Nazi Flag-Bearing Protesters at Holocaust Remembrance in Arkansas

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This year's march was supposed to be like all the others; attendees would march down Main Street, listen to speeches and offer prayers to commemorate and remember the 6 million Jews murdered by the Nazis during World War II.

Except white supremacists showed up holding Nazi flags, marching down an otherwise deserted sidewalk and signs that read, "The Holocaust didn't happen but it should have,"


That may not be the best way to make your case that it didn't happen -- indicating your support for mass murder.

Beryl Wolfson, 96, a Jewish WWII veteran, was first to speak. He saw the horrors of the Holocaust directly as he helped liberate the Nazi concentration camp at Dachau in Germany.

As he spoke on Sunday, protesters holding flags emblazoned with the same Nazi swastika as the banners he had helped tear down decades earlier tried to interrupt his speech with shouts and megaphones.


Support the troops!
 

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Has Trump called out this shameful display of racism against Jews yet? Wait... I think I already know the answer. Never mind. I guess he must think there are some "very fine people" on both sides.
 
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This year's march was supposed to be like all the others; attendees would march down Main Street, listen to speeches and offer prayers to commemorate and remember the 6 million Jews murdered by the Nazis during World War II.

Except white supremacists showed up holding Nazi flags, marching down an otherwise deserted sidewalk and signs that read, "The Holocaust didn't happen but it should have,"


That may not be the best way to make your case that it didn't happen -- indicating your support for mass murder.

Beryl Wolfson, 96, a Jewish WWII veteran, was first to speak. He saw the horrors of the Holocaust directly as he helped liberate the Nazi concentration camp at Dachau in Germany.

As he spoke on Sunday, protesters holding flags emblazoned with the same Nazi swastika as the banners he had helped tear down decades earlier tried to interrupt his speech with shouts and megaphones.


Support the troops!

Before Trump's presidential campaign such right wing demonstrations were very much rarer. His very presence on the political scene seems to have enabled the haters.
 
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Where is everyone?

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...Thereby exposing their faces to the entire world, allowing everyone to see who they are, what they believe, and begin formulating a plan to help them see the light.
Meanwhile in real world their open display of hate only emboldens others and draws more followers towards hate.
 
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Meanwhile in real world their open display of hate only emboldens others and draws more followers towards hate.

Or, more likely, makes people see how insanely idiotic their ideas are. In the world I live in, which is the real world, open displays of hate do not attract they repel. In order to attract followers one must disguise one's hate as moral outrage.
 
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I'd be curious as to why they deny the holocaust if not on moral grounds...
It seems that it is human nature to use "any" means necessary to oppose the arguments of people that have opinions different than yours.

You see it all the time, take an issue any issue, Side A will pretend Side B's arguments are completely and totally without merit. They will take a tone and argumentative position that implies you must be insane and morally bereft to oppose their argument...

An extension of that is to not only be opposed to the argument, but the people making the argument in general.

One of the interesting things about racist behavior is the ability to discount evidence that is right before your eyes. Evidence that you deem 100% acceptable in other circumstances suddenly becomes "not enough" or "not viable" when that same evidence supports the other side's argument. Take video evidence... When video evidence supports the other side's argument the best way to discount what you see is to use what you "don't" see as evidence, you will often hear people say, "Well, you don't know what happened before the video therefore I will not give this evidence any merit..."

That is such an interesting argument. You will discount what you see clear as day for what you don't see and you will give what you don't see and can't possibly know more merit than what you do see and do know... All for the sake of discounting an argument you don't like...

IN the case of those that deny the Holocaust, they do so because they want to remove the moral legitimacy behind Jews and how Jews were treated historically.
 
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...Thereby exposing their faces to the entire world, allowing everyone to see who they are, what they believe, and begin formulating a plan to help them see the light.

Not quite. "She estimates about 50 people attended her event [the Holocaust Remembrance] along with roughly 10 to 15 protesters [the wannabe Nazis] -- many of whom wore face coverings, according to video from the event."
 
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It seems that it is human nature to use "any" means necessary to oppose the arguments of people that have opinions different than yours.

You see it all the time, take an issue any issue, Side A will pretend Side B's arguments are completely and totally without merit. They will take a tone and argumentative position that implies you must be insane and morally bereft to oppose their argument...

An extension of that is to not only be opposed to the argument, but the people making the argument in general.

One of the interesting things about racist behavior is the ability to discount evidence that is right before your eyes. Evidence that you deem 100% acceptable in other circumstances suddenly becomes "not enough" or "not viable" when that same evidence supports the other side's argument. Take video evidence... When video evidence supports the other side's argument the best way to discount what you see is to use what you "don't" see as evidence, you will often hear people say, "Well, you don't know what happened before the video therefore I will not give this evidence any merit..."

That is such an interesting argument. You will discount what you see clear as day for what you don't see and you will give what you don't see and can't possibly know more merit than what you do see and do know... All for the sake of discounting an argument you don't like...

IN the case of those that deny the Holocaust, they do so because they want to remove the moral legitimacy behind Jews and how Jews were treated historically.

Those are all good points.
 
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Or, more likely, makes people see how insanely idiotic their ideas are. In the world I live in, which is the real world, open displays of hate do not attract they repel. In order to attract followers one must disguise one's hate as moral outrage.
I'd be happy to agree, but sadly after the last few years I have come to the conclusion that hate attracts hate.
 
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I'd be happy to agree, but sadly after the last few years I have come to the conclusion that hate attracts hate.

My experiences have been that the over-reaction to alleged hate tends to have so much in the way of collateral damage that it drives people *to* the more extreme positions.

This tends to happen in one of two ways.

#1. Researchers have established time & time again that when a label is consistently applied to someone over a long enough period of time, there's a good chance that the someone will, consciously or unconsciously, alter their behavior and mindset to fit that label. If the label is a negative one, the thought process ends up being "They've already branded me, so why not?". Thus, if you have a person who isn't an -ist, but they're constantly labeled as if they are, they have nothing to lose by openly embracing that identity and becoming what they were slandered as for so long.

#2. Tit - for - tat is a thing, too. Whenever people see something that they regard as evil, shocking, or oppressive, they tend to want to push back. This is why, for example, when Antifa started putting out "Good night alt right" material encouraging violence against their political opponents we very quickly saw "Hospital bills for Antifa shills" material crop up in response, a way of saying that people were gearing up for a fight in response.

It's all human psychology, something that far too many people don't seem to understand.
 
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I'd be happy to agree, but sadly after the last few years I have come to the conclusion that hate attracts hate.

By design. Psychology on humans can have intergenerational effects. Romanticism of human growth and potential is an exploitation of the psyche, and is the reason people are confused and emotional - surprised - when atrocities happen.

Humans have too much faith in humans, and other humans heavily exploit it. History shows this.

The hate is attractive in the States because the States never address their history destruction on hyphenated Americans, natives and (descendants of) slaves they use to fast track the nation, and keep in New Slavery. This way, when someone brings up the atrocities, it breeds hate and resentment - especially with the progeny of the masters of hate - and nothing is accomplished. Those aforementioned hated groups, thusly, look like they are whining and attempting to take over "their majority." This is just so painfully hackneyed I don't understand how in the age of college education for the serf people don't realize we are repeating history that is very recent.

Logic will handicap everyone who extols it in the coming days.
 
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Meanwhile in real world their open display of hate only emboldens others and draws more followers towards hate.

Do you mean inciting violence like "Knock the crap out of them!" or suggesting that the "Second Amendment" people could act against Hillary Clinton if she got elected or even boasting something like: "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Ave. and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters"?
 
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