NYT Gets Trump Tax Info 1985-1994

[GoldenBoy89]

Trump has defied the norms and Trump has done in less than 4 years what everyone else couldn't do in 30 years. He has lowered unemployment to record levels, he has brought back jobs that no one thought would come back. He has lowered taxes, something that hasn't happened decades. Those who were going by the norms were willing to run this country off a cliff.

Trump is not under an legal, constitutional obligation to show his tax returns. And given how his critics do nothing but smear him, I can see why he would not feel compelled to release them only to expose them to the same ongoing lies and smears that people like you constantly engage in. I would not reveal my tax returns either if I knew they would be lied about, misreported, misrepresented.

Wouldn't the tax returns speak for themselves? I mean, how do you misrepresent a tax form?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Unlike every other president, Trump has actually been keeping his campaign promises and he has done such good things for this country, more than Bush or Obummer did.

I see better now your attraction to someone like Trump.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I'm still waiting on that infrastructure plan...

...and his Obamacare replacement...

...and the swamp to be drained....

...and Mexico's checks for the wall they're supposed to pay for...

...and the wall itself...

 

[TLK Valentine]

That is false. He was the darling of the media, the political establishment and the entertainment industry.

He was their source of entertainment. Like any other cartoon character, people tuned in to see what wacky antics he'd get into that week...

They invited him to their parties and they always wanted to be at his parties.

Just as they did to Joshua Norton.

The very politicians that are smearing him today, were for years, knocking at Trump's door for campaign donations. They had nothing but praise for Trump before he ran for president.

He was a source of money and amusement... not alwaus in that order. Just because he expects people to bow at his feet now doesn't mean they did so in the past.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I see better now your attraction to someone like Trump.

I see what mammon has to offer.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I think it is truly a shame that a man like him now represents the Religious Right and the rest of the Republican Party. I don't think the Republican Party can ever again honestly claim to be the political party of Christian morality and traditional family values. The devout Religious Right and the rest of the Republican Party spent the entire eight years of Bill Clinton's administration outraged and condemning him for being an adulterer and a womanizer. And here these conservatives are now supporting a man who could rival Bill Clinton in adulterous philandering and in other immoral behavior. Isn't it ironic that Bill Clinton's continuous sexual deviant behavior toward women was never once called "locker room banter" or "macho talk" by any of the conservatives who now support and defend Donald Trump?

Sadly, this sudden change of heart concerning the moral character of the President isn't limited to the layman within the Republican Party. It also affected the most prominent Evangelical leaders as well.

For example...

James Dobson:

James Dobson condemning Bill Clinton in 1998: "Character does matter. You can't run a family, let alone a country without it. How foolish to believe that a person who lacks honesty and moral integrity is qualified to lead a nation and the world."

Source: What James Dobson Said in 1998 About Moral Character and the Presidency

James Dobson endorsing Trump in 2016: "I’m not under any illusions that he is an outstanding moral example. It’s a cliché but true: We are electing a commander-in-chief, not a theologian-in-chief.”

Source: I’m an evangelical. The religious right leaders who support Trump don’t speak for me.

Franklin Graham:

Franklin Graham condemning Bill Clinton in 1998: "Bill Clinton's months-long extramarital sexual behavior in the Oval Office now concerns him and the rest of the world, not just his immediate family. If he will lie to or mislead his wife and daughter, those with whom he is most intimate, what will prevent him from doing the same to the American public?"

Source: What Franklin Graham Said About the “Private Sins” of Bill Clinton in 1998

Franklin Graham defending Donald Trump in 2018: “I think some of these things — that’s for him and his wife to deal with. I think when the country went after President Clinton, the Republicans, that was a great mistake that should never have happened. And I think the same with Stormy Daniels and so forth is nobody’s business. And we’ve got other business at hand that we need to deal with.”

Source: Evangelist Franklin Graham Says Donald Trump's Alleged Affair Is 'Nobody's Business'

Pat Robertson:

Pat Robertson Calls for Clinton's Impeachment

Standing by Donald Trump, Pat Robertson calls lewd video ‘macho talk’

Jerry Farwell, Jr.

Watch: Jerry Falwell Jr. goes after Clinton at Republican National Convention

Evangelical Jerry Falwell Jr. defends Trump: Jesus “never told Caesar how to run Rome”

I think it's very telling what you can get these days for a mere thirty pieces of silver.

 

[wing2000]

QFT

I've said for a long time that one of Trump's greatest business skills has been to (apparently) insulate himself from his business disasters.

....and projecting an image of success.

 

[wing2000]

They did increase profits and that's a good thing. And any pollution we have in the US is far, far lower than anywhere else in the world and many companies have policies to fight pollution.

Seriously? You would rely on the good will of companies to fight pollution?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Seriously? You would rely on the good will of companies to fight pollution?

The shepherd always watches over the sheep... just try not to think about why...

 

[iluvatar5150]

He was their source of entertainment. Like any other cartoon character, people tuned in to see what wacky antics he'd get into that week...

Just as they did to Joshua Norton.

He was a source of money and amusement... not alwaus in that order. Just because he expects people to bow at his feet now doesn't mean they did so in the past.

This notion that he was the darling of the media and beloved by all is so divorced from reality it boggles the mind.

