Trump's NeoCon: John Bolton

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1. Psalm 82:3 (KJV) Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.
2. Genesis 4:9 (KJV) And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper? (yes we are)
3. Genesis 12:3 (KJV) And I will bless them that bless thee (Jewish nation through Abraham), and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
(Iran is a sworn enemy of Israel and has threatened their annihilation repeatedly).
Old Testament Israel doesn’t exist. Modern Israel has nukes, so it wouldn’t matter what the US does.
 
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Old Testament Israel doesn’t exist. Modern Israel has nukes, so it wouldn’t matter what the US does.
The descendants of Abraham still exist and are returning to their Land Israel as foretold by the Prophets.
If the U.S. hadn't helped Israel with it's modern weaponry they would be sitting in Arab ovens right now.
 
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The descendants of Abraham still exist and are returning to their Land Israel as foretold by the Prophets.
If the U.S. hadn't helped Israel with it's modern weaponry they would be sitting in Arab ovens right now.
And they have great weaponry now including nukes. They don’t need 120,000 US troops.
 
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We aren’t hurting for oil.
True, thanks to strong foreign policy. You do remember the long gas lines under OPEC? That situation would have been 20x worse if we had done nothing since then.
 
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True, thanks to strong foreign policy. You do remember the long gas lines under OPEC? That situation would have been 20x worse if we had done nothing since then.
Which is all the more reason we don’t need to saddle up the cavalry now.
 
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1. Psalm 82:3 (KJV) Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.


Say what? Would you call defending the poor and powerless and needy what is happening in Yemen in the proxy war with Iran being carried out by the Saudis? We logistically supported that conflict, sold them munitions for that conflict, etc.

Thousands dead, millions displaced and starving is not defending the needy.

Humanitarian crisis in Yemen remains the worst in the world, warns UN
 
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Same result when evil is not resisted.

There's a reason why trite platitudes like this are not taught at the Army War College or in any ROTC classroom in America.

I don't appeal to patriotism, I appeal to biblical principles as all Christians should.

Biblical principles are not taught at the Naval War College nor are they part of the curriculum in any ROTC classroom.
 
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(Iran is a sworn enemy of Israel and has threatened their annihilation repeatedly).

I posted this link earlier. I suggest you read it.

Israel's Future and Iran's Nuclear Program | Middle East Policy Council

Iran isn't going to nuke Iran and ensure your own obliteration and neither the mullahs nor the military kleptocrats will allow that to happen. And again, eschatological fantasies (ala Left Behind, etc.) don't belong in Realpolitik foreign policy or war planning.
 
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How about a war before they get nukes..as in 'preventative measures'? Given Iran's history of terrorism, lying and deceit, do you think it's a good idea for them to have nukes?

Yeah, that's how we would justify a war. Just like the last time.

But you have to wonder why we should have nukes if we are tromping around the globe waging "preventative war" all the time.
 
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One America-lover to another:
Nah. I’m in the CF getting reported Hall of Fame. All you’d get is a warning.
You’re getting a wing of your own?

Many of us that are older America lovers don’t like sending our Armed Forces into pointless meat grinding situations like Vietnam and Iraq.

A belligerent America might be seen as “the problem” to a larger ratio of our adversaries than, “naw, they’re okay” amongst our allies?
 
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The biggest irony of all this is that the Iranian moderates had been making real progress in changing Iran until the US decided to humiliate them by pulling out of the deal that they'd spent considerable political capital getting the hardliners to sign up to.

Now the moderates look naive, the hardliners are stronger than ever and the US has also embarrased their allies in Europe and annoyed Russia and China unnecessarily for good measure.

Oh and of course now no country will trust in the US to honour its international agreements. It was a quite remarkable act of self-harm by the US, and now we're back to the old drumbeats of war as an added bonus, because apparently the quagmire of Iraq wasn't enough for some people.
 
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