The bible is not pratical

Jude1:3Contendforthefaith

Well-Known Member
Supporter
Dec 28, 2017
3,778
2,856
Arizona
✟529,411.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
This also includes demon channeling freemasons, Knights Templar and occultists with in law enforcement and government agencies who channel demons, use witchcraft and demonic gifts "To See Other People's Sins". They also Burn In Hell Forever.

But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, Sorcerers, idolaters, AND ALL LIARS Shall Have Their Part In The Lake Which Burns With Fire And Brimstone, .....
Revelation 21:8







Now it happened, as we went to prayer, that a certain slave girl Possessed With A Spirit Of Divination met us, who brought her masters much profit by fortune-telling. This girl followed Paul and us, and cried out, saying, "These men are the servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to us the way of salvation." And this she did for many days. But Paul, greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, "I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her." And he came out that very hour.
• Acts 16:16-18


 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

SeventhFisherofMen

You cannot fool Jesus
Christian Forums Staff
Red Team - Moderator
Supporter
Jan 9, 2013
3,392
1,597
32
CA
✟392,455.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Separated
Politics
US-Republican
This also includes demon channeling freemasons, Knights Templar and occultists with in law enforcement and government agencies who use witchcraft and demonic gifts "To See Other People's Sins". They also Burn In Hell Forever.

But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, Sorcerers, idolaters, AND ALL LIARS Shall Have Their Part In The Lake Which Burns With Fire And Brimstone, .....
Revelation 21:8







Now it happened, as we went to prayer, that a certain slave girl possessed with a spirit of divination met us, who brought her masters much profit by fortune-telling. This girl followed Paul and us, and cried out, saying, "These men are the servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to us the way of salvation." And this she did for many days. But Paul, greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, "I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her." And he came out that very hour.
• Acts 16:16-18
Ya as a human being we are surrounded by such people, BUT we also can look at the Israelites in the OT who were commanded by God to live in Babylon for a time and pray for those around them.
This is our Babylon until Christ returns to take us Home and as someone who has had personal experience working alongside such people I have found myself to be protected from such as even Satanists acknowledge God as more powerful and as having the final say in such matters.

Look to Daniel or Joseph, two successful Biblical characters who functioned around people who were pagans, they succeeded as God Blessed then AND those for whom they served.
 
Upvote 0

topher694

Go Turtle!
Jan 29, 2019
3,828
3,038
St. Cloud, MN
✟186,760.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
This also includes demon channeling freemasons, Knights Templar and occultists with in law enforcement and government agencies who channel demons, use witchcraft and demonic gifts "To See Other People's Sins". They also Burn In Hell Forever.

But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, Sorcerers, idolaters, AND ALL LIARS Shall Have Their Part In The Lake Which Burns With Fire And Brimstone, .....
Revelation 21:8







Now it happened, as we went to prayer, that a certain slave girl possessed with a spirit of divination met us, who brought her masters much profit by fortune-telling. This girl followed Paul and us, and cried out, saying, "These men are the servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to us the way of salvation." And this she did for many days. But Paul, greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, "I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her." And he came out that very hour.
• Acts 16:16-18

I agree that all that stuff is bad, but you seem really focused on people burning in hell rather than saving them from it.
 
Upvote 0

Jude1:3Contendforthefaith

Well-Known Member
Supporter
Dec 28, 2017
3,778
2,856
Arizona
✟529,411.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
I agree that all that stuff is bad, but you seem really focused on people burning in hell rather than saving them from it.

I want them to repent and be saved.

They NEED to know where their sins will lead them.
 
Upvote 0

Maria Billingsley

Well-Known Member
Supporter
Oct 7, 2018
9,576
7,775
63
Martinez
✟893,955.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
In order to catch criminals undercover cops have to lie, deceive and often times cuss. They have to sin in order to catch criminals, which means that the bible is useless.

If we did things the way the bible tells, criminals would never get caught.
Rahab who, although she lied when she hid Israel’s spies, was described as being “justified”.
But on another note, if you are that person who lie's, deceives and cusses, then maybe you need to find another career rather than blame God for your bad choice.
Blessings
 
Upvote 0

Alithis

Disciple of Jesus .
Nov 11, 2010
15,750
2,180
Mobile
✟94,492.00
Country
New Zealand
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Just for the sake of discussion, it could be said that the Bible commands us not to lie and deceive our neighbor. Perhaps criminals are not the undercover policeman's neighbor?

Rahab seems to have been blessed for hiding and lying.

The Hebrew midwives seem to have been blessed for deceiving and lying.
This may be because a lie is to misinform with motive to harm ... Like the seepant in the garden did.
The egyptain midwives misinformed to preserve and protect innocent babies.. God judges the heart motive
 
Upvote 0

TRVL ONE

Active Member
May 14, 2019
276
42
48
Austin
✟3,685.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Divorced
Rahab who, although she lied when she hid Israel’s spies, was described as being “justified”.
But on another note, if you are that person who lie's, deceives and cusses, then maybe you need to find another career rather than blame God for your bad choice.
Blessings

I wouldn't want to face God after years of sinning for the government or anything else.
 
