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1. AD 70 = Temple destroyed = times of the Gentiles starts
2. Rapture occurs (hopefully today) = 7 year Tribulation Period starts
3. Next 3½ years = Jerusalem under a false peace
4. Peace treaty is broken, Great Tribulation starts
5. 7 years after the Rapture, Armageddon commences, Jesus returns and ends Armageddon and times of the Gentiles
Purely speculation of the pre-tribulation rapture lies.
Me being a Preterist/Amill, I will have to agree with ya on this one.
 
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Over 1,000,000 Jews were slaughtered during Jerusalem's siege and after its fall, and 97,000 were dragged into Egypt and Italy.

It was God's judgment without parallel in the world's history. Jerusalem was occupied by Gentiles at that time, and has been trodden on by strangers to this day. This will stay so until the Gentiles times have been fulfilled, until the elect's number from humanity has been gained, until time's end.

God's Word must stand true.

☆ Jerusalem's destruction by the Gentiles is a type of the attempted destruction of God's Church by the Antichrist. The Antichrist has been revealed. He has now been set forth. The Church has been purged of his errors. ☆
 
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Over 1,000,000 Jews were slaughtered during Jerusalem's siege and after its fall, and 97,000 were dragged into Egypt and Italy.
It was God's judgment without parallel in the world's history. Jerusalem was occupied by Gentiles at that time, and has been trodden on by strangers to this day. This will stay so until the Gentiles times have been fulfilled, until the elect's number from humanity has been gained, until time's end.
God's Word must stand true.
☆ Jerusalem's destruction by the Gentiles is a type of the attempted destruction of God's Church by the Antichrist. The Antichrist has been revealed. He has now been set forth. The Church has been purged of his errors. ☆
Some have equated it to the great holocaust of the Jews during world war 2, but that happened in different Nazi occupied countries over a period of years, whereas 70 ad was just 1 city and fell in less than 6 months.

There were also a multitude of Jews scattered all over Israel, mainly rebel Zealots, that were also slaughtered during the Jewish wars. This is the best vid I have seen on the 1st Jewish wars and fulfilling the Olivet Discourse........

Dan 8:23
“In the latter part of their reign, when rebels have become completely wicked, a fierce-looking king, a master of intrigue, will arise.


https://www.preteristarchive.com/JewishWars/timeline_military.html
"..probably the greatest single slaughter in ancient history."

ROMAN SIEGE AND SACK OF JERUSALEM

Jeremiah 19
:
2 “And go out to the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, which is by the entry of the Potsherd Gate; and proclaim there the words that I will tell you,
6 “therefore behold, the days are coming,” says the LORD, “that this place shall no more be called Tophet or the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, but the Valley of Slaughter.

Isa 30:25

There will be on every high mountain And on every high hill
Rivers and streams of waters,
In the day of the great slaughter, when the towers fall.

James 5:
5 ye luxuriate upon the land and ye squander, ye nourish the hearts of ye, in Day of-Slaughter
8 be ye patient! also stand-fast the hearts of ye, that the Parousia <3952> of the Lord has-neared<1448>

Revelation 18:
9 And shall be lamenting<2799> over Her and shall be grieving/smiting selves<2875> over Her the kings of the earth,
those with Her committing whoredom and indulging
whenever they may be beholding<991> the smoke of Her firing<4451>.
24 and in Her, blood of prophets and of saints was found, and of all the ones having been slaughtered<4969> (5772) upon the land.

Revelation 19
17 And I saw one Messenger standing in the sun, and he cries-out in great voice, saying to all the birds, the ones flying in mid-heaven, "hither! be ye being gathered<4863>! into the Supper<1173> of the Great God. 18 That ye may be eating fleshes of kings......[Zeph 1:17/Ezekiel 39:19]
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Note the Valley of Hinnon

Jeremiah 19:
6 “therefore behold, the days are coming,” says the LORD, “that this place shall no more be called Tophet or the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, but the Valley of Slaughter.

Matthew 24 Mount of Olives and Titus's 10th Legion on Mt Olives 70ad

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I stand by my view of the Scriptures and presented my evidence.

Steve....if you present a Scripture, it should be able to answer the questions about the stones I posted with Scripture. Obviously, you did not, so you can't claim it as evidence. In fact, your youtube videos about 70AD are not a piece of biblical evidence. God's Word is. Keep that in mind.
 
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Yes, when you need to compare Scripture with Scripture concerning "Gentiles."
Just because those passages contain the word "Gentiles" doesn't make them parallel passages.
 
