writings that ye are seeming in them life age-during to be having, and those are the ones-testifying about Me".
2 Peter 3:16
As also/and in all the letters, speaking in them about these-things; in which are difficult to understand any which the un-learned and un-steadfast are wresting/twisting as also the rest of Writings, toward the own of them destruction/apwleian <684>. [# 684 used reve 17:8, 11]
Revelation 14:11
And the smoke of the tormenting of them is ascending into Ages to-Ages. And not they are having Rest/anapausin <372> day and night [Matt 11:29/Hebrew 4:3]
Only if you equate yourself with the 1st century Jewish rulersSo you think I'm twisting the scriptures to my own destruction and will burn in hell forever? That's harsh.
Only if you equate yourself with the 1st century Jewish rulers
Matthew 23:
15 Woe to ye Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! That ye are going about the sea and the dry/xhran <3584> to make one proselyte, and whenever he may be becoming, ye are making him a son of geennhV<1067> twofold-more of ye-selves
33 "Serpents! brood of vipers! how? ye may be fleeing from the judging<2920> of the gehenna <1067>
Gehenna - Wikipedia
Gehenna is a small valley in Jerusalem. In the Hebrew Bible, Gehenna was initially where some of the kings of Judah sacrificed their children by fire.[1] Thereafter, it was deemed to be cursed (Jer. 7:31, 19:2-6).[2]
In rabbinic literature Gehenna is a destination of the wicked.[3] This is different from the more neutral Sheol/Hades, the abode of the dead, although the King James Version of the Bible usually translates both with the Anglo-Saxon word Hell.
In the King James Version of the Bible, the term appears 13 times in 11 different verses as Valley of Hinnom, Valley of the son of Hinnom or Valley of the children of Hinnom.
The Valley of Hinnom is the modern name for the valley surrounding Jerusalem's Old City, including Mount Zion, from the west and south. It meets and merges with the Kidron Valley, the other principal valley around the Old City, near the southeastern corner of the city.
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Matthew 24 Mount of Olives and Titus's 10th Legion on Mt Olives 70ad
https://www.preteristarchive.com/JewishWars/timeline_military.html
APRIL, A.D. 70 - PHASE ONE
THE ROMAN ARMY ARRIVES AT JERUSALEM TO PREPARE THE SIEGE
The first night of Titus' encampment with the 15th, 3rd and 18th Legions, the 5th Legion arrived from Emmaus and set camp north of the city on Mount Scopus.
Later the next day, the famed 10th Legion (founded by Julius Caesar) marched in from Jericho and camped on the Mount of Olives, east of the city.
Instead of waiting to starve the Jews into submission, Titus decides to assault many different parts of the city and overwhelm the defenders. Titus was early on in the middle of the fighting with his soldiers. At least two times, Titus and his detachment are surrounded by defenders, only to escape unharmed.
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LittleLambofJesus said: ↑
Only if you equate yourself with the 1st century Jewish rulers
After 70 ad, it didn't matter what they did or didn't espouse, as they disappeared and became a footstool for the feet of Jesus and the Saints.........No worries, they didn't espouse British Israelism.
The fact that Jesus does not reign on earth now, is verified when you open your eyes and you see who the present rulers of the nations are.You didn't have any Scripture. I can't help you with that.
I have many books on Israel and their place in prophecy. Some debunk the idea of their existence, but most give a reasoned and factual exposition of what happened to them and their role in the end times.keras, what is your source of this information? Mine is "Judah's Sceptre and Joseph's Birthright" by J.H. Allen, 1st copyright 1902. It is the most riveting bible 'study' I have ever read, and I have been a British Israelism believer since.
Present tense.
....and the Last Hour?
How long is that and when did it start?
I'm surprised by this. You seem otherwise so well versed in scripture, it is surprising you are unfamiliar with John's "Last Hour" proclamation.Not a familiar term.
1 John 2:18Gimme a scripture to work with.
John was transported forward to the "Day of the Lord" (not Saturday or Sunday) to view end time events so of course he was writing in the present tense.
John was transported forward to the "Day of the Lord" (not Saturday or Sunday) to view end time events so of course he was writing in the present tense.
I'm surprised by this. You seem otherwise so well versed in scripture, it is surprising you are unfamiliar with John's "Last Hour" proclamation.
1 John 2:18
18 Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour.
Scripture disagrees.
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kyriakē
κυριακῇ
Lord’s
Adj-DFS
relating to the Lord, ἡ κυριακῇ ἡμέρα, the day devoted to the Lord, sacred to the memory of Christ's resurrection, Revelation 1:10
2250 [e]
hēmera
ἡμέρᾳ ,
day
N-DFS
ἡ κυριακῇ ἡμέρα, the Lord's day, i. e. the day on which Christ returned to life, Sunday therefore, Revelation 1:10
Scripture disagrees.
2960 [e]
kyriakē
κυριακῇ
Lord’s
Adj-DFS
relating to the Lord, ἡ κυριακῇ ἡμέρα, the day devoted to the Lord, sacred to the memory of Christ's resurrection, Revelation 1:10
2250 [e]
hēmera
ἡμέρᾳ ,
day
N-DFS
ἡ κυριακῇ ἡμέρα, the Lord's day, i. e. the day on which Christ returned to life, Sunday therefore, Revelation 1:10
The theme of Revelation is the end time "day of the Lord's vengeance".
"Day" from Strong's
"of the last day of this present age, the day Christ will return from heaven, raise the dead, hold the final judgment, and perfect his kingdom."
Interesting that your source cites Daniel 12 as the prologue of Revelation: the Day of the Lord.
That's not the part that I disagreed with (that Jacob and Ephraim were the original Israel). It was the rest - that the ancient times were symbolic (and pointing to US). The prophecies point to JESUS - and He fulfilled the prophecies written about Him (except for His final return and final resurrection).Yes, I didn't see that you don't agree about Jacob and Ephraim being the original Israel, that we are the inheritors of, thru Jesus.
It quite a confusing issue, but as we are told by Paul in 1 Corinthians 10:11 All those things that happen in ancient times are symbolic for what will happen to us.
All the Bible has significance, people with short attention spans miss a lot.