Upvote 0

TRVL ONE

Active Member
May 14, 2019
276
42
48
Austin
✟3,685.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Divorced
This may be because a lie is to misinform with motive to harm ... Like the seepant in the garden did.
The egyptain midwives misinformed to preserve and protect innocent babies.. God judges the heart motive

Where in the bible do you get your definition of what a lie is? If someone commits sexual immorality for the government is it not a sin? There are very few times in the bible that God approves of deceit. My guess is that "sinning" is not a concern for the CIA or any type of undercover work.
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

Tree of Life

Hide The Pain
Feb 15, 2013
8,824
6,243
✟48,077.00
Country
United States
Faith
Reformed
Marital Status
Married
In order to catch criminals undercover cops have to lie, deceive and often times cuss. They have to sin in order to catch criminals, which means that the bible is useless.

If we did things the way the bible tells, criminals would never get caught.

Deceit as a strategy in warfare is perfectly acceptable in Scripture.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: yeshuasavedme
Upvote 0

TRVL ONE

Active Member
May 14, 2019
276
42
48
Austin
✟3,685.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Divorced
This may be because a lie is to misinform with motive to harm ... Like the seepant in the garden did.
The egyptain midwives misinformed to preserve and protect innocent babies.. God judges the heart motive

What you're talking about is a very thin line and that line will get crossed a lot if you work for certain agencies for any government. If someone commits fornication for the government, because it is part of the work, it is still a sin. I have family that has done this, I was going to be a part of this, but I decided not too. They wanted me to have sex with people, to get close to them.
 
Upvote 0

TRVL ONE

Active Member
May 14, 2019
276
42
48
Austin
✟3,685.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Divorced
Deceit as a strategy in warfare is perfectly acceptable in Scripture.

With warfare I agree, God himself told the Israelites to set up an ambush. However; when you control a government so loosely that you have to sin to catch criminals, that is too much. People even have sex with people to get close to them in our government, I know because I was recruited to do this and I refused.
 
Upvote 0

Jude1:3Contendforthefaith

Well-Known Member
Supporter
Dec 28, 2017
3,778
2,856
Arizona
✟529,411.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
Deceit as a strategy in warfare is perfectly acceptable in Scripture.


Wrong.

But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, Sorcerers, idolaters, AND ALL LIARS Shall Have Their Part In The Lake Which Burns With Fire And Brimstone, .....
Revelation 21:8



This includes people who harass and attack someone in secret but pretend not to be, present themselves to be someone or something that they are not, etc.

It also includes those who take part in deceiving through Psyops.


 
Last edited:
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

dqhall

Well-Known Member
Supporter
Jul 21, 2015
7,547
4,171
Florida
Visit site
✟766,603.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
In order to catch criminals undercover cops have to lie, deceive and often times cuss. They have to sin in order to catch criminals, which means that the bible is useless.

If we did things the way the bible tells, criminals would never get caught.
Paul was on his way to try to arrest Christians who he thought were criminals as they did not follow some of the rules set forth by the Sanhedrin in Jerusalem. God blinded Paul on the road to Damascus (Acts 9). Paul continued as a blind man into Damascus. God then commanded a believer to lay hands on him so he could receive sight. Paul saw the light was convinced he should try to follow Jesus' example instead of serve his arrest warrants.

Hearing of the greatness of God's reward convinced four fishermen to leave their nets and follow Jesus. No court orders were required (Matt. 4:20).
 
Upvote 0

TRVL ONE

Active Member
May 14, 2019
276
42
48
Austin
✟3,685.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Divorced
Wrong.

But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, Sorcerers, idolaters, AND ALL LIARS Shall Have Their Part In The Lake Which Burns With Fire And Brimstone, .....
Revelation 21:8
God tells them to deceive the opposing army.

Joshua 8:6-7

6 They will pursue us until we have lured them away from the city, for they will say, ‘They are running away from us as they did before.’ So when we flee from them,
7 you are to rise up from ambush and take the city. The LORD your God will give it into your hand.
 
Upvote 0

Jude1:3Contendforthefaith

Well-Known Member
Supporter
Dec 28, 2017
3,778
2,856
Arizona
✟529,411.00
Country
United States
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
God tells them to deceive the opposing army.

Joshua 8:6-7

6 They will pursue us until we have lured them away from the city, for they will say, ‘They are running away from us as they did before.’ So when we flee from them,
7 you are to rise up from ambush and take the city. The LORD your God will give it into your hand.


Show me where in The New Testament and in The New Covenant where God tells people to lie.

Also, try giving that as an excuse at The Judgement Seat Of Christ and see how well that works out for you:


Throne%2B%26%2BScrolls%2B%2B850W.jpg
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

topher694

Go Turtle!
Jan 29, 2019
3,828
3,038
St. Cloud, MN
✟186,760.00
Country
United States
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Wrong.

But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, Sorcerers, idolaters, AND ALL LIARS Shall Have Their Part In The Lake Which Burns With Fire And Brimstone, .....
Revelation 21:8



This includes people who harass and attack someone in secret but pretend not to be, present themselves to be someone or something that they are not, etc.

It also includes those who take part in deceiving through Psyops.

Aaaaaaand, Repent and turn to Jesus and be saved... Cause He loves you and stuff.

(you're welcome)
 
Upvote 0