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It is completely absurd, something that you don't read there, but sadly, they are "reading into" the text based on the book of Josephus and the false prophets of today!
Yes.....we are using the book of Josephus for information - but he chronicled what happened for us in the first century (as did the early church). To dismiss historical events is to disregard biblical context.
 
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Just because those passages contain the word "Gentiles" doesn't make them parallel passages.

Says who? You or God? Humm?

As I explained earlier on exactly who did God see Gentiles in these two passages and Luke 21:24? That is why you do need to compare Scripture with Scripture.

2 Timothy 2:15 KJV
[15] Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

2 Timothy 3:16-17 KJV
[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
[17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Just because you don't see Gentiles this way does not mean God isn't.
 
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Yes.....we are using the book of Josephus for information - but he chronicled what happened for us in the first century (as did the early church). To dismiss historical events is to disregard biblical context.

LOL. Josephus was NOT God's prophet at all. He was not even part of God's Kingdom as a Christian. He is not to be trusted to interpret bible prophecy. Not even remotely unbiased and wasn't even there in 70 A.D. Amazing in this day and age who we will trust even when it contradicts God's word, and even more amazingly, who we won't trust. As saith the preacher, there is nothing new under the sun.

No man's word can be trusted except it is a witness directly "from" the Holy Scriptures, which are the authoritative words of the living God. That is the word that can be trusted. That is the word of the two witnesses. That is the testimony of the saints, not of reprobates like Josephus or other false witnesses. Do we want to trust what the "many" say, or the testimony of the Scriptures concerning the destruction of Jerusalem and the Holy Temple. When God says flee to the mountains, are we to suppose that God is telling the saints that their security is found among the physical rocks, or in His only Mountains which are Spiritual. It's always about the same thing. Do we understand God's word Spiritually as He wrote it, or as a historical narrative as the Jews understood it erroneously and missed the Kingdom, deliverance of the captivity, and their Messiah? Why didn't the Jews understand the mystery that was the Kingdom of God?

Mark 4:11
  • "And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:"
Luke 17:20-21
  • "And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
  • "Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you."
When people have Christ within them, they have in Christ become members of the kingdom of God, but not as historians, theologians or Israel understood the Kingdom as earthly, but as God always intended. Likewise, the Temple, rebuilding, Jerusalem and the stones being cast down. It's a matter of interpretive methodology.
 
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John 10:33
Answered Him, the Judeans saying, "About a good work not we are stoning Thee, but about blasphemy, and that Thou, being a Man, are making thyself a god".
[Romans 2:23/Reve 16:11,21]

Romans 2:
23
Who in Law are boasting through the transgression of the Law, the God thou are dishonoring
24 'For the name of the God is being blasphemed in the nations because of ye,' according as it has been written.'
[Psalm 74:10]

THE SEVEN BOWLS/VIALS IN REVELATION

Revelation 16

8 And the fourth Messenger pours out His Bowl upon the sun and was given Him to scorch<2739> the men in fire.
9 And the men are scorched greatly and they blaspheme<987> the Name of the God the One having the authority upon these blows
and not they repent/reform<3340> to give glory to Him.
 
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Christ is talking about His PEOPLE as the stones! They are the congregation of God that represents Christ's temple of the body! Did you see a physical temple rebuilding in three days, didn't you? What is this "building" that has been fallen and being rebuilt? With Physical stones?
Are you talking about replacement theology? or am I wrong?
 
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Are you talking about replacement theology? or am I wrong?

Wrong as usual.

By the way, the replacement theology is a false doctrine or red herrings for anyone who makes such a claim.
 
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Wrong as usual.
Okie doke.

So what's the deal about the Temple?

I mean, I just joined this thread and all, so I need to catch up.

Do you mind telling me what the significance is about the Temple not being destroyed in AD 70 should have on us?
 
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20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. (Luke 21:20–21 NKJV)

= part of the context of Luke 21:24
 
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Okie doke.

So what's the deal about the Temple?

I mean, I just joined this thread and all, so I need to catch up.

Do you mind telling me what the significance is about the Temple not being destroyed in AD 70 should have on us?

Did you ever read to what I just told you to do in #17 earlier today? Take your time and have fun reading from the beginning of this thread, because I am not going to explain it again here.
 
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20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. (Luke 21:20–21 NKJV)

= part of the context of Luke 21:24

Whose Jerusalem is this? What are the armies? What Judea did Christ talked about here, really!?
 
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