It's not a caravan at the border, it's an invasion

[Mountainmanbob]

 

[Jonathan Walkerin]

Adorable. You repeat the word invasion bazillion times and hope someone gets scared.

Just for kicks here is the official use for the word ;

An invasion is a military offensive in which large parts of combatants of one geopolitical entity aggressively enter territory owned by another such entity, generally with the objective of either conquering; liberating or re-establishing control or authority over a territory; forcing the partition of a country; altering the established government or gaining concessions from said government; or a combination thereof. An invasion can be the cause of a war, be a part of a larger strategy to end a war, or it can constitute an entire war in itself. Due to the large scale of the operations associated with invasions, they are usually strategic in planning and execution.[citation needed]

So which part of that do those 150+ inviduals daily Mexico is letting through actually accomplish ?

 

[Acts2:38]

I look back on history, and I can find that letting in this many people so quickly and having no requirements of them (ie allowing them to have Americans benefits/entitlements so freely when they come in) and just basically overall mismanagement, is a bad thing.

The Roman empire began its decline with the mismanagement of the Goths, who were migrants coming into their lands due to fear of the Huns. See any similarities here today?

Latin Americans leaving in supposed fear of something whether it be complete country wide poverty or a leader too harsh, so they come here. We take them in, mismanage our resources for them, Dems make them think they are their friends giving free stuff but dont care really only for votes to stay in power, Dems use that power to keep everyone in poverty and no desire to do anything since they get free things so long as they are staying below a set money value to be allowed those resources. Meanwhile it drives up the debt giving all this free stuff and pulling down those who have desire to do better and giving no more incentives for them until their group becomes such a minority the country bankrupts itself and everything crumbles.

 

[Jonathan Walkerin]

The Roman empire began its decline with the mismanagement of the Goths, who were migrants coming into their lands due to fear of the Huns. See any similarities here today?

The Roman decline really began when they started treating Goths like dirt while starving and dehumanizing them. See any similarities here today ?

You guys are supposed to be the melting pot of immigrants and it seems to have worked out quite well.

Now Fox news tries desperately to say that all the immigrants are somehow only lazy criminal invaders totally unlike those immigrants that made US the only superpower we have today.

Funny how times change.

 

[Danielwright2311]

I can not believe they let people who do not know the definition of invasion on tv like this so easy.

 

[section9+1]

If the US ever decides to invade a country we should have all our soldiers go home and instead send troops of unarmed women and children into that country. It will confound them to the point that they will have to let them in and we can take that country without firing a shot. Can't call it an invasion so how can they refuse us?

 

[Kaon]

Did everyone forget how America was formed, and the justification we are supposed to give?

Turnabout is fair play, and empires are always rewarded with the same measure of tyranny they impose. Not to mention how the people sell their nations to psychopaths for pleasures and comfort. We should stop destabilizing the nations the people are coming from, then maybe they won't feel the need to "escape". This "invasion" is a consequence of decades geopolitics gone sour.

 

[Jonathan Walkerin]

If the US ever decides to invade a country

IF. Amusing......

 

[section9+1]

Is it wrong for a secular country to invade another one? If so, what is being violated?

 

[Kaon]

Is it wrong for a secular country to invade another one? If so, what is being violated?

Everything is violated (and fair game) when a secular or religious nation invades another nation. At best, you can bet that the population would be culled of anyone who disagrees with the "winners," and in general the people become commodities/products (usually in the form of human rights violation like slavery or indefinite imprisonment.) Most times the learned people are all murdered unless they are obedient to the new system - which leaves an aimless generation of people who forget their history and the foundation of their demise.

When Russia and China invade the States, will you accept their terms and conditions easily? Will their takeover be justified?

 

[Tom 1]

'There is really little point to discussing propaganda. It is a matter of practice, not of theory. One cannot determine theoretically whether one propaganda is better than another. Rather, that propaganda is good that has the desired results, and that propaganda is bad that does not lead to the desired results. It does not matter how clever it is, for the task of propaganda is not to be clever, its task is to lead to success'.

Goebbels knew his propaganda.

 

[WherevertheWindblows]

How do many of these illegal immigrants afford these coyote's fees? Those fees are stated to be anywhere from $7,000- 10,000 to help get them smuggled into the U.S from what I read.

Theres a special app by a Soros funded group (which supposedly receives $200,000 of U.S Federal funds) which assists them in evading immigration authorities.

On the point of war (as it may or may not relate to the caravans) there is different kind of warfare. Obviously, there are weapons of war against flesh and blood which kill (like any nations military would) then there is spiritual warfare. There is cyber warfare, economic warfare. Seems more like economic warfare to take a 22 trillion dollar (in debt) country who has been looted by nations like China (who was doing just that) and then on another level one party steering the populations youth towards socialism while we observe socialistic nations like Venezuela crumbling under it. A combination, Ideological/economic/ demographic warfare assisted by the ministry of propaganda. Like trying to disarm this nation, before socialism become a thing in Venezuela (before it became destitute) which citizens will likely be fleeing here (where certain political campaigns are now pushing this socialism here as well).

Venezuela also disarmed its citizens first under the pretense of keeping children safe, same sort of play book is being played out here, every school shooting is met with politicians suggesting disarming the population. They used to be less obvious about it, now they are pretty forward about it

Various sources reporting that 30 percent of the children they do a DNA test on accompanied by adults aren't even related to those who are bringing them over. The policies are destructive across the board and good for no one really.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Did everyone forget how America was formed, and the justification we are supposed to give?