Newsflash: It's a lot easier to be a horrible person and still have friends when you keep most of your horribleness to yourself (or at least don't publicize it) and maintain an appearance of being mostly harmless. For most of the 2000's prior to the campaign, Trump's main public persona was as a game show host made in the image of a cartoonish corporate raider. He was playing a part. Granted, it may not have been much of a stretch, but it was still showmanship and we all knew it. And there was some actual real estate development still going on in the background.

That level of fame is going to win you friends. But when you start trying to get yourself taken more seriously by trotting out a bunch of dumb policy ideas and terrible rhetoric, people are going to disavow you. And that's what happened to Trump.

 

[TLK Valentine]

This notion that he was the darling of the media and beloved by all is so divorced from reality it boggles the mind.

Newsflash: It's a lot easier to be a horrible person and still have friends when you keep most of your horribleness to yourself (or at least don't publicize it) and maintain an appearance of being mostly harmless. For most of the 2000's prior to the campaign, Trump's main public persona was as a game show host made in the image of a cartoonish corporate raider. He was playing a part. Granted, it may not have been much of a stretch, but it was still showmanship and we all knew it. And there was some actual real estate development still going on in the background.

That level of fame is going to win you friends. But when you start trying to get yourself taken more seriously by trotting out a bunch of dumb policy ideas and terrible rhetoric, people are going to disavow you. And that's what happened to Trump.

Well the thing was, most people assumed that Donald was merely playing a part... in essence, a self-parody.

Look at William Shatner or Ryan Reynolds these days... they basically play over the top versions of themselves. Lots of people assumed Donald was doing the same thing...

...then he demanded to be taken seriously... and people did. Then he demanded to be put in charge... and too many people thought that was a good idea.

Now he demands your unquestioning loyalty and obedience...

 

[bhsmte]

This notion that he was the darling of the media and beloved by all is so divorced from reality it boggles the mind.

Newsflash: It's a lot easier to be a horrible person and still have friends when you keep most of your horribleness to yourself (or at least don't publicize it) and maintain an appearance of being mostly harmless. For most of the 2000's prior to the campaign, Trump's main public persona was as a game show host made in the image of a cartoonish corporate raider. He was playing a part. Granted, it may not have been much of a stretch, but it was still showmanship and we all knew it. And there was some actual real estate development still going on in the background.

That level of fame is going to win you friends. But when you start trying to get yourself taken more seriously by trotting out a bunch of dumb policy ideas and terrible rhetoric, people are going to disavow you. And that's what happened to Trump.

Well, the media is who provided trump the platform to get elected and get his message out, without spending money. CNN specifically, covered him extensively, when he first announced he would run and many forget, Fox was actually providing mostly anti trump coverage, until it became apparant, he would win the nomination.

The other factor is simply, who he was running against and the opportunity this opened up, for someone who was non pc, and not part of the established, elitist politicians, who the public grew weary of and trump beat to win the nomination, then the presidency.

 

[hislegacy]

The big revelation isn’t that he didn’t pay taxes, it is that he was such a horrible failure.

What I find interesting is that prior to running for office, Trump wast touted as a great businessman, received awards for racial diversity and work he did with minorities and was a friend to the very same people who are saying the exact opposite of him now.

And people actually believe it.

 

[iluvatar5150]

What I find interesting is that prior to running for office, Trump wast touted as a great businessman,

In recent years, it's been almost exclusively TrumpFans who've been touting his business record. The rest of us have been trying to point out how much of a conman he is.

received awards for racial diversity and work he did with minorities

No, that wasn't why he got that award.

Trump won 1986 award, but not for helping black youths
No, Donald Trump Did Not Win A Medal From The NAACP

And people actually believe it.

It is amazing what some people will believe.

 

[bhsmte]

What I find interesting is that prior to running for office, Trump wast touted as a great businessman, received awards for racial diversity and work he did with minorities and was a friend to the very same people who are saying the exact opposite of him now.

And people actually believe it.

People believe all sorts of stuff about people.

Whether they are true or not, is another matter.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

What I find interesting is that prior to running for office, Trump wast touted as a great businessman, received awards for racial diversity and work he did with minorities and was a friend to the very same people who are saying the exact opposite of him now.

And people actually believe it.

None of these photo-ops negate his questionable behavior toward minorities over the years, including when he and his father were sued by the government for housing discrimination against black people.

Trump's Long History of Racism

The racist comments of Donald Trump

Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2018

 

[GoldenBoy89]

What I find interesting is that prior to running for office, Trump wast touted as a great businessman, received awards for racial diversity and work he did with minorities and was a friend to the very same people who are saying the exact opposite of him now.

And people actually believe it.

I'm surprised you didn't go with Kanye as a more relevant ambassador for the black community.

 

[Justified112]

Seriously? You would rely on the good will of companies to fight pollution?

Lot's of companies have taken proactive measures to combat pollution.

 

[Justified112]

He was a source of money and amusement... not alwaus in that order. Just because he expects people to bow at his feet now doesn't mean they did so in the past.

You obviously don't know what you're talking about. He was in pretty good with everyone that hates him now up in DC and in Hollywood.

 

[Justified112]

Wouldn't the tax returns speak for themselves? I mean, how do you misrepresent a tax form?

They are fighting with all their might to misrepresent and reinterpret the Mueller report because they can't put on their big boy pants and accept that their attempt to frame Trump for crimes he didn't commit just didn't pan out they were hoping it would.