Trump's NeoCon: John Bolton

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Got to love how all the examples are always taken from the wars with best justification of fighting them.

Funny how wiping out the Indians and stealing their lands get mentioned much less frequently.

Sending troops halfway around the world on the pretense that somebody isn't being nice to somebody somewhere is hardly my idea of "best justification", which is why I said our original foreign policy worked just great for us until 1917. Say what else you want about the Indian Wars, you can't say we didn't have a personal stake in the outcome.
 
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It's the price one pays for living in a country...any country.
Pacificism never kept a nation from losing their kids. Emotional appeal won't work here either.
What price are you asking other families to pay? Your appeal to “patriotism” is no less an emotional than the question I asked that you avoided answering.
 
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How about a war before they get nukes..as in 'preventative measures'? Given Iran's history of terrorism, lying and deceit, do you think it's a good idea for them to have nukes?
Their having nukes may actually make the region safer as they will be on an equal footing with the other nuclear powers in the region.
 
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Sending troops halfway around the world on the pretense that somebody isn't being nice to somebody somewhere is hardly my idea of "best justification", which is why I said our original foreign policy worked just great for us until 1917. Say what else you want about the Indian Wars, you can't say we didn't have a personal stake in the outcome.
What you mean “we”, kemo sabe?
 
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I would venture that US thinks that anyone else having a nukes is a bad idea. Unfortunately US has no legal right to forbid anyone from developing them nor enough superiority to enforce their will on global scale.

Also given thousands of nukes US has and the history of being the only nation to ever use them against cities this stinks of hypocrisy.
Tell me about Russia and it's forcing it's will on Syria.
Hello? This is an evil world with evil people and people are not basically good.
 
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What price are you asking other families to pay? Your appeal to “patriotism” is no less an emotional than the question I asked that you avoided answering.
I don't appeal to patriotism, I appeal to biblical principles as all Christians should.
 
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Outside oil there are our allies. Should we let them get massacred like Iran and Isis did to Iraq?

Alright, explain how our actions in Yemen keep our allies from getting slaughtered.
 
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We should probably just Nuke Iran and North Korea, then ask "who else want's some?"
Why stop there? You have enough nukes for everybody to go around. Just wipe out humanity and call it a day.
 
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What Biblical principles apply to American policy with Iran?
1. Psalm 82:3 (KJV) Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.
2. Genesis 4:9 (KJV) And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper? (yes we are)
3. Genesis 12:3 (KJV) And I will bless them that bless thee (Jewish nation through Abraham), and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
(Iran is a sworn enemy of Israel and has threatened their annihilation repeatedly).
 
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