Turnabout is fair play, and empires are always rewarded with the same measure of tyranny they impose. Not to mention how the people sell their nations to psychopaths for pleasures and comfort. We should stop destabilizing the nations the people are coming from, then maybe they won't feel the need to "escape". This "invasion" is a consequence of decades geopolitics gone sour.

Is America reaping what it has sown based on its own violent history of either slaughtering or forcibly removing Native Americans from their lands so white people could have that land for themselves?

 

[RDKirk]

If the Powers That Be were truly interested in stemming illegal immigration, they would simply remove the cheese: Start prosecuting the employers of illegal immigrants.

But they're not going to do that because illegal labor is worth billions to US business.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

As far as I'm aware, there haven't been any White people who have been slaughtered for their land or forcibly removed from their land and moved to barren wastelands to starve to death in poverty. I also haven't heard of any death marches of massive groups of White people or any massacres of a group of White people who were shot in cold blood. I haven't heard of such a horrific massacre like Sand Creek or Wounded Knee yet. So, when are the land runs going to start where Boomer and Sooner Hispanics race each other to take White people's land that has been opened up to them? Any news on that?

In the meantime, let's hope there will never be White Children Boarding Schools opening up across the country. It would be absolutely terrible if little White children were arbitrarily taken from their family and forced to assimilate into Hispanic culture and forced to speak Spanish instead of their own English language. I wonder if there will be a Bureau of White Affairs to keep all the subjugated White people in check. I also wonder if White people will be required to register their blood quantum status with the new Hispanic government. Maybe White people will have to provide proof that they are actually white and will have to register their blood status pedigree just like it's required for dogs and horses.

 

[Kaon]

Is America reaping what it has sown based on its own violent history of either slaughtering or forcibly removing Native Americans from their lands so white people could have that land for themselves?

You think its just the native treatment that is a problem? America (the entity) still treats descendants of natives and slaves like its red-headed step children.


It isn't reaping what has been sown necessarily - it is just the way empires work. The people you mess over to build your empire are usually the ones that bring it down. You have to abandon your effective, but (socially and ethically) destructive base because as your empire grows (and more people are attracted) your culture changes in favor of inclusion and equality for all.

America often gets involved in non-nuclear powered nations for the purposes of regime change; once we abandon the nations the people are left with despots and destitution. The response is a generational influx of refugees because of the irresponsible actions of a nation. This is consequential, not a spite, or "recompense".

 

[Shiloh Raven]

You think its just the native treatment that is a problem? America (the entity) still treats descendants of natives and slaves like its red-headed step children.

No, of course not. I was trying to keep my response short by focusing on that one particular issue.

It isn't reaping what has been sown necessarily - it is just the way empires work. The people you mess over to build your empire are usually the ones that bring it down. You have to abandon your effective, but (socially and ethically) destructive base because as your empire grows (and more people are attracted) your culture changes in favor of inclusion and equality for all.
America often gets involved in non-nuclear powered nations for the purposes of regime change; once we abandon the nations the people are left with despots and destitution. The response is a generational influx of refugees because of the irresponsible actions of a nation. This is consequential, not a spite, or "recompense".

Thank you for your response.

 

[Yarddog]

Hmmm, refugees are now an invading army. Crazy is as crazy does.

 

[Acts2:38]

The Roman decline really began when they started treating Goths like dirt while starving and dehumanizing them. See any similarities here today ?

You guys are supposed to be the melting pot of immigrants and it seems to have worked out quite well.

Now Fox news tries desperately to say that all the immigrants are somehow only lazy criminal invaders totally unlike those immigrants that made US the only superpower we have today.

Funny how times change.

Okay... only the people getting mistreated and treated like dirt are the actual native citizens.
We are criticized daily for our historical past.
We are trampled on consistently for our views.
We are made to pay for things we cannot obtain ourselves regardless if we are in the same situation financially (ie It is stated in studies that illegal immigrants receive more benefits than actual American native citizens) and it costs the US citizen over 100 billion a year to pay for all these things for the non citizen.
We are criminalized for not wishing to take people who have NO respect for our system of laws in the first place, and taking advantage of our system.

Who are you to tell us anything outsider?

Sweden: By Turns Welcoming and Restrictive in its Immigration Policy
Oh, you guys got some troubles too. Interesting, while you tout your garbage at me.

Until we can stabilize and take care of the people we already have, also establishing citizens that have more respect for the country they now live in and accept its constitution and views (not completely change them and trample them), then my answer would emphatically be NO MORE PEOPLE.

As far as I'm aware, there haven't been any White people who have been slaughtered for their land or forcibly removed from their land and moved to barren wastelands to starve to death in poverty.

Let me educate you then.

The Ottomans systematically did such as you mention to Armenians and Georgians (who claim euro descendants aka white people), etc etc. And thats just to name one.

Irish have also been placed hardship upon as well, granted it was by another white culture.

There are other examples in history as well if anyone cares to research the facts instead of acting out without knowing much on the matter like this.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Let me educate you then.

The Ottomans systematically did such as you mention to Armenians and Georgians (who claim euro descendants aka white people), etc etc. And thats just to name one.

Irish have also been placed hardship upon as well, granted it was by another white culture.

There are other examples in history as well if anyone cares to research the facts instead of acting out without knowing much on the matter like this.

I'll concede to the Irish immigrants example. The Irish certainly had some hardships, minus the death marches, countless massacres, the Reservations, and the American Indian Boarding Schools. But that still doesn't mean White people in America TODAY are facing an invasion as I described in some of the injustices and atrocities examples that happened to NDNs throughout early American history.