So the bible says to test all things, does this include the bible?

[GodLovesCats]

Since we know the Bible is the absolute truth, there's no reason to test it. Rather, other things should be tested against it.

This is not correct. Many people, including Christians who were raised in churches, fail to understand whu Jesus said what he did and what verses mean. All over this forum members have questions related to bad Hebrew and Greek translations. If you don't test the Bible you don't really know how to apply every page.

 

[PanDeVida]

So the bible says to test all things, does this include the bible?

If so, by which standard would you test it?

If not, what does the all things relate to?

How do you apply this?

"Does it include the Bible"?

The Protestant Reformers Tested the Bible and founded that it was in err, thus the reason why they took out 7 books. Truly I did not know that the Holy Spirit who guided the early Catholic Church Fathers to compile the Bible with the 7 Books errored.

Do you believe that The Holy Spirit Errored? Not ME! I prefer the Bible with the 73 Books how the Holy Spirit Guided the Early Church Fathers to Compile It. Amen

Pan De Vida

 

[Gregory Thompson]

"Does it include the Bible"?

The Protestant Reformers Tested the Bible and founded that it was in err, thus the reason why they took out 7 books. Truly I did not know that the Holy Spirit who guided the early Catholic Church Fathers to compile the Bible with the 7 Books errored.

Do you believe that The Holy Spirit Errored? Not ME! I prefer the Bible with the 73 Books how the Holy Spirit Guided the Early Church Fathers to Compile It. Amen

Pan De Vida

Doesn't the Ethopian Orthodox Canon have more books than you? #jussayin

 

[PanDeVida]

Doesn't the Ethopian Orthodox Canon have more books than you? #jussayin

Micheal, perhaps there is a bible with a thousand books in It, your argument is not with me, but with the Holy Spirit and with His 73 Books of His Bible compiled for us. #Jusssayin

Pan De Vida

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Micheal, perhaps there is a bible with a thousand books in It, your argument is not with me, but with the Holy Spirit and with His 73 Books of His Bible compiled for us. #Jusssayin

Pan De Vida

 

[Noxot]

So the bible says to test all things, does this include the bible?

If so, by which standard would you test it?

If not, what does the all things relate to?

How do you apply this?

you got to have something compatible with God, reject what is not with God, and grow in God.

John 4:21-24 (YLT)
4:21 Jesus saith to her, `Woman, believe me, that there doth come an hour, when neither in this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, shall ye worship the Father;

4:22 ye worship what ye have not known; we worship what we have known, because the salvation is of the Jews;

4:23 but, there cometh an hour, and it now is, when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father also doth seek such to worship him;

4:24 God is a Spirit, and those worshipping Him, in spirit and truth it doth behove to worship.'

 

[childeye 2]

So the bible says to test all things, does this include the bible?

If so, by which standard would you test it?

If not, what does the all things relate to?

How do you apply this?

Exactly where does the bible say to test all things?

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Exactly where does the bible say to test all things?

1st Thessalonians in Chapter 5

 

[Halbhh]

Yes. If even the Holy Spirit we must test, what more the Bible? The Bible actually states the Holy Spirit should be a our main source of God's Words and this means the Bible is only supplementary, not our main source of revelations/teachings.

The Bible only points to the source and it is the source we mostly learn.



Mercy.



All things means everything, even reality we see, we must scrutinize.

Jesus is God's Word incarnate. He told us His words we have recorded in the gospels will endure forever, even after this Earth and this Universe have passed away and been replaced. These words will not be replaced or superseded, we know from Him.

 

[timewerx]

Jesus is God's Word incarnate. He told us His words we have recorded in the gospels will endure forever, even after this Earth and this Universe have passed away and been replaced. These words will not be replaced or superseded, we know from Him.

Of course, the Words that brough the Universe into existence will remain true... It is what holds our reality together.

However, any information that gets down to us, in physical form or any form we can interact with can degrade, corrupted, or even hijacked. This is why we must test everything.

God's words will not just magically come to our knowledge in pure form, uncorrupted. Our plenty denominations, many Christians having conflicting / contradictory interpretations of scriptures against each other is proof of this. Hence, we must test everything, no exceptions.

Seeking the Truth is not for the lazy nor the worldly.

 

[Halbhh]

Of course, the Words that brough the Universe into existence will remain true... It is what holds our reality together.

However, any information that gets down to us, in physical form or any form we can interact with can degrade, corrupted, or even hijacked. This is why we must test everything.

God's words will not just magically come to our knowledge in pure form, uncorrupted. Our plenty denominations, many Christians having conflicting / contradictory interpretations of scriptures against each other is proof of this. Hence, we must test everything, no exceptions.

Seeking the Truth is not for the lazy nor the worldly.

Ok, hard to know what all you mean, but do you wonder whether Jesus actually did say "love one another" or "forgive your brother from your heart" or "love your enemy" and other such direct instructions-- is that something you wonder about? To me, it's now self-evident they are the best of all possible ways to live, bar none, but it is the case I found out a lot of impossible seeming things were real by first hand experience (see post #17 for the beginning of that, and ask if you want more of what happened later).

 

[timewerx]

Ok, hard to know what all you mean, but do you wonder whether Jesus actually did say "love one another" or "forgive your brother from your heart" or "love your enemy" and other such direct instructions-- is that something you wonder about? To me, it's now self-evident they are the best of all possible ways to live, bar none, but it is the case I found out a lot of impossible seeming things were real by first hand experience (see post #17 for the beginning of that, and ask if you want more of what happened later).

I meant the things we hear being preached in churches for example. The lyrics we hear from Christian music, even divine revelations through visions, dreams, prophecy, etc. We must test.

And yes, including the teachings from the Bible, we must test. No exceptions.

If we are to test the Holy Spirit who is of higher source of knowledge concerning the Truth, then we should test the scriptures as well.

 

[Natsumi Lam]

Yes. If even the Holy Spirit we must test, what more the Bible? The Bible actually states the Holy Spirit should be a our main source of God's Words and this means the Bible is only supplementary, not our main source of revelations/teachings.

The Bible only points to the source and it is the source we mostly learn.



Mercy.



All things means everything, even reality we see, we must scrutinize.

Isnt the Word God breathed? Wouldnt the breath be the Holy Spirit that brings life to the Word?

 

[timewerx]

Isnt the Word God breathed? Wouldnt the breath be the Holy Spirit that brings life to the Word?

Read the Bible closer.

The Word was God - John 1:1. Therefore, it's always been alive.

The Bible is only a glimpse of the Word. A physical collection of pages and even books would not be able to contain it - John 21:25.

This is why the Bible has no power by itself. It is only an incoherent glimpse of the Word at best. A compass that points to the source. But you still have to get to the source to know the Truth - John 16:13.

 

[Shempster]

So the bible says to test all things, does this include the bible?

If so, by which standard would you test it?

If not, what does the all things relate to?

How do you apply this?

The bible is included in the phrase "all things".
I test it by the words and teachings of Jesus. He said that he only said and did the things that the Father does. He was basically saying that he is the exact representation of the Father.
So, anything that does not line up with the words, actions and teaching of Jesus needs to be understood on a much deeper level.

 

[Natsumi Lam]

Read the Bible closer.

The Word was God - John 1:1. Therefore, it's always been alive.

The Bible is only a glimpse of the Word. A physical collection of pages and even books would not be able to contain it - John 21:25.

This is why the Bible has no power by itself. It is only an incoherent glimpse of the Word at best. A compass that points to the source. But you still have to get to the source to know the Truth - John 16:13.

So you say the Bible has no power in itself...and that it is incoherent...is that from the Holy Spirit or your opinion?

 

[timewerx]

So you say the Bible has no power in itself...and that it is incoherent...is that from the Holy Spirit or your opinion?

What I meant by incoherent is that the writings in the Bible are very easy to misinterpret.

The great number of divisions (denominations) among Christians is proof of this.

In addition, the devil himself can fake miracles and success of exorcisms. The devil deservedly called "The father of lies" wouldn't earn the title if he can only deceive a few. The father of lies is able to deserve the majority, even those genuinely seeking God.

That I learned from experience and from the Holy Spirit.

Anyone who loves the world or anything in it is communion with the spirit of the antiChrist, instead of the Holy Spirit. The spirit of the antiChrist can easily pretend to be the Holy Spirit in order to deceive many.